wmw999 2,293 #51 January 8, 2021 Guys, no matter the provocation, personal attacks are not allowed. And people trolling for angry reaction: just don't. Remember that a gadfly does no one any good. Critics might, but gadflies just buzz around, stinging, irritating, and contributing nothing of value. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.SkyFall 28 #52 January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: Yes, obviously, but it would have been better if the cop self defended against the shooter and not Breonna Taylor. How do you defend against someone not attacking you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 416 #53 January 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, lummy said: wow...... she's part of a mob who just broke down a door and she is personally trying to gain entry into a secured area, but she's not culpable for her actions Again no justification for deadly force, had she breached the door that would have been a different story. Can’t we all just agree that a needless death is a tragedy? The blood lust from the left is disturbing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.SkyFall 28 #54 January 8, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Again no justification for deadly force, had she breached the door that would have been a different story. Can’t we all just agree that a needless death is a tragedy? The blood lust from the left is disturbing. Its not if you see a threat, it is the cop perceived a threat, DUH! And no we can't, I celebrate the death of traitors as all patriots should! The sudden pussy-ish behavior from the right is hilarious although I'd be distraught too if I was that much of a loser Edited January 8, 2021 by Dr.SkyFall Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 416 #55 January 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dr.SkyFall said: How do you defend against someone not attacking you? You can’t and that is why Breonna’s death is a tragedy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,534 #56 January 8, 2021 I'm getting mixed messages here; Personal Attacks are recommended? LOL! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 95 #57 January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, ryoder said: I'm getting mixed messages here; Personal Attacks are recommended? LOL! I was wondering that myself, but given that I am one of the perpetrators, I thought it best to keep quiet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 416 #58 January 8, 2021 Just now, Dr.SkyFall said: Its not if you see a threat, it is the cop perceived a threat, DUH! And no we can't, I celebrate the death of traitors as all patriots should! And just who is the arbiter discerning who are the traitors and who are the patriots? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.SkyFall 28 #59 January 8, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, brenthutch said: And just who is the arbiter discerning who are the traitors and who are the patriots? It's funny you are only asking those questions now, why now but not earlier? I'd say those storming the US Capitol to disrupt an act of government would be the traitors.....obviously Edited January 8, 2021 by Dr.SkyFall Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,277 #60 January 8, 2021 I have never even seen a post recommendation.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #61 January 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Again no justification for deadly force, had she breached the door that would have been a different story. Can’t we all just agree that a needless death is a tragedy? The blood lust from the left is disturbing. she lifted herself up and was going through the broken window of the door. Are you arguing that the officer had to wait another second for her to be completely through the door before deadly force is allowed? Was it needless? Of course, it was. She put herself in that position by her actions by storming the Capitol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,293 #62 January 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, ryoder said: I'm getting mixed messages here; Personal Attacks are recommended? LOL! I'm still learning the ropes, and I can't figure out how to un-recommend. That said, maybe a good example of a personal attack should be posted every now and then. Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,534 #63 January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, wmw999 said: I'm still learning the ropes, and I can't figure out how to un-recommend. That said, maybe a good example of a personal attack should be posted every now and then. Wendy P. I had never seen a recommendation before, but if that's what it takes to get my posts recommended, sure I'll join in. Now who should I attack first...hmmm... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,293 #64 January 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, ryoder said: I had never seen a recommendation before, but if that's what it takes to get my posts recommended, sure I'll join in. Now who should I attack first...hmmm... You know, Meso can probably arrange to remove all those "like points." Just sayin'... Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 416 #65 January 8, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, lummy said: she lifted herself up and was going through the broken window of the door. Are you arguing that the officer had to wait another second for her to be completely through the door before deadly force is allowed? Was it needless? Of course, it was. She put herself in that position by her actions by storming the Capitol Let’s conduct a little thought experiment. Change the federal building from one in DC to..... say....one in Portland Oregon. Change the color of the unarmed victim from white to black and change the color of the cop from black to white......now replay the scenario. Edited January 8, 2021 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,072 #66 January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, billvon said: Does anyone here doubt for a second that if the rioters had been black that there would now be dozens dead, and that Trump supporters would be saying "Good! Criminals were shot and killed during the commission of a crime. Guns rule!" Black people know better than to act like the people in the video of white woman shot to death. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,277 #67 January 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Let’s conduct a little thought experiment. Change the federal building from one in DC to..... say....one in Portland Oregon. Change the color of the unarmed victim from white to black and change the color of the cop from black to white......now replay the scenario. The scenario still includes LEO tasked with protecting high value targets protecting the last barrier between a mob and their protectees. Don't see it playing out any different if the person was black, other than I am relatively sure many more people would have already been shot before it even getting to this part. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,803 #68 January 8, 2021 It is possible both to be a troll and to be ignorant. We also see that in the "2020 climate fails" thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,072 #69 January 8, 2021 The person who has posted the objectionable troll has succeeded in goading some of us into a reaction that has forced a Mod into taking an action. Why did you let him succeed? There is a cure for this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,803 #70 January 8, 2021 Just an innocent minding her own business in her own home (which happens to be some 3,000 miles away):https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/08/ashli-babbitt-shooting-video-capitol/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #71 January 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, gowlerk said: The person who has posted the objectionable troll has succeeded in goading some of us into a reaction that has forced a Mod into taking an action. Why did you let him succeed? There is a cure for this. Ignoring it is one cure. But ignoring stuff and letting it slide is part of why we’re so fucked right now. If someone is being a racist asshole then maybe they should be called one. Maybe it’s time for people to make it known it’s not OK. Brent is either trolling or a racist. Both of those things would require mod action in my book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,072 #72 January 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, yoink said: Ignoring it is one cure. But ignoring stuff and letting it slide is part of why we’re so fucked right now. If someone is being a racist asshole then maybe they should be called one. Maybe it’s time for people to make it known it’s not OK. Brent is either trolling or a racist. Both of those things would require mod action in my book. Racist is as racist does. Not as it says. I don't think I have ever seen the temperature in this room quite as high as it is now. It is a time for cool heads and careful reflection before posting. Just because the side that is losing gets all frustrated and says things that are ridiculous is no reason to honour their foolishness with an angry reply. If something ridiculous is said, the appropriate response is ridicule. Not anger. It is not that hard to make an idiot appear idiotic. You don't have to call him names, you just have to hold up a mirror to his face. Let billvon be your inspiration. He generally manages to make fools look like fools without ever using the word fool. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #73 January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, gowlerk said: Black people know better than to act like the people in the video of white woman shot to death. Black people wouldn’t have been permitted to go that far into the building Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 416 #74 January 9, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, yoink said: Brent is either trolling or a racist. Both of those things would require mod action in my book. Typical left wing cancel culture in full display. If you can’t coherently counter the message, silence the messenger. (I’m pretty sure that I was called a racist asshole and/or a troll. That is OK I am wearing my big boy panties and don’t need to have my delicate sensibilities protected by the moderators) Edited January 9, 2021 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,527 #75 January 9, 2021 6 hours ago, wmw999 said: I'm still learning the ropes, and I can't figure out how to un-recommend. That said, maybe a good example of a personal attack should be posted every now and then. Wendy P. And I haven't? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites