turtlespeed 212 #1 Posted October 14, 2020 https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8838939/Joe-Biden-met-son-Hunters-Ukrainian-energy-contacts.html “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure,” I thought Biden said he didn't have anything to with his son's Ukrainian connections. ""The Biden campaign did not respond to five requests for comment from The Post before publication of the initial account. The candidate himself declared an early-morning lid Wednesday, meaning he will have no public events."" Interesting. I'm interested to see what the Biden apologists come up with on this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 473 #2 October 14, 2020 Right wing repeater is right on time Were your posts kicked off Facebook or Twitter? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/facebook-twitter-biden-trump-election-2020-b1041272.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,395 #3 October 14, 2020 33 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I'm interested to see what the Biden apologists come up with on this. Interesting how you have already assumed anything in that story is true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 473 #4 October 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Interesting how you have already assumed anything in that story is true. But but but...it's the NEW biggest political scandal in HISTORY! After this previous biggest scandal in history: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=933124643889385 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #5 October 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Interesting how you have already assumed anything in that story is true. The Biden Camp has not denied anything. The email evidence seems to be pretty overwhelming. I do think it's kind of convenient, if not suspicious, that a laptop was recovered from a repair shop, and all this came to light because of that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,139 #6 October 14, 2020 trump's lapdog Barr has had 18 months to investigate yet instead he's turned the DOJ after Omarosa. Too bad trump's lapdogs hide everywhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #7 October 14, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, olofscience said: Right wing repeater is right on time Were your posts kicked off Facebook or Twitter? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/facebook-twitter-biden-trump-election-2020-b1041272.html You think the NYP is lying? I wonder how much fact checking, and limiting of the spread of the story, would be going on if the news broke and it was Trump's name in the headline. Edited October 14, 2020 by turtlespeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,139 #8 October 14, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: You think the NYP is lying? "In 1976, Rupert Murdoch, the owner of News Corp, acquired The New York Post ...The Post has been known for its over-the-top sensational headlines." According to an LA Times article, the New York Post was reported to be the preferred newspaper of U.S. President Donald Trump, who maintains frequent contact with its owner, Rupert Murdoch. The Post, According to a survey conducted by Pace University in 2004, was rated the least-credible major news outlet in New York. Further, The Post has been criticized since the beginning of Murdoch’s ownership for “sensationalism, blatant advocacy, and conservative bias.” Edited October 15, 2020 by Phil1111 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 473 #9 October 15, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: You think the NYP is lying? It wouldn't be a first. 7 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: The email evidence seems to be pretty overwhelming. So you're an expert journalist/IT expert now? Tell us more about email forensics and how it was verified to be true from multiple verified sources edit: that Facebook and Twitter's independent fact checkers couldn't verify, that the campaign denied, but to you is overwhelming Edited October 15, 2020 by olofscience Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,395 #10 October 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: You think the NYP is lying? Yes. Or at least not questioning or verifying any information. 6 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: The Biden Camp has not denied anything. You have not denied beating your wife. When did you stop beating your wife turtle? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #11 October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Phil1111 said: "In 1976, Rupert Murdoch, the owner of News Corp, acquired The New York Post ...The Post has been known for its over-the-top sensational headlines." So what is false about the expose then? Are the pictures false? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #12 October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, SkyDekker said: Yes. Or at least not questioning or verifying any information. You have not denied beating your wife. When did you stop beating your wife turtle? Right after you did. OH yeah - I don't have a wife. What evidence do you have to think its a lie, or that it wasn't verified? Or is it just feels? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #13 October 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, olofscience said: It wouldn't be a first. So you're an expert journalist/IT expert now? Tell us more about email forensics and how it was verified to be true from multiple verified sources edit: that Facebook and Twitter's independent fact checkers couldn't verify, that the campaign denied, but to you is overwhelming Just as much as you are to say it isn't true, eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #14 October 15, 2020 Just now, turtlespeed said: Just as much as you are to say it isn't true, eh? Enough about me, though - If you can't defend against the info - attack the poster, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 473 #15 October 15, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Enough about me, though - If you can't defend against the info - attack the poster, right? Again, the burden of proof is on the accuser. It's not guilty until proven innocent - the so-called "evidence" needs to be verified independently, and it hasn't so far. So I don't have to prove or defend anything. But you're really committed to this, it's cute must be mourning the demise of the "unmasking" scandal... Edited October 15, 2020 by olofscience Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #16 October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, olofscience said: Again, the burden of proof is on the accuser. It's not guilty until proven innocent - the so-called "evidence" needs to be verified independently, and it hasn't so far. So I don't have to prove or defend anything. But you're really committed to this, it's cute must be mourning the demise of the "unmasking" scandal... You must be really, actually, praying that it isn't true. OK - so what is your theory of where the info came from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #17 October 15, 2020 Until the Pentagon issues an official denial, I must assume they killed a body double, not Osama Bin Laden. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,395 #18 October 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: You must be really, actually, praying that it isn't true. That what isn't true? What do you think is the actual problem here? What do you think is the premise of the story? Let's assume the story isn't made up, but is all true. Do you think Joe Biden interfered to help Burisma? What is it you think happened? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 473 #19 October 15, 2020 Just now, turtlespeed said: You must be really, actually, praying that it isn't true. OK - so what is your theory of where the info came from? One - I don't pray Two - I'm not even American, I am just watching with amusement as Trump's chances deteriorate. Three - this shows how little respect you have for actual journalism. They have to verify sources, anonymise them if necessary, and do a lot of work that can be cross-checked and verified. There are those that don't do it, but usually they are fired and go to work for the Daily Mail to make shit up. Four - it's actually getting painfully obvious that it's you who's getting worked up with this. I don't give a shit, I'll let people verify it or not before drawing any conclusions. You, on the other hand, are neck deep in it. Because you WANT to believe, desperately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,395 #20 October 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: The Biden Camp has not denied anything. Except they have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 473 #21 October 15, 2020 26 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: The Biden Camp has not denied anything. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/us/politics/hunter-biden-ukraine.html You must be panicking now to miss something like this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 330 #22 October 15, 2020 39 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: trump's lapdog Barr has had 18 months to investigate yet instead he's turned the DOJ after Omarosa. Too bad trump's lapdogs hide everywhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,156 #23 October 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, olofscience said: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/us/politics/hunter-biden-ukraine.html You must be panicking now to miss something like this. Are we getting more balanced and fair unbiased items dumped on us that I am missing? Pity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #24 October 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, olofscience said: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/us/politics/hunter-biden-ukraine.html You must be panicking now to miss something like this. They released a statement that they may have met. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,395 #25 October 15, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: What evidence do you have to think its a lie, or that it wasn't verified? Or is it just feels? Well the repair shop guy doesn't know who dropped off the laptop Doesn't know who it belongs to or how it got there Assumed it was Hunter Biden's because there as a Beau Biden sticker on it Somehow decided to break the law and copy data from it Then decided to get in touch with Rudy Giuliani first FBI isn't confirming this story lady who is the lead reporter in this story has only published three stories for the NYP, all today. She was a Hannity segment booker before this "new gig". it is exactly a day after it becomes clear the unmasking and Durham investigation will not produce the wanted October surprise. The prosecutor was fired for NOT investigating Burisma. That is the prosecutor Biden 9and the rest of the world) wanted fired. This then caused an actual investigation of Burisma, where Hunter Biden worked. Nothing adds up, absolutely nothing. So I guess it makes sense you believe it. Edited October 15, 2020 by SkyDekker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites