turtlespeed 212 #251 October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: That is the suggestion. In the mean time, in the real world, with actual evidence, you had the Secretary of Commerce on the board of directors of a Chinese company while negotiating trade agreements with China. That actually happened. Funny enough you don't care about what happened. You care about what some guy says may potentially happen if only his dog hadn't eaten his homework..... You should have read just a bit further. The same thing That Trump is being vilified for potentially having money being loaned by Russia. Biden is potentially the recipient of the same kind of deal, only from the Chinese. You just like this shiester better. Its a pretty hypocritical way for the left to think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,098 #252 October 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: But yes, clearly the magical hard drive found by the blind guy and given to Giuliani with the documents subsequently lost, but then again found, but really not yet produced. That is the damning stuff. Not even Fox is pushing this fantasy...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 460 #253 October 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Are you guys going to black ball ABC now? Wow, you must be really desperate for an October surprise, with 4 days left. No sources, no independent confirmation, and Hunter's not running for president. 2 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: You just like this shiester better. Its a pretty hypocritical way for the left to think. Again, needs proving and many of us are on record saying otherwise. Even Fox won't publish this crap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,289 #254 October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: The same thing That Trump is being vilified for potentially having money being loaned by Russia. Biden is potentially the recipient of the same kind of deal, only from the Chinese. Russia did loan Trump Org money. One of the Trump kids is on video stating that. Trump is paying taxes in China, that would only be happening if he is making money in China. Biden has all his tax records out in the open. Feel free to look for money from China. This is really on hypocritical if you think they are equivalent. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to think this is all equivalent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,289 #255 October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Not even Fox is pushing this fantasy...... That is exactly what Fox is pushing. At least what Tucker is pushing. But then Fox also won a lawsuit by arguing no sane person would believe Tucker Carlson, so there is that..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,098 #256 October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, SkyDekker said: This is really on hypocritical if you think they are equivalent. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to think this is all equivalent. Or, just a troll baiting you. Again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 460 #257 October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, SkyDekker said: Biden has all his tax records out in the open. Feel free to look for money from China. But Trump also has published his tax retur- oh wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,289 #258 October 30, 2020 Just now, gowlerk said: Or, just a troll baiting you. Again. I am responding to you.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,098 #259 October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, SkyDekker said: That is exactly what Fox is pushing. I just looked at the Fox main page. They do not seem to be pushing it. Although I'm sure you could find some mentions if you dig. https://www.foxnews.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,289 #260 October 30, 2020 Just now, gowlerk said: I just looked at the Fox main page. They do not seem to be pushing it. Although I'm sure you could find some mentions if you dig. https://www.foxnews.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,098 #261 October 30, 2020 Just now, SkyDekker said: I am responding to you.... Am I was responding you you responding to the troll. Around and around I go circling the drain. Again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,098 #262 October 30, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: That is not much of a push. It's a nibble around the edges because they know the story is no good, but they can't completely ignore it. A push would be a story on the main section with an accusation against Joe, like the troll seems to be making here. Edited October 30, 2020 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,343 #263 October 30, 2020 53 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Back to Hunter and his Father - I wonder if you know that you are just trying to exchange one Grifter for another. 'Know'? You, of all people, are going to use the word 'know'? Bobulinski has provided zero public evidence of any of his accusations against Joe Biden. He says the evidence exists but where is it? Why is it secret? You are the most laughable of partisan right wing hypocrites to suggest we are in a position to 'know' Biden has done anything wrong in this regard. Quote Are you guys going to black ball ABC now? No, Sinclair. It's right there in the paragraph you quoted. Duh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,732 #264 October 30, 2020 So to get back to boring old reality for a second: Trump borrowed a hundred million or so from Russia six years ago. In 2014 Trump talked to James Dodson while golfing. Dodson asked if he was having trouble getting loans for his golf courses and Trump said that he "had access to $100 million." Later Dodson asked Eric Trump who was providing that, because American banks were leery of lending to golf courses. Eric Trump said "well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia . . We’ve got some guys that really, really love golf, and they’re really invested in our programs. We just go there all the time.’" So Trump got 100 million or so from Russia and there are guys there "really invested" in his business. Trump borrowed over 200 million from the Chinese state bank. Trump pulled off a "$950 million refinancing deal in 2012, to which the Bank of China chipped in $211 million" on his deal for 1290 Avenue of the Americas. So when I see stories on right wing media screaming "HUNTER BIDEN INVOLVED WITH CHINA" because he was part of an oil company deal with China that . . . failed - I have to laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #265 October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: Back to Hunter and his Father - I wonder if you know that you are just trying to exchange one Grifter for another. Looks like Joe wasn't as truthful as he would have us believe. https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/tony-bobulinksi-i-have-now-put-myself-in-huge-risk-for-the-sake-of-the-american-people Are you guys going to black ball ABC now? Then there is this in the article: It was on that night the former business associate of Hunter Biden claimed Democratic nominee Joe Biden knew about his son taking payments from Chinese and Ukrainian companies and strongly suggested he got a kickback. Bobulinksi discussed why he feels if elected, Biden would be compromised by the Chinese government and much more in an exclusive interview with Rosen. The compromise they have is that in documents that have been well provided to the Senate, to Congress, to the Department of Justice via the FBI that CEFC was effectively loaning money directly to the Biden family. Please. If this was a story worth a shit it would be front and centre on the drudge report. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,343 #266 October 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: The same thing That Trump is being vilified for potentially having money being loaned by Russia. He was potentially loaned money by Russia, but he was really, definitely, undeniably loaned money by China. Cue your outrage in 3,2,1... oh I forgot, hypocrite fanboys like you will always find a justification for anything he does. Quote Biden is potentially the recipient of the same kind of deal, only from the Chinese. Potentially because he's being accused by a guy who is working with the Trump campaign. Do you see the issue there? Do you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,564 #267 October 31, 2020 3 hours ago, jakee said: He was potentially loaned money by Russia, but he was really, definitely, undeniably loaned money by China. Cue your outrage in 3,2,1... oh I forgot, hypocrite fanboys like you will always find a justification for anything he does. Potentially because he's being accused by a guy who is working with the Trump campaign. Do you see the issue there? Do you? Jesus, Mary and Joseph, Jakee, have you no other occupation than waiting for Turtle to poke his head out of his shell? Give it a rest and us a break, please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,822 #268 October 31, 2020 Looks like Tucker C. is backing off now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,098 #269 October 31, 2020 It's funny how the R supporters just seem to know that leaders are lying scheming thieves. They have been taught to believe that by someone, somewhere, somehow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,732 #270 October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, kallend said: Looks like Tucker C. is backing off now. Yep. And he found those super incriminating documents, but . . . . now he's saying there's an "awful lot of documents" and he's "still assessing." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #271 October 31, 2020 3 hours ago, billvon said: Yep. And he found those super incriminating documents, but . . . . now he's saying there's an "awful lot of documents" and he's "still assessing." FBI now actively investigating https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-investigating-hunter-biden-money-222323906.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,822 #272 October 31, 2020 50 minutes ago, markharju said: FBI now actively investigating https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-investigating-hunter-biden-money-222323906.html Pulling the same trick as they did before the 2016 election. Lame. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,343 #273 October 31, 2020 11 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Jesus, Mary and Joseph, Jakee, have you no other occupation than waiting for Turtle to poke his head out of his shell? Give it a rest and us a break, please. I’m sorry, did I get in the way of your productive, on topic contributions? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,289 #274 October 31, 2020 4 hours ago, markharju said: FBI now actively investigating https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-investigating-hunter-biden-money-222323906.html Of course Donald Trump himself was designated Individual 1 in an actual criminal sentencing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 460 #275 October 31, 2020 5 hours ago, markharju said: FBI now actively investigating https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-investigating-hunter-biden-money-222323906.html They've been investigating since 2019 and so far, no charges. If there was any evidence they should bring charges, no? They should probably do it soon. Trump should have AG Barr bring the charges ASAP, 3 days left! No? Then STFU. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites