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8 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Trump, gave voice to the disaffected and disrespected working class, the guys who work with their hands M-F, take their kids hunting and fishing, coach little league on Saturday and go to church on Sunday. Obama called them “bitter clingers” and HRC called them “irredeemable” and “a basket of deplorables”   The Ds abandoned the hard hats and embraced Globalists,  Antifa, BLM, illegal immigrants, snowflakes and the LGTBQABCDEVFG community.  Long after Trump is gone, those guys will still be there and they will have to be reckoned with, not dismissed.

Oh Brent, democrats aren't conspiring against the white mid-west nuclear family.

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28 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Trump, gave voice to the disaffected and disrespected working class, 

Trump gave voice to whatever audience he was speaking to at the time.  His actions, however, showed that all he really cares about are himself and the very wealthy.

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1 minute ago, kallend said:

Trump gave voice to whatever audience he was speaking to at the time.  His actions, however, showed that all he really cares about are himself and the very wealthy.

Trump is a Rorschach test, people see in him what they want. Just like Obama.

 

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5 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Trump is a Rorschach test, people see in him what they want. Just like Obama.

You realise how completely you just repudiated your previous post about the difference between them, yes?

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7 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Trump, gave voice to the disaffected and disrespected working class, the guys who work with their hands M-F, take their kids hunting and fishing, coach little league on Saturday and go to church on Sunday. Obama called them “bitter clingers” and HRC called them “irredeemable” and “a basket of deplorables”   The Ds abandoned the hard hats and embraced Globalists,  Antifa, BLM, illegal immigrants, snowflakes and the LGTBQABCDEVFG community.  Long after Trump is gone, those guys will still be there and they will have to be reckoned with, not dismissed.

Yeah, but see, what's been happening is those guys are changing.


That guy who took his daughter fishing?  Turns out his daughter is one of those "LGTBQABCDEVFG" types that you (and Trump) despise.  So he's voting for the party that doesn't mock and exclude them.

That guy with the hard hat?  He got a promotion and is now working with his company's construction office in Canada.  So suddenly he's a globalist - and he's voting for the party that supports his job.

That church the guy goes to?  Turns out the priest has been having his way with little boys, and he's not feeling so enthused about going to that church any more.  So he's starting to question the whole "moral majority" "religious right" thing.

That little league coach?  He just found out that one of his former outfielders was raped a few years after she left his team - and no one believes her; the politician who raped her is saying "there's no proof!"  "I've never seen her before in my life."  "If she'd really been raped, she would have gone to the cops the very next day."  And so these days he's thinking about voting for the party that supports the "me too" movement.

Life experiences have a way of changing you.  And while they do indeed sometimes turn people into deplorables, more and more often people are learning from them and deciding that things should change.

 

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12 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Trump, gave voice to the disaffected and disrespected working class, the guys who work with their hands M-F, take their kids hunting and fishing, coach little league on Saturday and go to church on Sunday. Obama called them “bitter clingers” and HRC called them “irredeemable” and “a basket of deplorables”   The Ds abandoned the hard hats and embraced Globalists,  Antifa, BLM, illegal immigrants, snowflakes and the LGTBQABCDEVFG community.  Long after Trump is gone, those guys will still be there and they will have to be reckoned with, not dismissed.

True.

There are now more than 240,000 dead Americans who clearly symbolize the problem of having their mindset lead a country. Turns out running a country isn't as easy as putting memes together.

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8 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

True.

There are now more than 240,000 dead Americans who clearly symbolize the problem of having their mindset lead a country. Turns out running a country isn't as easy as putting memes together.

 

5 hours ago, billvon said:

Yeah, but see, what's been happening is those guys are changing.


That guy who took his daughter fishing?  Turns out his daughter is one of those "LGTBQABCDEVFG" types that you (and Trump) despise.  So he's voting for the party that doesn't mock and exclude them.

That guy with the hard hat?  He got a promotion and is now working with his company's construction office in Canada.  So suddenly he's a globalist - and he's voting for the party that supports his job.
 

And that is why Biden won in a landslide, the Ds took control of the Senate and expanded their margin in the House of Representatives.

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1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

 

And that is why Biden won in a landslide, the Ds took control of the Senate and expanded their margin in the House of Representatives.

Yep, I'm waiting on the lecture on the accuracy of the polls and how anyone that didn't believe them is challenged.by math.

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28 minutes ago, billeisele said:

Yep, I'm waiting on the lecture on the accuracy of the polls and how anyone that didn't believe them is challenged.by math.

Interestingly, and it's completely understandable, a lot of folks were too embarrassed to admit they were voting for Trump even to a stranger on the phone.

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34 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Interestingly, and it's completely understandable, a lot of folks were too embarrassed to admit they were voting for Trump even to a stranger on the phone.

Hi Joe,

I was just thinking the same thing today.  You'll vote for Trump but you won't tell anyone. 

Strange world we live in.

Jerry Baumchen

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1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

Interestingly, and it's completely understandable, a lot of folks were too embarrassed to admit they were voting for Trump even to a stranger on the phone.

I'd like to see statistics on what percentage of R and D voters actually voted.  I think that fear may have driven the R's to show up, more than ending crazy drove the D's to show up.

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3 hours ago, brenthutch said:

 

And that is why Biden won in a landslide, the Ds took control of the Senate and expanded their margin in the House of Representatives.

He did. More than 50% of the vote. More than 4 million votes more than Trump. More votes then any presidential candidate ever before. 
 

If it wasn’t for a tradition steeped in racism, this wouldn’t be close. 

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48 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Then how do you account for Obama or Tim Scott (a black man representing SC in the heart of tho old confederacy) for that matter.

Good point. Some in the GOP used Obama's color as they used Hillary to sow division and tribalism. I see tribalism in the broad brush some democrat supporters paint all trump voters as racists. Poland is in the same anti-populist battle as America is right now.

The GOP needs new leaders now. They need to put trump in his rightful place in American history, jail. John Kasich, Mitt Romney, etc. need to put the boots to trump's ass. Then take back the republican party.

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1 minute ago, JoeWeber said:

... I'm putting my hopes on Letita James and the SDNY.

Yes, and yes. While trump hires thousands of lawyers to smear American democracy. To crush a legitimate democratic freedom. The SDNY patriots will be toiling late each night. Crafting the briefs and affidavits  for the USSC which the orange fool believes is in his back pocket. He will learn it doesn't work that way.

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3 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Yes, and yes. While trump hires thousands of lawyers to smear American democracy. To crush a legitimate democratic freedom. The SDNY patriots will be toiling late each night. Crafting the briefs and affidavits  for the USSC which the orange fool believes is in his back pocket. He will learn it doesn't work that way.

And....... if the map shakes out as things are trending with 306 Electoral Votes Biden will have bested Trump by 2. That'll stick in his porcine craw like an overcooked McDonalds french fry.

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2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Then how do you account for Obama or Tim Scott (a black man representing SC in the heart of tho old confederacy) for that matter.

The electoral college is the tradition steeped in racism. It is the college established to keep slave owners happy. The US overwhelmingly voted in favour of Biden, there really shouldn't be any discussion.

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36 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

The electoral college is the tradition steeped in racism. It is the college established to keep slave owners happy. The US overwhelmingly voted in favour of Biden, there really shouldn't be any discussion.

There were several reasons for the electoral college, the only one that is relevant today is the protection of smaller states.  If folks don’t like it, change it with a simple constitutional amendment, there really shouldn’t be any discussion. 

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7 hours ago, brenthutch said:

There were several reasons for the electoral college, the only one that is relevant today is the protection of smaller states.  If folks don’t like it, change it with a simple constitutional amendment, there really shouldn’t be any discussion. 

Federalist paper #68 explains the reasons for the EC.  Protecting smaller states is not one of the reasons.

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