billvon 2,395 #26 July 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Keith, I have yet to see any reason why local/state LEO need to wear camo to do their job. What if a perp turns to shoot at them, only to discover that a jungle has grown behind the police? Then he wouldn't be able to see them and they'd be protected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,297 #27 July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, billvon said: What if a perp turns to shoot at them, only to discover that a jungle has grown behind the police? Then he wouldn't be able to see them and they'd be protected. Don't trivialize something serious, Bill. You never know where you'll need to wear camouflage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,905 #28 July 18, 2020 5 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Keith, I have yet to see any reason why local/state LEO need to wear camo to do their job. Jerry Baumchen It helps to intimidate the population. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,297 #29 July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, gowlerk said: It helps to intimidate the population. And it does. Back in the day it was tear gas and real bullets which they really didn't want to use. Now it's "less than lethal" projectiles that will send you to the ER for facial reconstruction. So we're making progress there, I guess. The conversation is now beyond not being offensive so the conversation can continue. Secret Police are being deployed in the cities of our nation by a rogue federal government to not just suppress protests but to enhance the current governments chances at reelection. Just let that thought explode in your brain for a second. If that isn't enough for you to discard your fear of the opposition party and say fuck that shit then you will never say it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #30 July 19, 2020 Anybody else remember how the right wing folk lost their shit over the "Jade Helm" exercises during the Obama administration? Where are they now? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #31 July 19, 2020 6 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Don't trivialize something serious, Bill. You never know where you'll need to wear camouflage. While I know this is a joke, and don't want to sidetrack things too much, this is the only part of Space Force that actually makes logical sense. Spending extra cash on designing and implementing a brand new uniform for the branch would have been a complete waste of time and money - slapping SF patches on existing in-use camo is an almost refreshing example of thriftiness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,297 #32 July 19, 2020 2 hours ago, mistercwood said: While I know this is a joke, and don't want to sidetrack things too much, this is the only part of Space Force that actually makes logical sense. Spending extra cash on designing and implementing a brand new uniform for the branch would have been a complete waste of time and money - slapping SF patches on existing in-use camo is an almost refreshing example of thriftiness. Actually it is the penultimate expression of how stupid we are. Why not Navy whites or Marine dress blues? Simple, it was to announce we are militarizing space and fuck anyone who objects. And no, the military wasn't being thrifty that week for the first time in history. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #33 July 19, 2020 5 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Actually it is the penultimate expression of how stupid we are. Why not Navy whites or Marine dress blues? Simple, it was to announce we are militarizing space and fuck anyone who objects. And no, the military wasn't being thrifty that week for the first time in history. So what is the ultimate expression of how stupid we are? Electing Trump in the first place? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,297 #34 July 19, 2020 2 hours ago, kallend said: So what is the ultimate expression of how stupid we are? Electing Trump in the first place? It appears that when we elected him we were just getting started. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #35 July 19, 2020 2 hours ago, kallend said: So what is the ultimate expression of how stupid we are? Electing Trump in the first place? Although that is true and on target. The current GOP has said nothing about the trump camoshirts. The GOP obstructed the impeachment and voted against it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,051 #36 July 19, 2020 9 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Simple, it was to announce we are militarizing space and fuck anyone who objects. Was there ever anything that made you think it was something other than that? Don't get me wrong; I am not in favor of it at all. Quote And no, the military wasn't being thrifty that week for the first time in history. Well, actually they were. The USSF is under the Air Force and they opted to go with the current Air Force OCU Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,297 #37 July 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, BIGUN said: Was there ever anything that made you think it was something other than that? Don't get me wrong; I am not in favor of it at all. Well, actually they were. The USSF is under the Air Force and they opted to go with the current Air Force OCU Well, if saving money was important, they did have other options on the shelf that definitely had more panache. I simply think it's poor form to run around screaming the dilithium crystals are getting ready to blow wearing camo when you could do it riding a horse or swinging a scepter. But that's just me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,381 #38 July 19, 2020 My uniform suggestion 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,297 #39 July 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, ryoder said: My uniform suggestion Whose going to give them the news that they won't be needing an AR-15? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,051 #40 July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, ryoder said: My uniform suggestion Well, they kinda did steal the logo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,047 #41 July 19, 2020 3 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Hi Joe, While in the Air Force, I worked for two different E-9's; neither of them ever looked that stupid. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #42 July 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Joe, While in the Air Force, I worked for two different E-9's; neither of them ever looked that stupid. Jerry Baumchen That was the US Air Force uniform during the War of 1812, right? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,047 #43 July 19, 2020 1 minute ago, kallend said: That was the US Air Force uniform during the War of 1812, right? Hi John, Actually, a couple of years later; it takes time to buy the raw materials needed. :) Jerry Baumchen PS) Yes, I am an old guy; and happy to be one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #44 July 20, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 6:52 PM, JoeWeber said: .. Secret Police are being deployed in the cities of our nation by a rogue federal government to not just suppress protests but to enhance the current governments chances at reelection. Just let that thought explode in your brain for a second. If that isn't enough for you to discard your fear of the opposition party and say fuck that shit then you will never say it. How It Starts SHTF. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,051 #45 July 20, 2020 On 7/19/2020 at 12:46 PM, JerryBaumchen said: While in the Air Force, I thought you said you were in the military. Ba dump bump tiissssh 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #46 July 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: How It Starts SHTF. Germany, 1939 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,047 #47 July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, BIGUN said: I thought you said you were in the military. Ba dump bump tiissssh Hi Keith, Whether you agree or not; officially, I am a Vietnam Vet. Just never been in Vietnam. Take it up with your congresscritter. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #48 July 21, 2020 (edited) Private bone spurs orders the beating of 53 yo USN veteran. Chickenhawks with Barr nodding approval are reenacting the Beer Hall Putsch. A Navy Veteran Had a Question for the Feds in Portland. They Beat Him in Response. The veteran said he wanted to ask the officers whether they felt their actions violated the Constitution. Video shows them tear-gassing him and smashing his hand with baton blows. "Christopher J. David had largely ignored the protests in downtown Portland, Ore., but when he saw videos of unidentified federal agents grabbing protesters off the street and throwing them into rented minivans, he felt compelled to act. Mr. David, a Navy veteran, said that federal agents’ use of violent tactics against protesters, without the support of the mayor, the governor or local law enforcement, was a violation of the oaths that agents take to support, uphold and defend the Constitution. And so, on Saturday, he took a bus downtown to ask the officers how they squared their actions with that oath. Instead of getting an answer, Mr. David was beaten with a baton by one federal officer as another doused him with pepper spray, according to video footage of the encounter. After he walked away from the confrontation, Mr. David was taken to a nearby hospital, where a specialist said his right hand was broken and would require surgery to install pins, screws and plates. He declined pain medication." Hero. Edited July 21, 2020 by Phil1111 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #49 July 21, 2020 Well, given the fact that Trump supported Putin after he knew (or should have known) that Putin paid bounties for dead US soldiers, his Gestapo beating a veteran won't mean anything to him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,047 #50 July 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: Hero. Hi Phil, Of course, this is all over our local news. Re: 'Hero.' On tonite's local evening news, he said that he was not 'any ironman, any superman,' as some people are calling him. He said that he was just a 53 yr-old, fat guy, who takes blood thinners. He also said that he would like to sit down & have a cup of coffee with the federal officer who beat him with the baton. Yup, that's a Hero. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites