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Who will win the 2020 election?

Trump or Biden?   

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  1. 1. Who do you think will win the election 2020? Not who you want to win, but the one you think will win.

    • Trump
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    • Biden
      25
    • Election?
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  2. 2. Who do you want to win the election 2020

    • Trump
      11
    • Biden
      31
    • Election?
      1

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  • Poll closed on 11/03/2020 at 09:20 AM

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2 hours ago, RobertMBlevins said:

The more the public chases Trump around and demands revenge, the more meals you feed his supporters. Some people wanted the same thing regarding Nixon after he resigned. As it turned out, it was better for the nation to move on and forget him. Sooner or later, even Trump supporters will realize that he isn't coming back as President, and without that power he will eventually become a footnote. 

And he doesn't even get to leave with honor. Imagine that. All the other living US Presidents, as well as our Vice Presidents, have the privilege of continuing to be admired even after they left office. No such future exists for Trump. He will be remembered as (most likely) the worst President in US history, and that is a legacy he can never escape. He will have legal problems, sure. And fines and whatever will probably be levied on him here and there. But allowing him to slink off into obscurity in shame is the best revenge, if you want to call it that. The whole thing reminds me of a scene from the movie, Star Trek - The Wrath of Khan. I've changed around a few of the original words in the script just for laughs. 

American Voters:
                I've done far worse than vote you out.
                I've hurt you.  And I wish to go on
                hurting you.  I shall leave you,
                as you tried to leave all of us...without hope, without any help in our time of need...forgotten.

The best thing for Americans, in my humble opinion, is to move on from Trump and try your best to forget him. History will do the remembering for you anyway. 

Trump doesn't do shame. If he is allowed to slink off he will spend the rest of his life whining about being robbed. He will also remain a malign influence on lots of powerful, and gullible people. He needs to be convicted and spend time behind bars. That is the only thing that might remove any credibility he has. His ego needs to be crushed.

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I just watched two patriots address the nation live from Delaware. They spoke in complete sentences. They spoke English as if it was their native language. They didn't call anyone insulting names. They didn't threaten anyone. They didn't mock anyone. It was amazing!

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1 hour ago, ryoder said:

I just watched two patriots address the nation live from Delaware. They spoke in complete sentences. They spoke English as if it was their native language. They didn't call anyone insulting names. They didn't threaten anyone. They didn't mock anyone. It was amazing!

Right???

Holy crap it’s a breath of fresh air. Functioning adults who can give a presentation.

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11 hours ago, RobertMBlevins said:

The more the public chases Trump around and demands revenge, the more meals you feed his supporters. Some people wanted the same thing regarding Nixon after he resigned. As it turned out, it was better for the nation to move on and forget him.

How do you know that? 

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And he doesn't even get to leave with honor. Imagine that. All the other living US Presidents, as well as our Vice Presidents, have the privilege of continuing to be admired even after they left office.

Nonsense. Very few Republicans admire Obama, and very few Democrats admire Bush (except in comparison to Trump). Trump will continue to be praised as a godlike figure by vast swathes of his supporters for years to come. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Republican 2024 platform promises a return to the Trump glory days.

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3 hours ago, jakee said:

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Republican 2024 platform promises a return to the Trump glory days.

I predict that getting the R nomination for 2024 will be next to impossible without a Trump endorsement. Unless he doesn’t give one, which is not likely. He will try to play a kingmaker role.

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3 hours ago, jakee said:

... I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Republican 2024 platform promises a return to the Trump glory days.

Yes

20 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

I predict that getting the R nomination for 2024 will be next to impossible without a Trump endorsement. Unless he doesn’t give one, which is not likely. He will try to play a kingmaker role.

Yes. Anything that results in self glorification will keep trump active. It will also be a drag on the GOP until Neo-fascism is purged.

Populist ideology is not easily cleansed. trump will always paint his loss as a stolen victory.

Meanwhile in Russia president Putin has ordered all flags to be flown at half-mast. To recognize the darkest day of Russia since June 22, 1941. The politburo stood for a minute in silence in recognition of trump's service to the Motherland.

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11 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Populist ideology is not easily cleansed. trump will always paint his loss as a stolen victory.

He will blame the "China virus". Not his handling of it of course. Around the world many politicians have gained popularity by being seen as doing a good job in a crisis. But not Trump, he totally blew his chance to rise to the occasion. But mishandling an emergency was always seen as the greatest risk of having such a man as POTUS. He performed exactly as most thinking people expected he would.

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1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

I predict that getting the R nomination for 2024 will be next to impossible without a Trump endorsement. Unless he doesn’t give one, which is not likely. He will try to play a kingmaker role.

It won't be much of an endorsement if it comes from Danbury Minimum Security Federal Prison.
That's one reason I would like to see him prosecuted for his crimes. 

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1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

I predict that getting the R nomination for 2024 will be next to impossible without a Trump endorsement. Unless he doesn’t give one, which is not likely. He will try to play a kingmaker role.

Agree ;"Trump biographer Michael D’Antonio said Trump has been savvy about exploiting media opportunities throughout his life, whether it’s the New York tabloids or “The Apprentice.”

I think it’s inevitable that he has a media platform,” he said. “Now the opportunity to broadcast is available to almost anyone at almost no cost. I think people would watch Trump bloviate spontaneously from any outlet. That’s going to appeal to him immensely.”

Above from a Politico story entitled Trump’s post-presidency: Stay relevant, make money, avoid indictment

Shutting trump up will never be as easy as:

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It appears the fat lady has sung.

I lost and so did the patriotic Americans. The country remains almost equally divided. We have 50% of the people as dedicated true believers, pick a side, same-same. To paraphrase Joe Weber, we have the United States of Socialist Republics and the Patriotic States of America.

It truly felt good to be on the offensive these last four years. Now, I/we will go back to our defensive position and hiding in plain sight.

We lost most of our back channel comms but based on the last ones, I am holding on to a very slim fantasy of hope.

My peer group is concerned about violence coming to our area. They fear the gangs from Atlanta will feel empowered to spread out to the rural country. If they do, we are ready.

How are you Electoral College opponents feeling now? It worked in your favor this time. BTW, good call billvon on the Trump number.

I have Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit to guide me as always. So, I remain faithful and thankful. All of this political turmoil is predicted in Biblical prophecy. And, it will get worse until Jesus returns. Personally, I hope the Rapture comes in my lifetime.

So, to my enemies, I congratulate your victory. Just keep in mind, we are not going away.

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2 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

How are you Electoral College opponents feeling now? It worked in your favor this time. BTW, good call billvon on the Trump number.

What? Biden won BOTH the electoral college and the popular vote (by almost 5 million). So yes, get rid of the EC and Trump still loses.

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17 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

I lost and so did the patriotic Americans. The country remains almost equally divided.

Because of people like you who think that way.

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My peer group is concerned about violence coming to our area. They fear the gangs from Atlanta will feel empowered to spread out to the rural country. If they do, we are ready.

You were concerned about violence coming to your area during Trump's Presidency too. You've been afraid for as long as you've been posting here.

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How are you Electoral College opponents feeling now? It worked in your favor this time.

The same. The only thing the EC has achieved in this election is giving Trump multiple avenues to spread lies and conspiracy theories about vote counting in close races. Without the EC it wouldn't matter which way the late counted postal votes in Georgia were breaking, for example.

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So, to my enemies, I congratulate your victory. 

Why do you think other Americans are your enemies? Why do you hate America?

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1 hour ago, RonD1120 said:

It appears the fat lady has sung.

I lost and so did the patriotic Americans. The country remains almost equally divided. We have 50% of the people as dedicated true believers, pick a side, same-same. To paraphrase Joe Weber, we have the United States of Socialist Republics and the Patriotic States of America.

It truly felt good to be on the offensive these last four years. Now, I/we will go back to our defensive position and hiding in plain sight.

We lost most of our back channel comms but based on the last ones, I am holding on to a very slim fantasy of hope.

My peer group is concerned about violence coming to our area. They fear the gangs from Atlanta will feel empowered to spread out to the rural country. If they do, we are ready.

How are you Electoral College opponents feeling now? It worked in your favor this time. BTW, good call billvon on the Trump number.

I have Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit to guide me as always. So, I remain faithful and thankful. All of this political turmoil is predicted in Biblical prophecy. And, it will get worse until Jesus returns. Personally, I hope the Rapture comes in my lifetime.

So, to my enemies, I congratulate your victory. Just keep in mind, we are not going away.

God doesn't 'do' politics. And even if he did, he would be an independent. B) And who said we were enemies anyway? Last time I checked, we were Americans and didn't judge others simply based on their political affiliation. Look at your own words and see where the real problem lies. 

Side note. I saw a lot of celebrations on TV yesterday. Didn't see anyone turning over cars, breaking windows, or trying to intimidate people by dressing up in camo and packing assault rifles. The real reason Trump lost was none of those things, though. The reason he lost the election isn't even over the pandemic, but due to it...it was going to be close. 

The reason he lost was because he lied to his own followers by telling them mail-in voting was phony and they believed that lie. Which meant they had to win mostly by turning out on Election Day, while the Democrats could depend on both turnout...as well as the mail in voting. So they simply got more numbers and won the election. This is what happens when you lie to the American people. You get exactly what you had coming. 

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2 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

 

How are you Electoral College opponents feeling now? It worked in your favor this time. BTW, good call billvon on the Trump number.

 

I think the Electoral College is an awful system that at BEST muddies the vote for President and I would vote for anyone who ran on a platform of getting rid of it. Same as I always have.

 

Heres the thing though. Biden still would have won if the electors college was replaced with a equal vote system. Trump wouldn’t have in 2016.

 

Also, the patriots have just taken the US back. 

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11 hours ago, jakee said:

How do you know that? 

Nonsense. Very few Republicans admire Obama, and very few Democrats admire Bush (except in comparison to Trump). Trump will continue to be praised as a godlike figure by vast swathes of his supporters for years to come. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Republican 2024 platform promises a return to the Trump glory days.

I guess technically Trump could run for president a second time in 2024. I dont think the constitution disallows a single term president from becoming president a second time. What a freaking show that would be...

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3 minutes ago, Westerly said:

I guess technically Trump could run for president a second time in 2024. I dont think the constitution disallows a single term president from becoming president a second time. What a freaking show that would be...

In US politics the incumbent has a huge advantage; It is very difficult to unseat one. Trump is such a fuckup that he lost both the popular vote and the EC, even with the incumbency advantage. It would be ridiculous for the party put back him again.

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38 minutes ago, Westerly said:

I guess technically Trump could run for president a second time in 2024. I don't think the constitution disallows a single term president from becoming president a second time. What a freaking show that would be...

History not your strong suit?

Look up Grover Cleveland. 

Theodore Roosevelt tried to do it too, but failed. 

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