President Biden, critics corner

[billvon 2,380]

54 minutes ago, richravizza said:

Bill, please watch the M.M. film, the narrator and I have a lot in common.

I notice a common theme among some people here.  They can't explain their thinking, so they find a video and say "watch this whole thing."

If you can't summarize your opinion, I'm not going to watch an hour and forty minute video to make up for that inability.  Sorry.

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Let's not parse 2019 data.  Not relevant 

This is another common theme here - discarding any data that does not support your belief.

"The Shockley-Quessier limit means solar is a pipe dream!"  (this was an actual claim here)

"The SC limit is not an issue in solar.  First off, that states that single crystal solar can never be more than 33% efficient.  It's 22% now - which means it can get better by at least 50%.  And it's STILL economical - and the price is STILL coming down.  Price is not really affected by the SC limit.  And it doesn't apply to multilayer anyway, like perovskite plus silicon.  That can get you to 69% efficiency, which means practically you could double today's efficiencies."

"None of that is relevant."

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Your last statement is quite an insult, on so many levels. shameless ignorant assumptions.I'm going to brush that off, like a grain of salt. Pretend you never wrote it. You could edit it, mumms the word.

Once again  - if you use "woman" as an insult against a guy (or "effeminate" or "feminine" etc) it means you think comparing someone to a woman denigrates them.  Even if you have a sister or a friend who is a woman.  It's actually pretty common in some circles, just as some people think "that's mighty white of you" is a compliment.

Now, if you just posted without thinking, or you asked Joe that by mistake, no worries.  You could apologize for your poor choice of words and/or misunderstanding and we could move on.

But I am done letting sexism, racism etc just slide to "get along."  I've done enough of that throughout my life and I'm not doing it any more.  It may cost me some friends, but that's a price I am willing to pay.

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1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

His last statement is that if you hold women in such low regard that you call someone woman like as an insult, that means you probably hold them in low regard.

I don’t really see that as an insult, unless a. It’s true, and b. His opinion matters. 
Wendy P. 

 Calling a person a woman, is not an insult. 

Why would you think that ?

Why would you think I did,I didn't.

What is this, a woke purity test, it's Orwellian culty 

Edited April 29, 2021 by richravizza

[billvon 2,380]

50 minutes ago, richravizza said:

 Calling a person a woman, is not an insult. 

Why would you think that ?

Because you asked a guy named WolfRiverJoe if he was a woman, suggesting that his opinions were like those of a drunk naive liberal woman - right after you falsely ascribed a claim to him you consider absurd (i.e. "you think Trump is a mole for the Kremlin.")  There is no way you are going to be able to spin that into "no, I meant that as a compliment, that his comments made sense!"

You meant it as a clever slam and you got caught out.  Own it.

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What is this, a woke purity test, it's Orwellian culty 

Uh - that doesn't make much sense.  Standing up for someone else does not make one "woke" - and I'm not "woke" anyway.  I will never know what it's like to be a woman, or a trans person, or black.  I am not going to get it.  The best I can do is stand up for those people when others denigrate them.

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NOW YOUR GOING TO MISS QUOTE ME AND GIVE ME WARNINGS. RICH...

WHAT 2019 DATA did you think I was talking about, other than yours?

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-miserable-cities-in-the-united-states-based-on-data-2019-9

It is irrelevant unless you got a time machine like the President.

Then you go there, somewhere, out in the universe on them Million dollar a square inch, solar savior panels. I'm out.

2 hours ago, billvon said:

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Let's not parse 2019 data.  Not relevant 

This is another common theme here - discarding any data that does not support your belief.

"The Shockley-Quessier limit means solar is a pipe dream!"  (this was an actual claim here)

"The SC limit is not an issue in solar.  First off, that states that single crystal solar can never be more than 33% efficient.  It's 22% now - which means it can get better by at least 50%.  And it's STILL economical - and the price is STILL coming down.  Price is not really affected by the SC limit.  And it doesn't apply to multilayer anyway, like perovskite plus silicon.  That can get you to 69% efficiency, which means practically you could double today's efficiencies."

"None of that is relevant."

 I'm sorry you don't have a spare hour. Is it that, or you just won't watch it?

Edited April 29, 2021 by richravizza

[jakee 1,254]

6 hours ago, richravizza said:

I don't mind you having a laugh at me. It's what happens when a debate goes off the rails.
 I gave you Moore's Film,The loss of the classics in Academia, and a porn show minus the dildo on prime time, and you get a laugh.

Again, a classic example of the intellectual bankruptcy of modern conservatism. "I have Michael Moore on my side! How can you not believe me!"

 

That is hilarious.

[richravizza 25]

3 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Ya that's it. When you can't make a coherent argument just try baffling with bullshit. Cofefe

An insult, your point taken.

Do you even know who Cornel West is?

The significance of such a moment, when the ideological left and right agree.

[jakee 1,254]

3 hours ago, richravizza said:

Once their not taught anymore, We the woke won't have a need to ponder.

Funny, For as long as I can remember the american right wing has had nothing to say about any branch of the liberal arts in any unversity or college except that it's all run and taught by tenured ivory tower elitists, completely disconnected from normal people, who've never worked a real day in their lives and who do nothing but brainwash the nation's youth into their liberal pinko new world order great society fantasy world under the guise of their classroom authority.

Now one black university decides to close its classics department and suddenly it's a terrible loss to society. I wonder what could be going on there.

[jakee 1,254]

2 hours ago, richravizza said:

 Calling a person a woman, is not an insult. 

Calling someone a woman because their argument is so bad they sound like a woman is an insult.

And remember, genius, not a few hours ago you yourself described it as retaliation for Joe suggesting you sounded like you were drunk. 

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What is this, a woke purity test, it's Orwellian culty 

No, it's the plain and obvious reading of what you said using the english language. Now if you want to pretend you were using newspeak and actually meant something completely different you're welcome to do that, but no-one else is following you down that Orwellian rabbit hole.

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4 minutes ago, jakee said:

Again, a classic example of the intellectual bankruptcy of modern conservatism. "I have Michael Moore on my side! How can you not believe me!"

 

That is hilarious.

There's a big picture hilarity, ideologically speaking. Brent would get it. 

[jakee 1,254]

1 hour ago, richravizza said:

There's a big picture hilarity, ideologically speaking. Brent would get it. 

I’m quite sure he gets it. I’m also sure he’ll never admit it, and will pretend he agrees with you instead.

[olofscience 420]

5 hours ago, richravizza said:

Once their not taught anymore, We the woke won't have a need to ponder.

 Go back to the Right Angle, after you actually watch it, comprehend it, I'll bet.

We can Agree.

Yeah, just as I expected. You got nothing. Do you even know what they are?

[rifleman 61]

12 hours ago, brenthutch said:

This guy isn’t even literate 

 

I just love the fact that your source for that is the Sun. A tabloid rag that made its name by giving knuckle dragging morons a daily dose of boobies and whose working motto of  "nudes fit to print, news printed to fit" has led to it being banned from sale in Liverpool and it's sports 'reporters' being banned from the Liverpool FC stadium. When The Sun finally closes the level of journalism within the UK will actually go up by several points. 

[kallend 1,621]

6 hours ago, richravizza said:

 Calling a person a woman, is not an insult. 

Why would you think that ?

Why would you think I did,I didn't.

What is this, a woke purity test, it's Orwellian culty 

I suggest you stop digging.  The hole just gets deeper.

[brenthutch 383]

2 hours ago, rifleman said:

I just love the fact that your source for that is the Sun. A tabloid rag that made its name by giving knuckle dragging morons a daily dose of boobies and whose working motto of  "nudes fit to print, news printed to fit" has led to it being banned from sale in Liverpool and it's sports 'reporters' being banned from the Liverpool FC stadium. When The Sun finally closes the level of journalism within the UK will actually go up by several points. 

Are you saying that this quote is not accurate?  

[sfzombie13 307]

58 minutes ago, kallend said:

I suggest you stop digging.  The hole just gets deeper.

but op can't give up when a paycheck (or whatever) is on the line.  looks to me like at least two folks working that account, based solely on the differences in language and grammar.  some have no spaces, some have them.  words and language is different as well.  i wonder what the objective is and who is working the account?

[airdvr 197]

19 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

True, a male president saying he can grab women by the pussy is a show of strength, while a black female singing about a wet ass pussy is the end of the American empire.

Why are you so scared of women?

I wasn't familiar with the WAP song...let's review the lyrics.

I said, certified freak
Seven days a week
Wet-ass pussy
Make that pull-out game weak, woo (ah)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, you fucking with some wet-ass pussy
Bring a bucket and a mop for this wet-ass pussy
Give me everything you got for this wet-ass pussy
Beat it up, nigga, catch a charge
Extra large and extra hard
Put this pussy right in your face
Swipe your nose like a credit card
Hop on top, I wanna ride
I do a kegel while it's inside
Spit in my mouth, look in my eyes
This pussy is wet, come take a dive
Tie me up like I'm surprised
Let's role play, I'll wear a disguise
I want you to park that big Mack truck
Right in this little garage
Make it cream, make me scream
Out in public, make a scene
I don't cook, I don't clean
But let me tell you how I got this ring (ayy, ayy)
Gobble me, swallow me, drip down the side of me (yeah)
Quick, jump out 'fore you let it get inside of me (yeah)
I tell him where to put it, never tell him where I'm 'bout to be
I'll run down on him 'fore I have a nigga running me (pow, pow)
Talk your shit, bite your lip (yeah)
Ask for a car while you ride that dick (while you ride that dick)
You really ain't never gotta fuck him for a thang (yeah)
He already made his mind up 'fore he came (ayy, ah)
Now get your boots and your coat (ah, ah, ah)
For this wet-ass pussy
He bought a phone just for pictures
Of this wet-ass pussy (click, click, click)
Pay my tuition just to kiss me
On this wet-ass pussy (mwah, mwah, mwah)
Now make it rain if you wanna
See some wet-ass pussy (yeah, yeah)
Look, I need a hard hitter, I need a deep stroker
I need a Henny drinker, I need a weed smoker
Not a garden snake, I need a king cobra
With a hook in it, hope it lean over
He got some money, then that's where I'm headed
Pussy A1, just like his credit
He got a beard, well, I'm tryna wet it
I let him taste it, now he diabetic
I don't wanna spit, I wanna gulp
I wanna gag, I wanna choke
I want you to touch that lil' dangly thing
That swing in the back of my throat
My head game is fire, punani Dasani
It's going in dry and it's coming out soggy
I ride on that thang like the cops is behind me (yeah, ah)
I spit on his mic and now he tryna sign me, woo
Your honor, I'm a freak bitch, handcuffs, leashes
Switch my wig, make him feel like he cheating
Put him on his knees, give him something to believe in
Never lost a fight, but I'm looking for a beating (ah)
In the food chain, I'm the one that eat ya
If he ate my ass, he's a bottom feeder
Big D stand for big demeanor
I could make you bust before I ever meet ya
If it don't hang, then he can't bang
You can't hurt my feelings, but I like pain
If he fuck me and ask, "Whose is it?"
When I ride the dick, I'ma spell my name
Ah (whores in this house)
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, you fucking with some wet-ass pussy
Bring a bucket and a mop for this wet-ass pussy
Give me everything you got for this wet-ass pussy
Now from the top, make it drop
That's some wet-ass pussy
Now get a bucket and a mop
That's some wet-ass pussy
I'm talking WAP, WAP, WAP
That's some wet-ass pussy
Macaroni in a pot
That's some wet-ass pussy, huh
(There's some whores in this house)
(There's some whores in this house)

Pre-teen girls listen to this and are influenced by the message.  I have no horse in this race.  My daughter is old enough to make her own decisions.

[brenthutch 383]

10 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I wasn't familiar with the WAP song...let's review the lyrics.

I said, certified freak
Seven days a week
Wet-ass pussy
Make that pull-out game weak, woo (ah)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, you fucking with some wet-ass pussy
Bring a bucket and a mop for this wet-ass pussy
Give me everything you got for this wet-ass pussy
Beat it up, nigga, catch a charge
Extra large and extra hard
Put this pussy right in your face
Swipe your nose like a credit card
Hop on top, I wanna ride
I do a kegel while it's inside
Spit in my mouth, look in my eyes
This pussy is wet, come take a dive
Tie me up like I'm surprised
Let's role play, I'll wear a disguise
I want you to park that big Mack truck
Right in this little garage
Make it cream, make me scream
Out in public, make a scene
I don't cook, I don't clean
But let me tell you how I got this ring (ayy, ayy)
Gobble me, swallow me, drip down the side of me (yeah)
Quick, jump out 'fore you let it get inside of me (yeah)
I tell him where to put it, never tell him where I'm 'bout to be
I'll run down on him 'fore I have a nigga running me (pow, pow)
Talk your shit, bite your lip (yeah)
Ask for a car while you ride that dick (while you ride that dick)
You really ain't never gotta fuck him for a thang (yeah)
He already made his mind up 'fore he came (ayy, ah)
Now get your boots and your coat (ah, ah, ah)
For this wet-ass pussy
He bought a phone just for pictures
Of this wet-ass pussy (click, click, click)
Pay my tuition just to kiss me
On this wet-ass pussy (mwah, mwah, mwah)
Now make it rain if you wanna
See some wet-ass pussy (yeah, yeah)
Look, I need a hard hitter, I need a deep stroker
I need a Henny drinker, I need a weed smoker
Not a garden snake, I need a king cobra
With a hook in it, hope it lean over
He got some money, then that's where I'm headed
Pussy A1, just like his credit
He got a beard, well, I'm tryna wet it
I let him taste it, now he diabetic
I don't wanna spit, I wanna gulp
I wanna gag, I wanna choke
I want you to touch that lil' dangly thing
That swing in the back of my throat
My head game is fire, punani Dasani
It's going in dry and it's coming out soggy
I ride on that thang like the cops is behind me (yeah, ah)
I spit on his mic and now he tryna sign me, woo
Your honor, I'm a freak bitch, handcuffs, leashes
Switch my wig, make him feel like he cheating
Put him on his knees, give him something to believe in
Never lost a fight, but I'm looking for a beating (ah)
In the food chain, I'm the one that eat ya
If he ate my ass, he's a bottom feeder
Big D stand for big demeanor
I could make you bust before I ever meet ya
If it don't hang, then he can't bang
You can't hurt my feelings, but I like pain
If he fuck me and ask, "Whose is it?"
When I ride the dick, I'ma spell my name
Ah (whores in this house)
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, you fucking with some wet-ass pussy
Bring a bucket and a mop for this wet-ass pussy
Give me everything you got for this wet-ass pussy
Now from the top, make it drop
That's some wet-ass pussy
Now get a bucket and a mop
That's some wet-ass pussy
I'm talking WAP, WAP, WAP
That's some wet-ass pussy
Macaroni in a pot
That's some wet-ass pussy, huh
(There's some whores in this house)
(There's some whores in this house)

Pre-teen girls listen to this and are influenced by the message.  I have no horse in this race.  My daughter is old enough to make her own decisions.

And the left calls that “art”

[kallend 1,621]

48 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I wasn't familiar with the WAP song...let's review the lyrics.

 

Pre-teen girls listen to this and are influenced by the message.  I have no horse in this race.  My daughter is old enough to make her own decisions.

To think that people believed The Beatles to be a corrupting influence and burned their records (Alabama, S. Carolina, August 1966)

[kallend 1,621]

It's nice to have adults back in the White House.

[Phil1111 908]

Its discouraging to have the only active conservatives in SC completely unable to deal with serious issues. The President announced what i understand to be a $4 trillion spending plan. An effort to expand social programs.

Yet  obscure rap b.s. is the concern. Since William Buckley died it seems as if serious factual debate from the right died.

[lippy 765]

20 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Its discouraging to have the only active conservatives in SC completely unable to deal with serious issues. The President announced what i understand to be a $4 trillion spending plan. An effort to expand social programs.

Yet  obscure rap b.s. is the concern. Since William Buckley died it seems as if serious factual debate from the right died.

Come on Phil, you're just trying to distract us from Biden's plan to cap my beef limit to 4lb/year!

[gowlerk 1,903]

7 hours ago, richravizza said:

An insult, your point taken.

Do you even know who Cornel West is?

The significance of such a moment, when the ideological left and right agree.

And another pointless rambling post with no discernable meaning. Nice.

[brenthutch 383]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

To think that people believed The Beatles to be a corrupting influence and burned their records (Alabama, S. Carolina, August 1966)

Go point, “I want to hold your hand” is just like “wet ass pussy” how could I have missed the similarities.

[gowlerk 1,903]

2 hours ago, airdvr said:

I wasn't familiar with the WAP song...let's review the lyrics.

 

2 hours ago, airdvr said:

Pre-teen girls listen to this and are influenced by the message.  I have no horse in this race.  My daughter is old enough to make her own decisions.

Tutti frutti, oh rootie
A wop bop a loo bop a lop ba ba

Nah, it ain't the Beatles or even Elvis with those scandalous hips. And also not Jagger singing "Let's Spend the Night Together". It is so graphic that it is more than a little jarring to be a pop song. It is openly about the lust of a woman for what a man can do for her. Not even a shred of romance. It was designed to shock and it does for many. Pre-teen girls are also confronted with boys and girls with easy access to porn. People are still people and hormones are still hormones, but the things that children have to deal with from a very young age make me wonder about how unhealthy it all is.

[JoeWeber 2,294]

49 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Go point, “I want to hold your hand” is just like “wet ass pussy” how could I have missed the similarities.

It's in your nature.