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Hypocrisy of the left

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5 minutes ago, bigbearfng said:

Well that's not the way I see it. 

I would bet that everyone in here, even with opposite views would get along fine at the DZ buying each other a beer when the beer light comes on and when in person be able to have civil conversations about anything. It seems on the internet is when the vitriol comes out.

That wasn't vitriol. That was simply explaining the thing in an understandable way. Sadly, and it comes more from the right than the left in my experience, disagreement is often considered an affront.

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On 9/9/2020 at 11:43 AM, SkyDekker said:

Nice video of Trump's America.

 

10 hours ago, airdvr said:

He wasn't suffocated by the state.  If anything he was suffocated by fentanyl.

Jumping in for a quick post, so I can attract some serious ass-whooping from both sides:

This is idiotic! If one group can't simply say that the behavior shown in airdvr's video is simply unacceptable, violent and in no way tolerable (no matter that there is collective trauma that has affected groups of people in this country for centuries and is now bursting out)
and has to instead redirect towards making it someone else's fault (sure: Trump's at fault for many things, but not the individual behavior of these specific people--that is just an entirely different topic)

...and the other group of people cannot simply state that it is absolutely unacceptable behavior to kneel on an unarmed man's neck until that man dies from suffocation (irrespective of what that man may have done before) and has to redirect to some drugs he supposedly has taken before (if that is even true, it has NO bearing on that behavior WHATSOEVER--just like it has no bearing on the behavior of the group of people in the video what Trump may have done.)

I mean: it really seems like we are living in some alternate reality.
(I would have expected better from "my" side of the divide at the very least)

 

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All the time we glorify military action as heroic when really  it is simply the state sanctioned imposition of death and destruction on people whose leaders we disagree with, it is hard to turn around and condemn violent protest against injustice just because the state didn't sanction it. 

All the time we maintain a military we are implicitly endorsing violence as a way to settle problems.

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41 minutes ago, Coreece said:

Justice!

 

I can almost hear the rioters in the back ground - "yeah, and fuck Grimace too, that purple ass motherfuka!"

But Grimace got Back!! 

Grimace wasn't always so nice and friendly - He used to have a lot of Gangsta in him.  If he can change - maybe the the rest of the looters can too.

Grimace from McDonald’s used to be evil.

Y’all remember Grimace, right?

The purple dude, I mean. Ronald McDonald’s de facto best friend.

Throughout my childhood, Grimace was constantly on television, making commercial breaks tolerable with his adorably dopey demeanor and never-say-never attitude. (I’ll remind you that he once caught a literal freakin’ star to give to Ronald for Christmas.)

He was probably the most “purely sweet” character on TV at the time, which is what makes this next part so interesting:

Grimace used to be a VILLAIN.

Yup!

Originally, Grimace was known as The Evil Grimace, a milkshake-stealing monster with four arms and a bad attitude!

That version of the character debuted in 1971, and spent several years as Ronald’s foil. This was all well before my time, and I gotta tell ya, seeing an extra-armed dickhead version of Grimace would’ve totally blown my mind as a kid.
The Evil Grimace even starred in several McDonald’s commercials during the 1970s.

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On 9/11/2020 at 6:05 PM, billvon said:

 

Exactly!  And all those people who died of COVID-19 might have died anyway; lots of them had high blood pressure. And 9/11?  How do you know most of those people didn't die of heart attacks or suffocation, instead of being hit by an airplane like all the liberals claim?  Bet you never hear about any of that in the lamestream press!

Now that you mention it he did test positive for COVID 19

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiWh_Sur-nrAhUlgnIEHSvXBlQQFjAAegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.npr.org%2Fsections%2Flive-updates-protests-for-racial-justice%2F2020%2F06%2F04%2F869278494%2Fmedical-examiners-autopsy-reveals-george-floyd-had-positive-test-for-coronavirus&usg=AOvVaw1A3IXu2kci_o42qWL7k8hv

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Minneapolis City Council alarmed by crime surge after defunding police

The Minneapolis Police Department’s crime data shows a rise in assaults, robberies and homicides, as well as property crimes and arson, according to Minnesota Public Radio. More people have been killed in the city in the first nine months of 2020 than those slain in all of last year.

Doh!

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21 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Minneapolis City Council alarmed by crime surge after defunding police

The Minneapolis Police Department’s crime data shows a rise in assaults, robberies and homicides, as well as property crimes and arson, according to Minnesota Public Radio. More people have been killed in the city in the first nine months of 2020 than those slain in all of last year.

Doh!

As usual cherry picking of news by the right to confuse and mislead.

"The Hennepin County Public Defender’s office conducted a similar study this year, analyzing data from June 1, 2019 to May 31, 2020—just days after George Floyd was killed. The office found that Black and East African drivers were 78% of the people searched by the police for moving or equipment violations, and only 12% were white. After being stopped, 41% of white drivers eventually were arrested, compared to only 26% of Black and East African drivers. The Minneapolis Star Tribune verified these findings.

To lawyers and activists, the answer appears to be simple: Black Minneapolitans are being targeted—consciously or unconsciously—because of their race.

“When I talk to people in the community, Black people know they’re being profiled,” Moriarty, who is white, said. “Nobody stops my car because my tail light’s out and then tries to search it.”...

The department has been making an average of 80% fewer traffic stops each week since May 25, the day of Floyd’s death, according to an analysis by Bloomberg CityLab."

It’s a particularly striking data point given observations in some U.S. cities that police appear to be quietly disengaging from some parts of their jobs."

So instead of protect and serve its let the criminals loose on the public so budgets can be sustained.

 

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1 hour ago, airdvr said:

Minneapolis City Council alarmed by crime surge after defunding police

The Minneapolis Police Department’s crime data shows a rise in assaults, robberies and homicides, as well as property crimes and arson, according to Minnesota Public Radio. More people have been killed in the city in the first nine months of 2020 than those slain in all of last year.

Doh!

So two months ago the city council reallocated $1M of the PDs $193M budget, and you think that’s the reason for the increase in homicides over the last nine months?

 

”Doh” indeed.

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42 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

As usual cherry picking of news by the right to confuse and mislead.

"The Hennepin County Public Defender’s office conducted a similar study this year, analyzing data from June 1, 2019 to May 31, 2020—just days after George Floyd was killed. The office found that Black and East African drivers were 78% of the people searched by the police for moving or equipment violations, and only 12% were white. After being stopped, 41% of white drivers eventually were arrested, compared to only 26% of Black and East African drivers. The Minneapolis Star Tribune verified these findings.

To lawyers and activists, the answer appears to be simple: Black Minneapolitans are being targeted—consciously or unconsciously—because of their race.

“When I talk to people in the community, Black people know they’re being profiled,” Moriarty, who is white, said. “Nobody stops my car because my tail light’s out and then tries to search it.”...

The department has been making an average of 80% fewer traffic stops each week since May 25, the day of Floyd’s death, according to an analysis by Bloomberg CityLab."

It’s a particularly striking data point given observations in some U.S. cities that police appear to be quietly disengaging from some parts of their jobs."

So instead of protect and serve its let the criminals loose on the public so budgets can be sustained.

 

A lot of folks will never believe the cops need a shorter leash until their own sorry asses are prodded by the shitty end of a police baton. Of course for most, owing to the socioeconomic divide, that will likely never happen. Consequently they will continue believe, but never say out loud, that the affected assholes had it coming and should have taken it quietly according to the plan. It's sort of like when your dad cuffs you up side the head figuring that even if you were innocent you likely did something else so the system is working. 

Most of us here are along in years it seems. Just for giggles, think about your current relationship with the police. Are you more on guard today then you were 40 years ago? If so, why is that? Is it you? 

 

 

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51 minutes ago, jakee said:

So two months ago the city council reallocated $1M of the PDs $193M budget, and you think that’s the reason for the increase in homicides over the last nine months?

 

”Doh” indeed.

No.  I believe what prompted the uptick is the belief by those committing crimes that the PD won't care and won't respond.

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1 minute ago, airdvr said:

No.  I believe what prompted the uptick is the belief by those committing crimes that the PD won't care and won't respond.

It appears as if you're quite right. But its caused by the police working to rule or just looking the other way. Rather than "protect and serve". Yet you and the right want to keep budgets as is, protect those same unions and behaviors. All in the face that whites seem to be less law abiding than blacks.

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5 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

It appears as if you're quite right. But its caused by the police working to rule or just looking the other way. Rather than "protect and serve". Yet you and the right want to keep budgets as is, protect those same unions and behaviors. All in the face that whites seem to be less law abiding than blacks.

It's caused by the city not supporting the PD.  You can spin it any way you want.  They've put the PD in a no-win situation.

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52 minutes ago, airdvr said:

It's caused by the city not supporting the PD.  You can spin it any way you want.  They've put the PD in a no-win situation.

Meanwhile, in Molalla, Oregon, where the city was evacuated due to an encroaching forest fire, they caught two county sheriff's out protecting and serving by spreading rumors that "antifa motherfuckers" were starting fires and looting homes. Helpful as always they further explained-on film-how to shoot the motherfuckers and get away with it.

On top of all of the other misery where lives and homes are being lost and people are missing they helped out by freaking people out about leaving their homes vacant while they evacuated and caused the 911 lines to become useless for emergencies. Of course the Clackamas County Sheriff dealt with it firmly by putting them on paid administrative leave until it all goes away. Lovely.

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51 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Meanwhile, in Molalla, Oregon, where the city was evacuated due to an encroaching forest fire, they caught two county sheriff's out protecting and serving by spreading rumors that "antifa motherfuckers" were starting fires and looting homes. Helpful as always they further explained-on film-how to shoot the motherfuckers and get away with it.

On top of all of the other misery where lives and homes are being lost and people are missing they helped out by freaking people out about leaving their homes vacant while they evacuated and caused the 911 lines to become useless for emergencies. Of course the Clackamas County Sheriff dealt with it firmly by putting them on paid administrative leave until it all goes away. Lovely.

Always a couple of assholes everywhere.  Doesn't mean the entire force is bad.

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3 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Always a couple of assholes everywhere.  Doesn't mean the entire force is bad.

You could say the same about any group but with the police there needs to be a higher standard. If for no other reason than because with their protective unions they are all but unaccountable to those who are paying their wages to be protected. Yes there are amazing cops, I have some for friends, but that does not mean that egregious police behavior should not be severely dealt with in ways that send a loud and clear message. I don't see that happening.  And while we're at it let's ditch the war suits they wear. The criminals are clearly not impressed so what's the point other than military esprit?

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2 hours ago, airdvr said:

It's caused by the city not supporting the PD.  You can spin it any way you want.  They've put the PD in a no-win situation.

 

13 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Always a couple of assholes everywhere.  Doesn't mean the entire force is bad.

It means the PD are in need of reform of some kind. And it is more than a couple assholes. It is a culture that rejects accountability.

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2 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

So like protesters.

No...it's not the protesters that are looting and setting fires.  Once you destroy property you are no longer a protester.  And, once a LEO steps outside of the bounds of the law he is no longer fit for duty.

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Just now, airdvr said:

No...it's not the protesters that are looting and setting fires.  Once you destroy property you are no longer a protester.  And, once a LEO steps outside of the bounds of the law he is no longer fit for duty.

Except that when LEO steps out of bounds they tend to be put on paid administrative leave for a few years. Generally even if fired, they get rehired by another agency. 

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50 minutes ago, airdvr said:

And, once a LEO steps outside of the bounds of the law he is no longer fit for duty.

Too bad that seldom leads to consequences for the LEO. They seldom are held responsible and seldom are willing to hold each other responsible. They exist in an "us versus them" world. And that is not going to change without a fight.

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