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The 2020 Election trump v. Biden

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11 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Big,

Are you saying you are not going to vote for anyone for President this year?

If so, please consider John's comments.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  However, not voting is a choice that is allowed.

“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”   John Stuart Mill

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NPR: Facebook And Twitter Remove Russia-Backed Accounts Targeting Left-Leaning Voters

https://peacedata.net/the-peace-data-message-to-our-readers/

And for those who want to see what a Russian propaganda website aimed at left-leaning Americans looks like:

https://peacedata.net/

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20 minutes ago, ryoder said:

NPR: Facebook And Twitter Remove Russia-Backed Accounts Targeting Left-Leaning Voters

https://peacedata.net/the-peace-data-message-to-our-readers/

And for those who want to see what a Russian propaganda website aimed at left-leaning Americans looks like:

https://peacedata.net/

NPR: Facebook And Twitter Remove TRUMP BACKED Accounts Targeting Left-Leaning Voters

FIFY.

"Two weeks ago, William Evanina, director of the United States National Counterintelligence and Security Center, published a somewhat vague warning about various forms of foreign interference in the upcoming election. On Friday, he followed up with a more direct and incriminating one, specifically warning that Russia is working to help reelect Donald Trump. Even more important is what this warning unmistakably implies: that Trump and his Republican allies in Congress are actively cooperating with Russia’s campaign."

 

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3 hours ago, ryoder said:

NPR: Facebook And Twitter Remove Russia-Backed Accounts Targeting Left-Leaning Voters

https://peacedata.net/the-peace-data-message-to-our-readers/

And for those who want to see what a Russian propaganda website aimed at left-leaning Americans looks like:

https://peacedata.net/

If any rational human being sees this "We cover stories that are usually untold or kept hidden from the general public." on a media outlet then little mental alarm bells should start going off.

 

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On 8/31/2020 at 6:07 PM, kallend said:

One of them may not be God's gift to Americans, but the other is awful in almost every conceivable way.
 

Sometimes you have to go with the lesser of two evils, lest the greater evil should prevail.

Sometimes you have to pick someone other than the two evils.

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1 hour ago, Bigfalls said:

Sometimes you have to pick someone other than the two evils.

Maybe if they’re both passive evils, or fairly equivalent. When one is actively trying to do things you think are negative, and the other simply isn’t countering them enough, that’s a reason to vote for one of them in my book 

Wendy P. 

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Hi folks,

'Research from CIRCLE, a research center at Tufts University, found that nearly 1 in 5 young voters who backed Republicans in 2018 plan to support Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden this year.'

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/02/908350700/generation-z-in-the-gop-young-republicans-reflect-on-the-future-of-their-party

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  I just realized that this post is in violation of the posting rules.  So let me add:  It looks like the future of the RNC may not be what Trump would like to see.

 

Edited by JerryBaumchen

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11 hours ago, ryoder said:

NPR: Facebook And Twitter Remove Russia-Backed Accounts Targeting Left-Leaning Voters

https://peacedata.net/the-peace-data-message-to-our-readers/

And for those who want to see what a Russian propaganda website aimed at left-leaning Americans looks like:

https://peacedata.net/

If they're trying to convince people that they're not Russian based they should probably hire a native English speaker for their rebuttal - that thing is *riddled* with grammar errors.

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12 hours ago, Bigfalls said:

Sometimes you have to pick someone other than the two evils.

If a voter picks someone other than one of the two evils in a two-horse-race that decides the future of the country then IMO, they're're a moron. And an ignorant, selfish moron, at that.

Protest votes don't count. Do we really think anything happens to those ballot papers where you write in an alternative candidate? Do you think there's someone in a back room going 'oh look, if only we'd run this third candidate they would have received so many votes!'? Of course not. Those papers get thrown in the trash and your impact on the world is WASTED.

The reason someone writes in or selects a non-valid candidate in a 2 person election is to make themselves feel better. No other reason. It's so they can feel smug about it but have deniability when the elected candidate turns out to be shit. 'Well I didn't vote for him....'.

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8 hours ago, yoink said:

If a voter picks someone other than one of the two evils in a two-horse-race that decides the future of the country then IMO, they're're a moron. And an ignorant, selfish moron, at that.

Protest votes don't count. Do we really think anything happens to those ballot papers where you write in an alternative candidate? Do you think there's someone in a back room going 'oh look, if only we'd run this third candidate they would have received so many votes!'? Of course not. Those papers get thrown in the trash and your impact on the world is WASTED.

The reason someone writes in or selects a non-valid candidate in a 2 person election is to make themselves feel better. No other reason. It's so they can feel smug about it but have deniability when the elected candidate turns out to be shit. 'Well I didn't vote for him....'.

I will say that with our electoral college vote-by-state system, if you live in a state that’s guaranteed to vote for a given candidate overwhelmingly, then a third party vote is irrelevant. 
With the churn in this election, those states aren’t as numerous as they were in the last one. And with the current president all but guaranteeing an angry protest and maybe uprising if he doesn’t win, then a large popular vote, even in the safely-opposing states, still matters. 
And that near promise of his is an important reason to vote. Delegitimize his ass. 
Wendy P. 

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9 hours ago, yoink said:

If a voter picks someone other than one of the two evils in a two-horse-race that decides the future of the country then IMO, they're're a moron. And an ignorant, selfish moron, at that.

Protest votes don't count. Do we really think anything happens to those ballot papers where you write in an alternative candidate? Do you think there's someone in a back room going 'oh look, if only we'd run this third candidate they would have received so many votes!'? Of course not. Those papers get thrown in the trash and your impact on the world is WASTED.

The reason someone writes in or selects a non-valid candidate in a 2 person election is to make themselves feel better. No other reason. It's so they can feel smug about it but have deniability when the elected candidate turns out to be shit. 'Well I didn't vote for him....'.

A write-in vote is not discarded if, and only if, the candidate has registered for the state election.

Example: In 2010 Lisa Murkowski lost the GOP senate primary in Alaska. She registered as a write-in candidate, and won the election.

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8 hours ago, billvon said:
11 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

And criminals, and looters, and rioters . . . 

Exactly!  So do you want four more years of criminals, murderers, looters and rioters, or do you want to change that?

Oh, so like domestic terrorists holding the country to ransom.

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3 hours ago, ryoder said:

A write-in vote is not discarded if, and only if, the candidate has registered for the state election.

Example: In 2010 Lisa Murkowski lost the GOP senate primary in Alaska. She registered as a write-in candidate, and won the election.

True enough.

 

Until this election I've not really been passionate about people voting. I never did for nearly 30 years of my life. It simply didn’t seem important - meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

However, having seen the damage and danger of the last 4 years I'm now a massive convert. Vote. Vote properly and with understanding of the issues.

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