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[brenthutch 383]

11 hours ago, billvon said:

Nope.  Most folks in America live in cities or suburbs where there is public transportation.   Per the 2017 American Housing Survey, only 21% of Americans live in rural areas distant from mass transit.

The out-of-touch elite who live out in the country on 20 acres thinks everyone lives like that - but reality, as usual, differs from your preconceptions.

“45% of Americans have no access to public transportation.”

https://www.apta.com/news-publications/public-transportation-facts/

And and many of those who do find it impractical, (grocery shopping, not close to place of employment, limited scheduling, young children, weather and safety concerns to name a few)

So wrong again.

 

 

[kallend 1,623]

I see that only citizens will be allowed to travel to the US from South Africa.

Good job viruses recognize US passports.

[airdvr 197]

11 hours ago, yoink said:

The fact you think access to gas is a human staple explains a lot about your world view.

 

It’s a luxury. An important one no doubt, and a keystone to modern civilization. But it’s not a staple. 

 

Splitting hairs.  This little example tells me that the left is more interested in providing the basics for the poor people than they are in helping them out of poverty.

[brenthutch 383]

1 minute ago, airdvr said:

Splitting hairs.  This little example tells me that the left is more interested in providing the basics for the poor people than they are in helping them out of poverty.

The left needs the poor to stay poor and dependent on government handouts in return for votes.  

[billvon 2,396]

2 hours ago, airdvr said:

Splitting hairs.  This little example tells me that the left is more interested in providing the basics for the poor people than they are in helping them out of poverty.

Personally I am interested in both.  Provide the basics to keep them alive and provide them education to get them out of poverty.  (Two things that Trump supporters are dead-set against.)

[airdvr 197]

36 minutes ago, billvon said:

Personally I am interested in both.  Provide the basics to keep them alive and provide them education to get them out of poverty.  (Two things that Trump supporters are dead-set against.)

Those things are already provided.

[JoeWeber 2,299]

3 hours ago, brenthutch said:

“45% of Americans have no access to public transportation.”

And this in spite of decades of Republican efforts to increase access to public transportation for the benefit of those poor folks unable to afford a car? And that 3 buck a gallon milk that goes into those socialist school lunch programs would be 6 bucks a gallon without heavy annual subsidies.

[SkyDekker 1,121]

3 hours ago, brenthutch said:

The left needs the poor to stay poor and dependent on government handouts in return for votes.

And I guess the right needs the poor to stay poor so it can justify handouts to companies owned by themselves arguing that all that wealth will trickle down to the poor people.

[billvon 2,396]

32 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Those things are already provided.

Despite the best efforts of the right.  Yep.  And so is (almost) the cheapest gas in the world.  Like I said, the former is more important to spend our time on than the latter.

[billvon 2,396]

3 hours ago, brenthutch said:

“45% of Americans have no access to public transportation.”

So more than half of Americans have easy access to public transportation.  Thank you for proving my point.

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find it impractical

So it's inconvenient.  Boo hoo.  Starvation is a lot more inconvenient, and not something you can solve by buying a wheelie cart or walking an extra quarter mile.

[jakee 1,254]

3 hours ago, brenthutch said:

“45% of Americans have no access to public transportation.”

https://www.apta.com/news-publications/public-transportation-facts/

And and many of those who do find it impractical, (grocery shopping, not close to place of employment, limited scheduling, young children, weather and safety concerns to name a few)

Because of a more than half century long campaign against public transportation, not because it's too difficult or impractical to implement.

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So wrong again.

When 45% is most then yeah. Sounds like you learned math on a Republican electioneering course.

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4 minutes ago, jakee said:

Because of a more than half century long campaign against public transportation, not because it's too difficult or impractical to implement.

When 45% is most then yeah. Sounds like you learned math on a Republican electioneering course.

Hey, 45% is nearly more than 50%, so it may as well be more than 50%.  And if that's the case, then for Brent's purposes it IS more than 50%.

[SkyDekker 1,121]

7 minutes ago, jakee said:

When 45% is most then yeah. Sounds like you learned math on a Republican electioneering course.

Brent has shown over and over again that basis math skills (and basic reading comprehension skills) are not part of his toolbox.

[brenthutch 383]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

Hey, 45% is nearly more than 50%, so it may as well be more than 50%.  And if that's the case, then for Brent's purposes it IS more than 50%.

When you add the 45% that don’t have access to public transportation at all to the 44% who are unable to for a host of reasons you get to “most Americans”.  Just try to get one kid to football practice and the other to jujitsu, buy groceries while they at practice then pick them on time.  There is a reason almost no one outside of cities relies on it. 

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/07/who-relies-on-public-transit-in-the-u-s/

[jakee 1,254]

4 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

When you add the 45% that don’t have access to public transportation at all to the 44% who are unable to for a host of reasons you get to “most Americans”.  Just try to get one kid to football practice and the other to jujitsu, buy groceries while they at practice then pick them on time.  There is a reason almost no one outside of cities relies on it. 

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/07/who-relies-on-public-transit-in-the-u-s/

A ) That has no relation to the claim you made, or the claim Bill made that you said was wrong.

B ) You think the pressing issues facing families that can afford neither gas nor milk are how to get their kids to football practice and jiujitsu? Ok Marie Brentoinette.

[brenthutch 383]

Just now, jakee said:

A ) That has no relation to the claim you made, or the claim Bill made that you said was wrong.

B ) You think the pressing issues facing families that can afford neither gas nor milk are how to get their kids to football practice and jiujitsu? Ok Marie Brentoinette.

Yes you are right, I should have said most Americans are unable to use public transportation or choose not to for reasons that are their business.  And to that nearly 90%, gas prices are a concern.

[jakee 1,254]

12 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Yes you are right, I should have said most Americans are unable to use public transportation or choose not to for reasons that are their business.  And to that nearly 90%, gas prices are a concern.

Doesn't quite have the weight of 'won't someone think of the poor children' though does it? I can see why you decided to try and sneak the other argument through.

[brenthutch 383]

2 minutes ago, jakee said:

Doesn't quite have the weight of 'won't someone think of the poor children' though does it? I can see why you decided to try and sneak the other argument through.

 

5 minutes ago, jakee said:

Doesn't quite have the weight of 'won't someone think of the poor children' 

That works a lot better on lefties than facts and logic.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phSxxVJCZsc

 

[jakee 1,254]

10 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

That works a lot better on lefties than facts and logic.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phSxxVJCZsc

And yet a factual reading of this thread shows you to be wrong. Again.

[brenthutch 383]

23 minutes ago, jakee said:

And yet a factual reading of this thread shows you to be wrong. Again.

The fact at hand is, a lot of people will be negatively impacted by higher gas prices.  Bill thinks gas should cost more than milk.  That would put it North of $3.50.  I don’t know many people who would like to back to Obama era prices (five out of his eight years, gas was more than $3.00 a gallon.

[billvon 2,396]

32 minutes ago, jakee said:

And yet a factual reading of this thread shows you to be wrong. Again.

Funny how many Trump supporters now think "fact check" is a curseword.

[JoeWeber 2,299]

1 minute ago, brenthutch said:

The fact at hand is, a lot of people will be negatively impacted by higher gas prices.  Bill thinks gas should cost more than milk.  That would put it North of $3.50.  I don’t know many people who would like to back to Obama era prices (five out of his eight years, gas was more than $3.00 a gallon.

In my 33 years of running Jet-A burning Aircraft in the Jumping biz I've paid from .85¢ up to $5.50 per gallon. The world still turns on it's axis and skydiving is still on offer to any and all who wish to give it a try or make it their sport. Stay calm, it will all be okay.

[brenthutch 383]

52 minutes ago, billvon said:

Funny how many Trump supporters now think "fact check" is a curseword.

Who is the Trump supporter in question?

[yobnoc 142]

On 1/23/2021 at 4:13 PM, brenthutch said:

Fun fact, our CO2 emissions were lower after we left the Paris Agreement than while we were still in.

2017- 5131 million tons 

2015- 5263 million tons 

The United States filed its intent to withdraw at the earliest possible date, on November 4, 2019. After the one-year period, on November 4, 2020, the U.S. formally withdrew from the Agreement, coincidentally on the day following the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

So, yeah...your post is bunk.

[brenthutch 383]

2 hours ago, yobnoc said:

The United States filed its intent to withdraw at the earliest possible date, on November 4, 2019. After the one-year period, on November 4, 2020, the U.S. formally withdrew from the Agreement, coincidentally on the day following the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

So, yeah...your post is bunk.

Just what policies did Trump enact to abide by the Paris Agreement?