PT6-20 Cessna U206

[vpjr 1]

That would be 6 Jumpers. You would be lighter in most cases on fuel. I didnt have the doors off and spoiler installed so the time would be close.

[theonlyski 3]

That's about 30 gal/hr in a maximum performance climb?

When can I go for a 'sit down, shut up and hold on' ride?

"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly
DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890
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[vpjr 1]

Im not pushing the engine "Max performance", only 650C, top of green is 705C for the -20. My goal is to get great performance from the lighter airframe at temps that will make the engine last and last. Pushing the -20 to top of green temps greatly reduces the hot section life.

[theonlyski 3]

vpjr

Im not pushing the engine "Max performance", only 650C, top of green is 705C for the -20. My goal is to get great performance from the lighter airframe at temps that will make the engine last and last. Pushing the -20 to top of green temps greatly reduces the hot section life.

Gotcha!

What's the horsepower you've got it limited to now? I can only imagine the seat of the pants feeling you get from that thing on a light load.

"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly
DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890
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[riggerrob 558]

There you go ... thinking about reliability... and safety ... and competent pilots ... and predictable maintenance intervals ...

Keep it up Minivan

[base801 0]

Any updates on this thread, I know its cold in your area of the world so testing may not be going ahead, but hope there is some progress going on, even if the plane is in the hanger getting a flashy paint job

[Caravan1 0]

Are you still working on this project?
What is the current status?
I am interested. It could be just right for small to mid size DZs.
I would like to see demonstrated performance numbers as soon as you have them and to be kept up[email] to date on status of the project. I would seriously consider purchasing one. It would be a good fit for DZ's that can't support a Caravan or as an overflow plane for a DZ that is out growing a Caravan. I have two Grand Caravans and it is always difficult for a DZ to make it across that huge gap between piston and turbine aircraft. Turbine 206 at the right price point could be the right stepping stone to make it across. If the price to capacity ratio is right, I would buy one tomorrow and give it a shot. I would prefer the aft roll up door and speed brakes.

[vpjr 1]

I am waiting for the engineering drawings to be completed and submitted along with the Instructions for continued airworthiness and POH supplement. The lawyers say the drawings are to be submitted end of april and the rest middle of may. The Feds say 3 months after submission the final flight test will be after that. I had to get lawyers involved now so we will see what will happen.

[sdctlc 0]

Awesome Thread to read through... Keep at it as it is obvious you have come a long way on this project and I hope the end is somewhere in sight! Absolutely love seeing someone push down the road of innovation!
Scott C.

"He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!"

[theonlyski 3]

Iago

***I am waiting for the engineering drawings to be completed and submitted along with the Instructions for continued airworthiness and POH supplement. The lawyers say the drawings are to be submitted end of april and the rest middle of may. The Feds say 3 months after submission the final flight test will be after that. I had to get lawyers involved now so we will see what will happen.

I suppose if you want to drop skydivers you can't just stencil 'EXPERIMENTAL' on the side. Bummer.

Actually, I think you can't do any commercial ops in an experimental.

Now, if it wasn't a commercial operation and nobody was paying for the jump, may actually be legal.

"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly
DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890
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[Opie 0]

theonlyski

******I am waiting for the engineering drawings to be completed and submitted along with the Instructions for continued airworthiness and POH supplement. The lawyers say the drawings are to be submitted end of april and the rest middle of may. The Feds say 3 months after submission the final flight test will be after that. I had to get lawyers involved now so we will see what will happen.

I suppose if you want to drop skydivers you can't just stencil 'EXPERIMENTAL' on the side. Bummer.

Actually, I think you can't do any commercial ops in an experimental.

Now, if it wasn't a commercial operation and nobody was paying for the jump, may actually be legal.

I volunteer to jump it and not pay.
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[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

theonlyski

******I am waiting for the engineering drawings to be completed and submitted along with the Instructions for continued airworthiness and POH supplement. The lawyers say the drawings are to be submitted end of april and the rest middle of may. The Feds say 3 months after submission the final flight test will be after that. I had to get lawyers involved now so we will see what will happen.

I suppose if you want to drop skydivers you can't just stencil 'EXPERIMENTAL' on the side. Bummer.

Actually, I think you can't do any commercial ops in an experimental.

Now, if it wasn't a commercial operation and nobody was paying for the jump, may actually be legal.

Not exactly. We've had this discussion before.

I don't know the specifics, but some people who do made comments in THIS thread.

Apparently, experimentals have a list of approved operations on the cert. If skydiving isn't listed on there, it's not legal.

Not that it can't be done. Or hasn't been done.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[Sky_doggy 0]

wolfriverjoe

*********I am waiting for the engineering drawings to be completed and submitted along with the Instructions for continued airworthiness and POH supplement. The lawyers say the drawings are to be submitted end of april and the rest middle of may. The Feds say 3 months after submission the final flight test will be after that. I had to get lawyers involved now so we will see what will happen.

I suppose if you want to drop skydivers you can't just stencil 'EXPERIMENTAL' on the side. Bummer.

Actually, I think you can't do any commercial ops in an experimental.

Now, if it wasn't a commercial operation and nobody was paying for the jump, may actually be legal.

Not exactly. We've had this discussion before.

I don't know the specifics, but some people who do made comments in THIS thread.

Apparently, experimentals have a list of approved operations on the cert. If skydiving isn't listed on there, it's not legal.

Not that it can't be done. Or hasn't been done.

I have an experimental aircraft and skydiving & commercial operations are written as exclusions in the operating limitations. I guess theoretically you could get the local FSDO alter the operating limitations but my guess is that it would be a could day in hell before that happened.

[holie 0]

vpjr

I am waiting for the engineering drawings to be completed and submitted along with the Instructions for continued airworthiness and POH supplement. The lawyers say the drawings are to be submitted end of april and the rest middle of may. The Feds say 3 months after submission the final flight test will be after that. I had to get lawyers involved now so we will see what will happen.

What about middle of may. Tell us good news ;-)

[skydivefrance 0]

Hi folks,

Talking about STC's Cessna 206, is there some one who know a STC for a sliding lexan door like Cessna Caravan have but for Cessna 206 ?

...to infinity and beyond !!!!!

[holie 0]

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3847526

http://www.jumpplanes.com

[dzswoop717 5]

vpjr. Any good news? How about an update.

[vpjr 1]

Soooo, Almost 6 years from the start of this. I just finished the Flight test demonstration with the FAA and passed. I have a small fix it list but nothing to difficult. After I show the changes the paperwork makes one more pass through the Aircraft Certification Office and the STC will be issued. I am waiting to post all the relevant specs when the paperwork is done and handed to me.

[sdctlc 0]

Congrats on the light at the end of the long road!!

Scott C.

"He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!"

[skydived19006 4]

Sweet! And it only seems like yesterday that I saw this thread for the first time! I want to jump it. Actually, would almost rather just ride up and down. He'll, I'll do both!

Hopefully the market shows some love. Sure could fill a gap.

Martin

Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else.

AC DZ

[riggerrob 558]

Way to go MiniVan!
We eagerly await precise numbers.
Will the STC also fit a 207?

[vpjr 1]

I know it wont include the 207.

[riggerrob 558]

vpjr

I know it wont include the 207.

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Shucks!
I was hoping that we could carry one extra jumper to help pay the cost of Jet A ... kind of like a Soloy 207.

Will your engine conversion be compatible with all the various STOL kits (Wing-X, Sportsman, Flint, Robertson, etc.)

Would you do me a favour and make PT6A fuel pump inspections mandatory at every 50 hour inspection?

[vpjr 1]

Jet A is cheaper than Av Gas and I think the spread will only increase over time. The Prototype is a little heavy and needs a diet. I demonstrated the aircraft to the Flight Test DER at 3780lbs (180) over gross to get the data for a gross weight increase. The original STC will have the 3600# Gross and then the paper work for the increase will be submitted and we will have to wait for that to go through.
The Prototype aircraft had the Sportsman STOL leading edge Cuff and was flight tested with it. Aircraft getting the conversion will need the Sportsman Cuff until someone flight tests the conversion with out. Adding Wing X, etc is up to the IA that installs any additional STC mods. No restriction for other STCs.
I thought about you Rob when I was doing the FCU inspection.

[skydived19006 4]

vpjr

The Prototype is a little heavy and needs a diet. I demonstrated the aircraft to the Flight Test DER at 3780 lbs (180) over gross to get the data for a gross weight increase. The original STC will have the 3600# Gross and then the paper work for the increase will be submitted and we will have to wait for that to go through.

How does the empty weight compare to what it was originally with the 520?

Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else.

AC DZ