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Who will win the 2020 election?

Trump or Biden?   

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  1. 1. Who do you think will win the election 2020? Not who you want to win, but the one you think will win.

    • Trump
      17
    • Biden
      25
    • Election?
      1
  2. 2. Who do you want to win the election 2020

    • Trump
      11
    • Biden
      31
    • Election?
      1

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  • Poll closed on 11/03/2020 at 09:20 AM

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10 minutes ago, ryoder said:

The Gang-That-Couldn't-Sue-Straight, cited Minnesota counties in an affidavit about Michigan:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/526926-trump-lawyers-cited-minnesota-counties-in-affidavit-about-michigan-report

Good thing too. While this half-arsed coup attempt seems doomed to fail, it's almost more because the people trying it are utterly incompetent than your system of government being strong enough to repel it.

if Trump had ever bothered employing anyone who knew what they were doing you guys would be in serious trouble right now.

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1 hour ago, jakee said:

Good thing too. While this half-arsed coup attempt seems doomed to fail, it's almost more because the people trying it are utterly incompetent than your system of government being strong enough to repel it.

if Trump had ever bothered employing anyone who knew what they were doing you guys would be in serious trouble right now.

Hi jakee,

That pretty much describes the entirety of the Trump administration.

Jerry Baumchen

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5 hours ago, jakee said:

Good thing too. While this half-arsed coup attempt seems doomed to fail, it's almost more because the people trying it are utterly incompetent than your system of government being strong enough to repel it.

if Trump had ever bothered employing anyone who knew what they were doing you guys would be in serious trouble right now.

Not much good if there is no evidence to base a case on. Its no coincidence that the "good" lawyers he had all ran for the hills.  

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On 11/19/2020 at 1:29 PM, Phil1111 said:

...Mr. Trump contacted the Republican majority leader in the Michigan State Senate to issue the invitation, according to a person briefed on the invitation. It is not clear how many Michigan lawmakers will be making the trip to Washington, nor precisely what Mr. Trump plans to say to the lawmakers. The president has made few public appearances since the election and his daily schedule often has no events scheduled, despite the worsening coronavirus pandemic."

Well, I'm going to guess that Trump wasn't super-duper happy with the meeting.

From Heather Cox Richardson on FB:

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...two top Republicans in the Michigan legislature, whom Trump had invited to the White House apparently to enlist their help in overturning the vote in their state, issued a statement about what happened in their meeting with the president.
Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey and Michigan Speaker of the House Lee Chatfield said they used their time with the president to press him for more money to help Michigan fight the coronavirus, which continues to rage across the country.
As for the election, they said “We have not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in Michigan and as legislative leaders, we will follow the law and follow the normal process regarding Michigan’s electors…. Michigan’s certification process should be a deliberate process free from threats and intimidation. Allegations of fraudulent behavior should be taken seriously, thoroughly investigated, and if proven, prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And the candidates who win the most votes win elections and Michigan’s electoral votes.”

 

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5 minutes ago, olofscience said:

Well, looks like Trump "convinced" the Michigan Republicans to do something, after all: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55030617

Hi olof,

He has convinced them to 'try something.'  I seriously doubt that this is going anywhere.  Just more wasted effort.

Jerry Baumchen

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9 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Hi Robert,

These links to anything in the WaPo are not available to us who are not subscribers.  Look here:

Re:  'This Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations'

Trump bid to overturn election stumbles as judge tosses Pennsylvania lawsuit | Reuters

Jerry Baumchen

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7 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Robert,

These links to anything in the WaPo are not available to us who are not subscribers.  Look here:

Re:  'This Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations'

Trump bid to overturn election stumbles as judge tosses Pennsylvania lawsuit | Reuters

Jerry Baumchen

I don't subscribe to WaPo; I just disable Javascript and reload the page, then I can read it.

ETA: Here is a PDF of the judges decision: https://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/gov.uscourts.pamd_.127057.202.0_1-1.pdf

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