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Bill Clinton Went to Jeffrey Epstein's Island With 2 'Young Girls', Virginia Giuffre Says

In 2015, the now-defunct pop-culture and news website Gawker released the flight logbooks for Epstein's Gulfstream and the Lolita Express 727. Clinton is listed as having taken at least 11 flights on the Lolita Express.

Looks like left's hero just might be a pedophile.

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I'm part of the Left. If Clinton comes out as guilty of pedophilia, he's despicable. OK? If it comes out he's creepy, well, I already knew that (my cousin and his wife met him at his inaugurations, and he gavet the wife the creeps when he put his arm around her). But being creepy isn't a disqualification for being President, especially if you're not running on an anti-creepiness platform. Being a pedophile, yes. Being a narcissist, not alone, but what narcissism usually leads to (i.e. toxic all-about-me behavior and administration) is not something I'd ever vote for.

Wendy P.

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1 hour ago, airdvr said:

But..but...Trump.  That didn't take long.

Current president V. past presidents. IMO Clinton should have been thrown out.There is a current scandal in Canada and IMO the current P.M. should also be thrown out.

If evidence comes forth about sex with underage women involving Bill. LOCK him up.

In the meantime the history of US presidents goes back along ways if you're looking for more straws.

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2 hours ago, airdvr said:

But..but...Trump.  That didn't take long.

What a tremendous burden it must be for you to still be defending President Trump. You have called yourself a constitutional conservative for decades, but now you sit silently as the president pushes to move this year’s election because he might lose. Even some Republican senators are speaking up. Why aren’t you?

 

Trump remembers how you ran interference for him when he claimed unlimited powers under Article II of the Constitution, so he thinks you will stay quiet. Remember your silence after Charlottesville? You eventually mustered the nerve to claim Trump never preached moral equivalence between torch-carrying Nazis and protesters. How unthoughtful it was of David Duke to expose you by praising the president’s putrid performance and thanking Trump for his “honesty and courage to tell the truth.” The former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard even bragged to reporters that Charlottesville represented a “turning point” for white nationalism. “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump,” Duke proclaimed. “That’s why we voted for [him].”

Ouch. That one had to sting, but you kept on defending Donald.

 
 

If you had a political soul after that shameful stunt, the Cold Warrior in you would have been as sickened by Trump’s retreat from Germany as U.S. strategists were over his ceding of Syria to Vladimir Putin, handing Moscow a foothold in the Middle East for the first time since 1973. No country was a closer ally during the Cold War than West Germany, and no nation is more critical to Europe’s future now than a unified Germany. Undermining the U.S.-German alliance because of an ignorant misunderstanding of NATO’s dues structure undermines the historic work that Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush completed throughout the Cold War’s final years.

But there you are, silently supporting a demagogue who sits by while intelligence suggests Russia’s leader put bounties on the heads of young American troops. Trump instead plays Putin’s apologist by declaring the United States equally guilty.

“Well, we supplied weapons when they were fighting Russia, too,” Trump said of our efforts to liberate Afghanistan from the Soviet invasion some 40 years ago.

 
 

Did any part of you cringe when Trump leaned once again on the crutch of moral equivalency, ignoring the glaring fact that the U.S.S.R. was America’s sworn enemy during our “twilight struggle” against communism? Maybe not. Maybe Trump has you figured out and knows what a frightened political soul you are, and remembers that you remained mute when he defended Putin’s killing of journalists and political rivals almost five years ago. “Our country does plenty of killing also,” candidate Trump told me when I repeatedly pressed him on “Morning Joe” to criticize Putin’s murderous ways. He wouldn’t then when the victims were Russian reporters, and he won’t now when the targets are young American heroes in uniform.

I know Trump’s devotion to Putin deeply disturbs you, but somehow you swallow that bile and keep running cover for them both. How hard it must have been to keep all of that down when Trump’s foreign policy adviser, national security adviser, campaign chairman, deputy campaign chairman, personal lawyer, political consultant and attorney general were all busted for lying to federal investigators or Congress about their contacts with Russians. But you still kept your head down and marched in a single formation behind Trump.

When it was revealed that Russia’s interference in the 2016 campaign was “sweeping and systematic,” you shrugged your shoulders. You later learned that Russian nationals with connections to the Kremlin promised Trump’s family dirt on Hillary Clinton, and that they were excited to learn it was part of “Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” You remained motionless, numb to it all, when federal investigators later revealed that Russia’s GRU began hacking Clinton-related email accounts hours after Trump announced this: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”

 
 

By this time, you began mindlessly regurgitating the former reality TV host’s propaganda about the “Russian hoax,” and hoped Americans would be stupid enough to ignore the mountains of damning evidence against Trump. Your singular focus turned to the Steele dossier’s most lurid tales, and you believed then, and now, that Christopher Steele’s fantastical claims could erase a multitude of Trump’s sins. You repeated the lies of Attorney General William P. Barr and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey O. Graham when they falsely claimed the FBI’s investigation began with Steele’s dossier. And you kept repeating this idiotic defense even after it became painfully evident that Trump’s team welcomed Russia’s interference in American democracy and then tried to cover it up. You still refuse to criticize the Trump team’s use of material stolen by Russia during the last month of the campaign, just like you and your president continue turning a blind eye to any Russian bounties.

None dare call it treason, but perhaps one day they will.

Joe Scarborough, July 31, 2020

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1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

I'm part of the Left. If Clinton comes out as guilty of pedophilia, he's despicable. OK? If it comes out he's creepy, well, I already knew that (my cousin and his wife met him at his inaugurations, and he gavet the wife the creeps when he put his arm around her). But being creepy isn't a disqualification for being President, especially if you're not running on an anti-creepiness platform. Being a pedophile, yes. Being a narcissist, not alone, but what narcissism usually leads to (i.e. toxic all-about-me behavior and administration) is not something I'd ever vote for.

Wendy P.

Well, the message is clear:  don't vote for Bill Clinton in November.  Or any other sexual predator, for that matter.

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1 hour ago, kallend said:

What a tremendous burden it must be for you to still be defending President Trump. You have called yourself a constitutional conservative for decades, but now you sit silently as the president pushes to move this year’s election because he might lose. Even some Republican senators are speaking up. Why aren’t you?

None dare call it treason, but perhaps one day they will.

Joe Scarborough, July 31, 2020

The head spins about how far integrity, the pillars of American values has fallen.

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4 hours ago, airdvr said:

Looks like left's hero just might be a pedophile.

Since when is Bill Clinton the 'left's hero"?
Hell, when's the last time he was in the news?

By most accounts, he was pretty much a sleazeball.

I wouldn't be totally surprised to find out he had sex with underage girls (technically not a 'pedophile', who go after very young girls).
I would hope he would face consequences for that if it turns out to be right.

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4 hours ago, airdvr said:

Bill Clinton Went to Jeffrey Epstein's Island With 2 'Young Girls', Virginia Giuffre Says

In 2015, the now-defunct pop-culture and news website Gawker released the flight logbooks for Epstein's Gulfstream and the Lolita Express 727. Clinton is listed as having taken at least 11 flights on the Lolita Express.

Looks like left's hero just might be a pedophile.

So far it would appear that it is possible he flew on the same airplane has some young girls. That does not make anyone a pedophile. No one has stepped forward to accuse him of having sex with Underaged girls. So why are you saying he may be a pedophile?

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36 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

So far it would appear that it is possible he flew on the same airplane has some young girls. That does not make anyone a pedophile. No one has stepped forward to accuse him of having sex with Underaged girls. So why are you saying he may be a pedophile?

I guess rapist might be a more appropriate term

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5 hours ago, airdvr said:

Bill Clinton Went to Jeffrey Epstein's Island With 2 'Young Girls', Virginia Giuffre Says

In 2015, the now-defunct pop-culture and news website Gawker released the flight logbooks for Epstein's Gulfstream and the Lolita Express 727. Clinton is listed as having taken at least 11 flights on the Lolita Express.

Looks like left's hero just might be a pedophile.

Cool strawman, bro.

Try this - for a month stop looking at EVERY fucking thing as a left vs right argument and talk about them on their own merits. 
 

Bill Clinton isn’t anyone’s ‘hero’ much less an entire set of the population’s, and he’s never been accused of any form of sexual assault.

That said, if he is guilty then he should face proper justice - Just like anyone.

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2 hours ago, kallend said:

but now you sit silently as the president pushes to move this year’s election because he might lose. Even some Republican senators are speaking up. Why aren’t you?

I gave him the chance and he did speak up: he finds it deplorable. I don't know for sure but he may also find it unfortunate and regrettable. Those are pretty strong rebukes from a Trumpie. Of course, no way is it disqualifying.

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2 minutes ago, yoink said:

Bill Clinton isn’t anyone’s ‘hero’

Well you could've fooled me they way some people here are flocking to defend him or dismiss it.

 

7 minutes ago, yoink said:

he’s never been accused of any form of sexual assault.

With the accusations of rape, sexual assault and harassment against him, along with his gross abuse of power and taking advantage of a subordinate, and given his troubling ties with epstein - it shouldn't be that big of a stretch for liberals to connect, especially those here that are so quick to judge.

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45 minutes ago, Coreece said:

Well you could've fooled me they way some people here are flocking to defend him or dismiss it.

So you wouldn't immediately refute it if I said 'Trump is Coreece's hero!'...? Or even 'Trump is the hero of every conservative'.

Bullshit. Of course you would. And that's why you're seeing people jump on airdvr's post - not because Clinton is a hero of 'the left' but because people don't like that nonsense assumption being made about them just because they associate with a more liberal political philosophy.  They're refuting it not because he's a hero (he might be to some people?) but because he's not a hero to them personally, but airdvr is either just trolling or he wants to score internet points against 'the left' in general by making up a strawman argument.

 

 

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6 hours ago, airdvr said:

Bill Clinton Went to Jeffrey Epstein's Island With 2 'Young Girls', Virginia Giuffre Says

In 2015, the now-defunct pop-culture and news website Gawker released the flight logbooks for Epstein's Gulfstream and the Lolita Express 727. Clinton is listed as having taken at least 11 flights on the Lolita Express.

Looks like left's hero just might be a pedophile.

You voted and continue to defend a guy who has actually been accused of having sex with a 12 year old. Why do you care now? You have already indicated you don't give a shit about men fucking underage girls.

From my side, if Bill Clinton or anybody else is guilty, may they rot in prison.

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7 minutes ago, airdvr said:

When did I say I don't care about men fucking underage girls?

When you voted for Trump, when you continue to support him, when you ignore the allegations against him, but post lesser allegations against Clinton.

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