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Shamelessly stolen from Dana Milbank.  All CAPS with exclamation points, so even Trumpists can relate.

LETTING 220,000 AMERICANS DIE FROM COVID-19 — WORST IN WORLD. VOTE!

LOSING 3.9 MILLION JOBS IN FOUR YEARS — WORST IN RECORDED HISTORY. VOTE!

 

KNOWING PANDEMIC WAS “DEADLY STUFF” ON FEB. 7 BUT OPTING TO “PLAY IT DOWN” AND MISLEAD AMERICANS. VOTE!

PROPOSING BLEACH AS A COVID CURE, MOCKING MASK-WEARING, HOSTING WHITE HOUSE SUPERSPREADER EVENT AND SUGGESTING ANTHONY FAUCI IS AN “IDIOT.” VOTE!

ADDING $7 TRILLION TO FEDERAL DEBT, MAKING IT LARGER THAN U.S. ECONOMY FOR FIRST TIME IN 70 YEARS. VOTE!

BALLOONING CURRENT BUDGET DEFICIT TO ALL-TIME RECORD $3.1 TRILLION. VOTE!

ENDING HEALTH COVERAGE FOR MILLIONS AND SUING TO ELIMINATE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, INCLUDING PREEXISTING-CONDITION PROTECTIONS. VOTE!

 

VIOLENTLY DISPERSING PEACEFUL CIVIL RIGHTS PROTESTERS OUTSIDE WHITE HOUSE FOR A BIBLE-WIELDING PHOTO OP. VOTE!

PROPOSING TO POSTPONE THE ELECTION, TRYING TO DISCREDIT MAIL-IN VOTING AS FRAUDULENT AND REFUSING TO COMMIT TO PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER. VOTE!

 

DEFENDING DEADLY VIOLENCE BY WHITE-SUPREMACIST SUPPORTERS AND WINKING AT MILITIA PLOT TO KIDNAP MICHIGAN GOVERNOR. VOTE!

SEEING “VERY FINE PEOPLE” AMONG VIOLENT NEO-NAZIS IN CHARLOTTESVILLE. VOTE!

VALIDATING A CONSPIRACY THEORY ABOUT PEDOPHILE RING CONTROLLING U.S. GOVERNMENT. VOTE!

CALLING SWATHS OF AFRICA AND CARIBBEAN “SHITHOLE COUNTRIES” AND TRYING TO BAN ENTRY FROM MUSLIM-MAJORITY NATIONS. VOTE!

 

TAKING MIGRANT CHILDREN FROM PARENTS AND LOCKING THEM IN CAGES. VOTE!

FALLING “IN LOVE” WITH NORTH KOREAN DICTATOR KIM JONG UN. VOTE!

SIDING WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN OVER U.S. INTELLIGENCE ON ELECTION INTERFERENCE. VOTE!

GETTING IMPEACHED FOR WITHHOLDING MILITARY AID FROM A VULNERABLE ALLY TO EXTORT CAMPAIGN HELP. VOTE!

EXCUSING SAUDI PRINCE’S DISMEMBERMENT OF U.S.-BASED JOURNALIST AND ADOPTING JOSEPH STALIN’S “ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE” PHRASE FOR AMERICAN MEDIA. VOTE!

 

APPEASING THE TALIBAN AND ABANDONING KURDISH ALLIES IN SYRIA. VOTE!

PRAISING “VERY GOOD FRIEND” XI JINPING FOR HANDLING OF CORONAVIRUS AND TRANSPARENCY. VOTE!

SHOVING A PRIME MINISTER AND PUBLICLY DISPARAGING LEADERS OF FRANCE, GERMANY, BRITAIN AND EVEN DENMARK BECAUSE GREENLAND WASN’T FOR SALE. VOTE!

 

BELITTLING “LOSERS” AND “SUCKERS” WHO DIED FOR OUR COUNTRY, POSTHUMOUSLY INSULTING JOHN MCCAIN, SKIPPING MEMORIALS FOR THE FALLEN AND DERIDING TOP GENERALS AS WAR PROFITEERS. VOTE!

ADMITTING TO PAYING OFF A PORN ACTRESS FOR SILENCE ABOUT AN AFFAIR, OFFERING KIND WORDS FOR CHARGED CHILD-SEX TRAFFICKER, AND TALKING ABOUT WOMEN AS “BLEEDING,” “DOG” AND “MONSTER.” VOTE!

ENRICHING HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY BY FORCING TAXPAYERS AND TRYING TO FORCE FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS TO SPEND MILLIONS AT HIS PROPERTIES. VOTE!

 

PAYING ONLY $750 IN FEDERAL INCOME TAXES IN 2016 AND IN 2017 AND PERSONALLY OWING $400 MILLION TO UNKNOWN CREDITORS. VOTE!

HAVING HIS FORMER CAMPAIGN CHAIRMAN, PERSONAL LAWYER, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, CHIEF STRATEGIST AND AT LEAST SIX OTHER CLOSE AIDES ARRESTED OR CONVICTED. VOTE!

 

USING THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND PRESIDENTIAL POWERS TO COMMUTE AND REDUCE SENTENCES OR DROP CHARGES AGAINST FRIENDS AND TO HARASS CRITICS. VOTE!

BEING PROTECTED BY POLITICAL APPOINTEES AFTER SPECIAL COUNSEL FINDS EVIDENCE OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. VOTE!

USING THE PRESIDENCY TO MAKE MORE THAN 20,000 FALSE OR DUBIOUS STATEMENTS, TO INSULT PEOPLE BY THE HUNDREDS AND TO TRASH INTERNATIONAL COOPERATION ON CLIMATE, TRADE, HEALTH AND SECURITY. VOTE!

INDUCING THE LONGEST GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN IN HISTORY, THEN DECLARING FAKE EMERGENCY TO SPEND MONEY WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL. VOTE!

 

SUFFERING TURNOVER OF 90 PERCENT AMONG CABINET AND TOP WHITE HOUSE STAFF, AND NOW ON FOURTH CHIEF OF STAFF, FOURTH PRESS SECRETARY, SIXTH COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR AND FOURTH NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER. VOTE!

 

FIGHTING IN COURTS TO DISCOURAGE MINORITIES FROM VOTING AND PARTICIPATING IN THE CENSUS AND DESECRATING RUTH BADER GINSBURG’S DEATH BY ATTACKING HER GRANDDAUGHTER AND RUSHING A REPLACEMENT BEFORE FUNERAL. VOTE!

MAKING THE WORDS “MOTHERF-----,” “BULL----,” “ASS.,” “SON OF A BITCH,” “HAMBERDER,” “SMOCKING GUN” AND “COVFEFE” PART OF NATIONAL DISCOURSE. VOTE!

SABOTAGING THE POSTAL SERVICE FOR ELECTORAL GAIN, ROUTINELY ACCUSING OPPONENTS OF TREASON AND USING A SHARPIE TO REDRAW A HURRICANE FORECAST MAP. VOTE!

THINKING FREDERICK DOUGLASS ALIVE, FINLAND PART OF RUSSIA, BRITAIN NOT YET A NUCLEAR POWER, WINDMILLS CAUSE CANCER AND “RAKING” PREVENTS FOREST FIRES. VOTE!

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12 hours ago, kallend said:

Shamelessly stolen from Dana Milbank.  All CAPS with exclamation points, so even Trumpists can relate.

 

And against the rules of the forum.

If you have something to say, say it. Don't just copy paste someone else's diatribe.

You know better than this. Yes, voting is important. But if you think it's important here then take the time to put it in your own words.

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And I know that a well known centrist on this forum will have explanations and excuses for all of the above. 

As for the forum rules: AFAIK there is also a rule against blatant trolling. Makes me wonder why said person is still allowed to post 

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5 hours ago, yoink said:

And against the rules of the forum.

If you have something to say, say it. Don't just copy paste someone else's diatribe.

You know better than this. Yes, voting is important. But if you think it's important here then take the time to put it in your own words.

I didn't know you had become a moderator.  

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12 hours ago, yoink said:

And against the rules of the forum.

No, it's not - but it's strongly discouraged.  The actual phrasing we use is "At the very least, the person should make a comment in relation to the wall of text they've copied and posted so we know where the poster himself stands in relationship to it."  So that fulfills the minimums we're asking for.

Needless to say it's not ideal.  This is a discussion forum, not a place to paste stuff.

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1 hour ago, billvon said:

No, it's not - but it's strongly discouraged.  The actual phrasing we use is "At the very least, the person should make a comment in relation to the wall of text they've copied and posted so we know where the poster himself stands in relationship to it."  So that fulfills the minimums we're asking for.

Needless to say it's not ideal.  This is a discussion forum, not a place to paste stuff.

Well, I could have paraphrased it, but it would not have been as good as the original, in addition to taking a lot of time for no gain.

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16 minutes ago, kallend said:

Well, I could have paraphrased it, but it would not have been as good as the original, in addition to taking a lot of time for no gain.

Then why not just post your comments on it and then post a link to it?  Like this:

"These are Twitter style arguments for voting for Biden from the Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/10/20/case-against-trump-600-all-caps-words-35-exclamation-points/"

Shorter and just as effective.

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29 minutes ago, billvon said:

Then why not just post your comments on it and then post a link to it?  Like this:

"These are Twitter style arguments for voting for Biden from the Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/10/20/case-against-trump-600-all-caps-words-35-exclamation-points/"

Shorter and just as effective.

Except for paywalls.

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On 10/22/2020 at 11:05 AM, kallend said:

Shamelessly stolen from Dana Milbank.  All CAPS with exclamation points, so even Trumpists can relate.

LETTING 220,000 AMERICANS DIE FROM COVID-19 — WORST IN WORLD. VOTE!

LOSING 3.9 MILLION JOBS IN FOUR YEARS — WORST IN RECORDED HISTORY. VOTE!

 

KNOWING PANDEMIC WAS “DEADLY STUFF” ON FEB. 7 BUT OPTING TO “PLAY IT DOWN” AND MISLEAD AMERICANS. VOTE!

PROPOSING BLEACH AS A COVID CURE, MOCKING MASK-WEARING, HOSTING WHITE HOUSE SUPERSPREADER EVENT AND SUGGESTING ANTHONY FAUCI IS AN “IDIOT.” VOTE!

ADDING $7 TRILLION TO FEDERAL DEBT, MAKING IT LARGER THAN U.S. ECONOMY FOR FIRST TIME IN 70 YEARS. VOTE!

BALLOONING CURRENT BUDGET DEFICIT TO ALL-TIME RECORD $3.1 TRILLION. VOTE!

ENDING HEALTH COVERAGE FOR MILLIONS AND SUING TO ELIMINATE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, INCLUDING PREEXISTING-CONDITION PROTECTIONS. VOTE!

 

VIOLENTLY DISPERSING PEACEFUL CIVIL RIGHTS PROTESTERS OUTSIDE WHITE HOUSE FOR A BIBLE-WIELDING PHOTO OP. VOTE!

PROPOSING TO POSTPONE THE ELECTION, TRYING TO DISCREDIT MAIL-IN VOTING AS FRAUDULENT AND REFUSING TO COMMIT TO PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER. VOTE!

 

DEFENDING DEADLY VIOLENCE BY WHITE-SUPREMACIST SUPPORTERS AND WINKING AT MILITIA PLOT TO KIDNAP MICHIGAN GOVERNOR. VOTE!

SEEING “VERY FINE PEOPLE” AMONG VIOLENT NEO-NAZIS IN CHARLOTTESVILLE. VOTE!

VALIDATING A CONSPIRACY THEORY ABOUT PEDOPHILE RING CONTROLLING U.S. GOVERNMENT. VOTE!

CALLING SWATHS OF AFRICA AND CARIBBEAN “SHITHOLE COUNTRIES” AND TRYING TO BAN ENTRY FROM MUSLIM-MAJORITY NATIONS. VOTE!

 

TAKING MIGRANT CHILDREN FROM PARENTS AND LOCKING THEM IN CAGES. VOTE!

FALLING “IN LOVE” WITH NORTH KOREAN DICTATOR KIM JONG UN. VOTE!

SIDING WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN OVER U.S. INTELLIGENCE ON ELECTION INTERFERENCE. VOTE!

GETTING IMPEACHED FOR WITHHOLDING MILITARY AID FROM A VULNERABLE ALLY TO EXTORT CAMPAIGN HELP. VOTE!

EXCUSING SAUDI PRINCE’S DISMEMBERMENT OF U.S.-BASED JOURNALIST AND ADOPTING JOSEPH STALIN’S “ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE” PHRASE FOR AMERICAN MEDIA. VOTE!

 

APPEASING THE TALIBAN AND ABANDONING KURDISH ALLIES IN SYRIA. VOTE!

PRAISING “VERY GOOD FRIEND” XI JINPING FOR HANDLING OF CORONAVIRUS AND TRANSPARENCY. VOTE!

SHOVING A PRIME MINISTER AND PUBLICLY DISPARAGING LEADERS OF FRANCE, GERMANY, BRITAIN AND EVEN DENMARK BECAUSE GREENLAND WASN’T FOR SALE. VOTE!

 

BELITTLING “LOSERS” AND “SUCKERS” WHO DIED FOR OUR COUNTRY, POSTHUMOUSLY INSULTING JOHN MCCAIN, SKIPPING MEMORIALS FOR THE FALLEN AND DERIDING TOP GENERALS AS WAR PROFITEERS. VOTE!

ADMITTING TO PAYING OFF A PORN ACTRESS FOR SILENCE ABOUT AN AFFAIR, OFFERING KIND WORDS FOR CHARGED CHILD-SEX TRAFFICKER, AND TALKING ABOUT WOMEN AS “BLEEDING,” “DOG” AND “MONSTER.” VOTE!

ENRICHING HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY BY FORCING TAXPAYERS AND TRYING TO FORCE FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS TO SPEND MILLIONS AT HIS PROPERTIES. VOTE!

 

PAYING ONLY $750 IN FEDERAL INCOME TAXES IN 2016 AND IN 2017 AND PERSONALLY OWING $400 MILLION TO UNKNOWN CREDITORS. VOTE!

HAVING HIS FORMER CAMPAIGN CHAIRMAN, PERSONAL LAWYER, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, CHIEF STRATEGIST AND AT LEAST SIX OTHER CLOSE AIDES ARRESTED OR CONVICTED. VOTE!

 

USING THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND PRESIDENTIAL POWERS TO COMMUTE AND REDUCE SENTENCES OR DROP CHARGES AGAINST FRIENDS AND TO HARASS CRITICS. VOTE!

BEING PROTECTED BY POLITICAL APPOINTEES AFTER SPECIAL COUNSEL FINDS EVIDENCE OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. VOTE!

USING THE PRESIDENCY TO MAKE MORE THAN 20,000 FALSE OR DUBIOUS STATEMENTS, TO INSULT PEOPLE BY THE HUNDREDS AND TO TRASH INTERNATIONAL COOPERATION ON CLIMATE, TRADE, HEALTH AND SECURITY. VOTE!

INDUCING THE LONGEST GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN IN HISTORY, THEN DECLARING FAKE EMERGENCY TO SPEND MONEY WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL. VOTE!

 

SUFFERING TURNOVER OF 90 PERCENT AMONG CABINET AND TOP WHITE HOUSE STAFF, AND NOW ON FOURTH CHIEF OF STAFF, FOURTH PRESS SECRETARY, SIXTH COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR AND FOURTH NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER. VOTE!

 

FIGHTING IN COURTS TO DISCOURAGE MINORITIES FROM VOTING AND PARTICIPATING IN THE CENSUS AND DESECRATING RUTH BADER GINSBURG’S DEATH BY ATTACKING HER GRANDDAUGHTER AND RUSHING A REPLACEMENT BEFORE FUNERAL. VOTE!

MAKING THE WORDS “MOTHERF-----,” “BULL----,” “ASS.,” “SON OF A BITCH,” “HAMBERDER,” “SMOCKING GUN” AND “COVFEFE” PART OF NATIONAL DISCOURSE. VOTE!

SABOTAGING THE POSTAL SERVICE FOR ELECTORAL GAIN, ROUTINELY ACCUSING OPPONENTS OF TREASON AND USING A SHARPIE TO REDRAW A HURRICANE FORECAST MAP. VOTE!

THINKING FREDERICK DOUGLASS ALIVE, FINLAND PART OF RUSSIA, BRITAIN NOT YET A NUCLEAR POWER, WINDMILLS CAUSE CANCER AND “RAKING” PREVENTS FOREST FIRES. VOTE!

No need to comment on these items except to say that if you examined your comments to the same level that you expect the other side to examine their comment then some of this wouldn't get posted.

The typical political BS shown below is why Trump got elected.
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6 minutes ago, billeisele said:

No need to comment on these items except to say that if you examined your comments to the same level that you expect the other side to examine their comment then some of this wouldn't get posted.

The typical political BS shown below is why Trump got elected.
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GMO / organic is mostly just a bunch of marketing bullshit anyway. Like organic, grass-fed, all natural, probiotic, Pasture-raised, Free-Range. These are all bullshit terms with no real meaning. Everything you need to know about how healthy a product is right on the nutrition label. Everything else is irrelevent. But here is a quick hint: if it comes in a box it's probably not healthy.

Anyway, there is little evidence that consuming GMO food can harm you. At best it's unclear. I'd say judging based on how most people eat and their total lack of physical exercise, GMO is the last thing they need to be concerned about. It's like 'oh, my double cheeseburger, large fries and XL Coke is not organic and that's harming me!'. Yea ok.

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1 hour ago, billeisele said:

No need to comment on these items except to say that if you examined your comments to the same level that you expect the other side to examine their comment then some of this wouldn't get posted.

The typical political BS shown below is why Trump got elected.

Yeah, but see, what you posted is a lie.  That bill did not "protect companies like Monsanto from having to label their genetically-labeled food."

Why do you think posting lies helps your cause?  Or did you just copy and paste that from a right wing web site without thinking about it?

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10 hours ago, billvon said:

Yeah, but see, what you posted is a lie.  That bill did not "protect companies like Monsanto from having to label their genetically-labeled food."

Why do you think posting lies helps your cause?  Or did you just copy and paste that from a right wing web site without thinking about it?

Was just doing what others do, stirring the pot. The facts are what they are. You calling it a lie doesn't make it a lie. My opinion is he was a terrible president. This is just one example. If having Barrett on the SC worries you because she might be influenced by her religion then surely you don't believe that Taylor was not influenced by his past and his connections in the food industry.


How do you feel about the Biden China stuff?  The evidence provided so far is convincing. If it's true that's a problem. You're a smart guy, surely you can't ignore this stuff. To be fair, Trump has plenty of bad qualities but I don't think he has this big of a problem.

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1 hour ago, billeisele said:

Was just doing what others do, stirring the pot. The facts are what they are. You calling it a lie doesn't make it a lie.

It being a lie is what makes it a lie. But I do agree that all you and your fellow righties seem to have to offer is pot stirring.

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My opinion is he was a terrible president. This is just one example. If having Barrett on the SC worries you because she might be influenced by her religion then surely you don't believe that Taylor was not influenced by his past and his connections in the food industry.

If you think Obama is a terrible President because of one of his cabinet picks coming from Industry then you must think Trump is beyond atrocius. The lists of examples of graft and corruption from his cabinet (let alone himself and his family) is staggering.

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How do you feel about the Biden China stuff?  The evidence provided so far is convincing. If it's true that's a problem. You're a smart guy, surely you can't ignore this stuff. 

Convincing of what? The evidence hasn't shown anything Biden did wrong. It hasn't shown Biden making any money. What specifically has it convinced you of?

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To be fair, Trump has plenty of bad qualities but I don't think he has this big of a problem.

That is, quite frankly, insane. Trump's entire presidency has been characterised by providing opportunities for himself and his family to leverage their official positions, access and influence to enrich themselves.

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1 hour ago, billeisele said:

Was just doing what others do, stirring the pot. The facts are what they are. You calling it a lie doesn't make it a lie.

Right.  The text of the bill is what makes it a lie.  That bill did one thing - if an activist sued a company like Monsanto over their labeling standards, the bill said they could keep selling that crop UNTIL THE CASE IS SETTLED.  Your claim that it protected Monsanto from having to label their food as GMO is false.  It's like someone claiming that the law that requires police to charge someone within 72 hours or release them is a law "to release every rapist in America into your neighborhood."

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My opinion is he was a terrible president.

Then just say that.  All the lies just means no one will take you seriously.

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How do you feel about the Biden China stuff?  The evidence provided so far is convincing. If it's true that's a problem. You're a smart guy, surely you can't ignore this stuff. To be fair, Trump has plenty of bad qualities but I don't think he has this big of a problem.


His daughter sold Chinese shoes from the White House media office.  Trump has millions in a secret account in China.  He got hundreds of millions from the Chinese state bank.  He pays more in taxes to China than he does to the US.  Foreign companies have pumped millions into Trump properties ("pay") so they can get time with the president of the United States ("to play.")  Millions of your tax dollars have been funneled by Trump into his own properties, vastly enriching him.

So no, I don't think the Biden China stuff is worse.  No one can identify a single law Biden broke.  Until they do, it's just another October surprise courtesy of the Ukraine.

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37 minutes ago, billvon said:

Right.  The text of the bill is what makes it a lie.  That bill did one thing - if an activist sued a company like Monsanto over their labeling standards, the bill said they could keep selling that crop UNTIL THE CASE IS SETTLED.  Your claim that it protected Monsanto from having to label their food as GMO is false.  It's like someone claiming that the law that requires police to charge someone within 72 hours or release them is a law "to release every rapist in America into your neighborhood."

Then just say that.  All the lies just means no one will take you seriously.


His daughter sold Chinese shoes from the White House media office.  Trump has millions in a secret account in China.  He got hundreds of millions from the Chinese state bank.  He pays more in taxes to China than he does to the US.  Foreign companies have pumped millions into Trump properties ("pay") so they can get time with the president of the United States ("to play.")  Millions of your tax dollars have been funneled by Trump into his own properties, vastly enriching him.

So no, I don't think the Biden China stuff is worse.  No one can identify a single law Biden broke.  Until they do, it's just another October surprise courtesy of the Ukraine.

It takes little effort to understand many issues today if you start with trusted sources of information. Here is one about the FDA former Monsanto official quoted by billeisele.Its from Food Safety News.

Another from Politico "Taylor’s departure comes at a particularly crucial time for implementing a massive food safety overhaul that he’s championed throughout his tenure in government....Health advocates are hopeful that Ostroff,(THE NEW HIRE replacing Taylor) who has a background in epidemiology, will stay the course on FSMA and other key issues, but just about everyone also acknowledges that Taylor leaves big shoes to fill. Industry leaders, consumer advocates and state officials all reacted to the news with effusive praise of Taylor’s track record."

Stirring the pot by billeisele may be on target. Why would Obama a consumer advocate hire a Monsanto and GMO industry lobbyist to fight against everything he stands for? Its completely counterintuitive. Trump on the other hand has a well established track record of deregulation and incompetent methodology in hiring. Which takes me back to understanding issues. It starts with common sense and reliable sources.

This is what gets trump into so much trouble. He can't resist lying and shooting his mouth off about issues of which he knows nothing about.

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1 hour ago, billvon said:

So no, I don't think the Biden China stuff is worse.  No one can identify a single law Biden broke.  Until they do, it's just another October surprise courtesy of the Ukraine.

Not the Ukraine. They are actually our allies.

The "October Surprise" is courtesy of Russia, Putin, the FSB (KGB) and all the "useful idiots" that are Trump supporters. 

You know, the ones pretending that Obama's few demonstrable lies in some way are as bad as the TENS OF THOUSANDS that Trump has spewed. 

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How do you feel about the Biden China stuff?  The evidence provided so far is convincing. If it's true that's a problem. You're a smart guy, surely you can't ignore this stuff. To be fair, Trump has plenty of bad qualities but I don't think he has this big of a problem.

How do YOU feel about Trump having a (previously) secret Chinese bank account?

How do YOU feel about Trump paying 1000x more tax to China than his income tax to the USA?

How do YOU feel about Trump profiting from payments by government agencies to his hotels and resorts?

How do YOU feel about Trump's children being on the federal payroll despite no expertise in the areas they are supposed to deal with?

How do YOU feel about Trump's foundation being forced by a court to close down on account of  “a shocking pattern of illegality” by its principals (him and his kids)?

How do YOU feel about Trump U being closed and fined $25 Million for FRAUD?

How do YOU feel about Trump's golf outings costing taxpayers over $100 MILLION when he (a) criticized Obama for golfing (who actually played less), and (b) said he would not play golf if elected?

 

 

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On 10/22/2020 at 8:05 AM, kallend said:

Shamelessly stolen from Dana Milbank.  All CAPS with exclamation points, so even Trumpists can relate.

LETTING 220,000 AMERICANS DIE FROM COVID-19 — WORST IN WORLD. VOTE!

LOSING 3.9 MILLION JOBS IN FOUR YEARS — WORST IN RECORDED HISTORY. VOTE!

 

KNOWING PANDEMIC WAS “DEADLY STUFF” ON FEB. 7 BUT OPTING TO “PLAY IT DOWN” AND MISLEAD AMERICANS. VOTE!

PROPOSING BLEACH AS A COVID CURE, MOCKING MASK-WEARING, HOSTING WHITE HOUSE SUPERSPREADER EVENT AND SUGGESTING ANTHONY FAUCI IS AN “IDIOT.” VOTE!

ADDING $7 TRILLION TO FEDERAL DEBT, MAKING IT LARGER THAN U.S. ECONOMY FOR FIRST TIME IN 70 YEARS. VOTE!

BALLOONING CURRENT BUDGET DEFICIT TO ALL-TIME RECORD $3.1 TRILLION. VOTE!

ENDING HEALTH COVERAGE FOR MILLIONS AND SUING TO ELIMINATE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, INCLUDING PREEXISTING-CONDITION PROTECTIONS. VOTE!

 

VIOLENTLY DISPERSING PEACEFUL CIVIL RIGHTS PROTESTERS OUTSIDE WHITE HOUSE FOR A BIBLE-WIELDING PHOTO OP. VOTE!

PROPOSING TO POSTPONE THE ELECTION, TRYING TO DISCREDIT MAIL-IN VOTING AS FRAUDULENT AND REFUSING TO COMMIT TO PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER. VOTE!

 

DEFENDING DEADLY VIOLENCE BY WHITE-SUPREMACIST SUPPORTERS AND WINKING AT MILITIA PLOT TO KIDNAP MICHIGAN GOVERNOR. VOTE!

SEEING “VERY FINE PEOPLE” AMONG VIOLENT NEO-NAZIS IN CHARLOTTESVILLE. VOTE!

VALIDATING A CONSPIRACY THEORY ABOUT PEDOPHILE RING CONTROLLING U.S. GOVERNMENT. VOTE!

CALLING SWATHS OF AFRICA AND CARIBBEAN “SHITHOLE COUNTRIES” AND TRYING TO BAN ENTRY FROM MUSLIM-MAJORITY NATIONS. VOTE!

 

TAKING MIGRANT CHILDREN FROM PARENTS AND LOCKING THEM IN CAGES. VOTE!

FALLING “IN LOVE” WITH NORTH KOREAN DICTATOR KIM JONG UN. VOTE!

SIDING WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN OVER U.S. INTELLIGENCE ON ELECTION INTERFERENCE. VOTE!

GETTING IMPEACHED FOR WITHHOLDING MILITARY AID FROM A VULNERABLE ALLY TO EXTORT CAMPAIGN HELP. VOTE!

EXCUSING SAUDI PRINCE’S DISMEMBERMENT OF U.S.-BASED JOURNALIST AND ADOPTING JOSEPH STALIN’S “ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE” PHRASE FOR AMERICAN MEDIA. VOTE!

 

APPEASING THE TALIBAN AND ABANDONING KURDISH ALLIES IN SYRIA. VOTE!

PRAISING “VERY GOOD FRIEND” XI JINPING FOR HANDLING OF CORONAVIRUS AND TRANSPARENCY. VOTE!

SHOVING A PRIME MINISTER AND PUBLICLY DISPARAGING LEADERS OF FRANCE, GERMANY, BRITAIN AND EVEN DENMARK BECAUSE GREENLAND WASN’T FOR SALE. VOTE!

 

BELITTLING “LOSERS” AND “SUCKERS” WHO DIED FOR OUR COUNTRY, POSTHUMOUSLY INSULTING JOHN MCCAIN, SKIPPING MEMORIALS FOR THE FALLEN AND DERIDING TOP GENERALS AS WAR PROFITEERS. VOTE!

ADMITTING TO PAYING OFF A PORN ACTRESS FOR SILENCE ABOUT AN AFFAIR, OFFERING KIND WORDS FOR CHARGED CHILD-SEX TRAFFICKER, AND TALKING ABOUT WOMEN AS “BLEEDING,” “DOG” AND “MONSTER.” VOTE!

ENRICHING HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY BY FORCING TAXPAYERS AND TRYING TO FORCE FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS TO SPEND MILLIONS AT HIS PROPERTIES. VOTE!

 

PAYING ONLY $750 IN FEDERAL INCOME TAXES IN 2016 AND IN 2017 AND PERSONALLY OWING $400 MILLION TO UNKNOWN CREDITORS. VOTE!

HAVING HIS FORMER CAMPAIGN CHAIRMAN, PERSONAL LAWYER, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, CHIEF STRATEGIST AND AT LEAST SIX OTHER CLOSE AIDES ARRESTED OR CONVICTED. VOTE!

 

USING THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND PRESIDENTIAL POWERS TO COMMUTE AND REDUCE SENTENCES OR DROP CHARGES AGAINST FRIENDS AND TO HARASS CRITICS. VOTE!

BEING PROTECTED BY POLITICAL APPOINTEES AFTER SPECIAL COUNSEL FINDS EVIDENCE OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. VOTE!

USING THE PRESIDENCY TO MAKE MORE THAN 20,000 FALSE OR DUBIOUS STATEMENTS, TO INSULT PEOPLE BY THE HUNDREDS AND TO TRASH INTERNATIONAL COOPERATION ON CLIMATE, TRADE, HEALTH AND SECURITY. VOTE!

INDUCING THE LONGEST GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN IN HISTORY, THEN DECLARING FAKE EMERGENCY TO SPEND MONEY WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL. VOTE!

 

SUFFERING TURNOVER OF 90 PERCENT AMONG CABINET AND TOP WHITE HOUSE STAFF, AND NOW ON FOURTH CHIEF OF STAFF, FOURTH PRESS SECRETARY, SIXTH COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR AND FOURTH NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER. VOTE!

 

FIGHTING IN COURTS TO DISCOURAGE MINORITIES FROM VOTING AND PARTICIPATING IN THE CENSUS AND DESECRATING RUTH BADER GINSBURG’S DEATH BY ATTACKING HER GRANDDAUGHTER AND RUSHING A REPLACEMENT BEFORE FUNERAL. VOTE!

MAKING THE WORDS “MOTHERF-----,” “BULL----,” “ASS.,” “SON OF A BITCH,” “HAMBERDER,” “SMOCKING GUN” AND “COVFEFE” PART OF NATIONAL DISCOURSE. VOTE!

SABOTAGING THE POSTAL SERVICE FOR ELECTORAL GAIN, ROUTINELY ACCUSING OPPONENTS OF TREASON AND USING A SHARPIE TO REDRAW A HURRICANE FORECAST MAP. VOTE!

THINKING FREDERICK DOUGLASS ALIVE, FINLAND PART OF RUSSIA, BRITAIN NOT YET A NUCLEAR POWER, WINDMILLS CAUSE CANCER AND “RAKING” PREVENTS FOREST FIRES. VOTE!

WQW so much to unpack, so many false narratives like a puppet on strings. 

 

 

The Russian bots are coming with a disinformation campaign designed to seal the election from good ole Joe.

I have inside info from my local elected official Rep.Adam Shift for brains himself, he still doesn't know who the whistle blower is.

 

Edited by richravizza
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1 minute ago, richravizza said:

WQW so much to unpack, so many false narratives like a puppet on strings. 

None are false, sorry. They even all have links you can click to see the facts behind them.  Most of those facts come from Trump's own tweets - so it's going to be really hard for you to call them liberal lies.

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3 hours ago, billeisele said:

Was just doing what others do, stirring the pot. The facts are what they are. You calling it a lie doesn't make it a lie. My opinion is he was a terrible president. This is just one example. If having Barrett on the SC worries you because she might be influenced by her religion then surely you don't believe that Taylor was not influenced by his past and his connections in the food industry.


How do you feel about the Biden China stuff?  The evidence provided so far is convincing. If it's true that's a problem. You're a smart guy, surely you can't ignore this stuff. To be fair, Trump has plenty of bad qualities but I don't think he has this big of a problem.

Do you watch Fox News? Great bunch, they are. Even they say there is nothing there.

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Your a tool then, sorry to be so blunt.

You have no Ideas what the silent majority is about to do to your reality.

Since were both in SoCal I've got an Experiment for you, actually Bill,I dare you.

 Put a Trump Flag over your solar array.See what Happens.Put a Trump sticker on your Tesla see what happens.

As I drive down the freeway I just figure every car without a sticker is the silent supporter.So much for the liberal idea of freedom of speech, to prove my point..

We can go to N Hollywood have some sushi saki and a couple beers all on me.

We'll both dress up in Pink Toto's and walk the streets we'll have a blast.On the way back I'll put a red hat on your head and we'll see how the rest of the night goes.

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Putting a flag over a solar array kind of ruins the point, doesn't it?

And shouldn't the truth of something be addressed, or is this a post-truth society (of course, some said that the election of Obama should mean the US was now a post-racial society).

Wendy P.

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