ryoder 1,381 #1051 June 5, 2015 Attached is a 3 page letter. Pages 1 & 2 are from MHS's attorney to Gibbs and her attorneys. Page 3 is the included copy of a FB page which prompted the letter."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edjglass920 0 #1052 June 5, 2015 This might be a case of giving a person enough rope. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,120 #1053 June 5, 2015 I think it behooves the skydiving community not to use this thread as their rope. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #1054 June 5, 2015 Agreed Johnny, over and out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #1055 June 5, 2015 For the life of me, I don't understand that. They are trying to change a federal agency policy via local court channels. Disagreeing and voicing that disagreement should not be hidden. BOHICA is not a path we should accept IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #1056 June 5, 2015 ryoderAttached is a 3 page letter. Pages 1 & 2 are from MHS's attorney to Gibbs and her attorneys. Page 3 is the included copy of a FB page which prompted the letter. Maybe one of our legal bagels (ha!) will comment, but, I always thought it was a bad strategy to threaten to file a lawsuit: either don't sue someone, or sue them and send them the lawsuit. Jerry/Andy?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,120 #1057 June 5, 2015 Disagreeing and stating reasons is just fine. It's the cute little attacks that are dope. Just consider SC threads, and the content thereof. Attacking the logic is fine. The person or their right to disagree isn't. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,381 #1058 June 5, 2015 wmw999 I think it behooves the skydiving community not to use this thread as their rope. Wendy P. Agreed. It is more fun to use the Times-Call comments section.First, Gibbs and a few of her lackeys post there. Second, you get to vote the posts up/down. Current active comments at bottom of this page: http://www.timescall.com/longmont-local-news/ci_28248448/longmont-residents-query-citys-aviation-attorney-airport-noise"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolhtairt 0 #1059 June 5, 2015 I'm not the least bit familiar with how the law works but in what types of cases, if any, can a defendant counter-sue to recoup money spent on legal fees defending themselves from a frivolous lawsuit that is summarily dismissed? Shouldn't there be a rule that if you sue and lose the case completely that you have to pay court costs and legal fees of the defendant? Just wondering... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edjglass920 0 #1060 June 5, 2015 Wendy I didn't mean that as an attack, maybe it was a bad choice of words. I was trying to say basically that she is doing everything in her power to implode her cause. Honestly after watching her video after the closing arguments I saw a lot of behavior she shares with a good friend that is bipolar. If you have never seen the disease in person, watch homeland and Carrie plays it pretty spot on. Sad thing is that kg believes she is right and the disease will not let her change her mind until she gets what she wants. I will debate with her points all day long but we both know as soon as I start stating facts and using logic she will delete me or attack me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #1061 June 5, 2015 wmw999 Just consider SC threads, and the content thereof. Disclaimer - people, never consider SC threads and content - for your own good and the good of others. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,047 #1062 June 5, 2015 Hi Remster, QuoteI always thought it was a bad strategy to threaten to file a lawsuit: I am not an attorney; but I have filed quite a few lawsuits, all in Small Claims Court. Here, in Oregon, you have to give them notice of what your demand is. Then, if they continue/fail to do whatever, you can proceed with litigation. IMO MHS is saying to cease & desist; then if they do not, MHS can proceed with litigation. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #1063 June 5, 2015 JerryBaumchenHi Remster, QuoteI always thought it was a bad strategy to threaten to file a lawsuit: I am not an attorney; but I have filed quite a few lawsuits, all in Small Claims Court. Here, in Oregon, you have to give them notice of what your demand is. Then, if they continue/fail to do whatever, you can proceed with litigation. IMO MHS is saying to cease & desist; then if they do not, MHS can proceed with litigation. Jerry Baumchen That makes sense. Thanks.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman 61 #1064 June 5, 2015 Jesus H Christ - If that woman lived where I live she'd be going batshit crazy. I live in a small village in Mid-Wales inside the "Mach Loop" where the RAF and USAF practice low level flying. Some of the aircraft we get passing over at low level and high speed are Tornado, Typhoon, Hawk and F-15E Strike Eagles out of Lakenheath. We also get a lot of Hercs practicing low level operations.Atheism is a Non-Prophet Organisation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,381 #1065 June 6, 2015 Still waiting on the Wednesday meeting video to be posted, but in the meantime, here are the slides they used for the meeting: http://longmontcolorado.gov/home/showdocument?id=7940 Note that questions were chosen from previously submitted questions from the public, and are listed in categories. There was no "Category 10", so the numbering jumps from 9 to 11."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #1066 June 7, 2015 wmw999 I think it behooves the skydiving community not to use this thread as their rope. Wendy P. I understand what you're trying to say Wendy, but the effect is to let Kim Gibbs dictate what we are allowed to say (in effect to silence us) on a skydiving forum that's designed for skydivers to discuss skydiving issues. IMHO, that is not a road we should walk. Not that it matters to a crazy person (KG), but we have the right to our opinion. And, this is a forum for us to state and discus those opinions. I'm trying really hard not to offend KG in any way (restraint is not always easy) but I refuse to be silenced by anyone under threat of lawsuit or subpoena. Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,381 #1067 June 7, 2015 Just two days after getting a letter from the MHS attorneys regarding a rant on FB, Gibbs just put essentially the same rant on the Times-Call website: http://www.timescall.com/opinion/ci_28263453/kimberly-gibbs:-curious-change-of-milehi-skydiving-plane-routes-on-day-of-judges-visit It's like she really wants a libel suit. Hope she gets her wish. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #1068 June 7, 2015 Save the skydivers!!! this is awesome... another parody article about how backwards K bird and her followers are. This is a local longmont/boulder publication that has no tie to skydiving, they just see how backwards she is. http://www.lhvc.com/index.php/news/799-5280-high-skydivers-clutter-rural-character-of-area-air-space -SPACE- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomerdog 0 #1069 June 7, 2015 Quote It's like she really wants a libel suit. Hope she gets her wish. It appears she's spoiling for one. I'm confident counsel for MHS will exercise prudence and patience to ascertain what's "beneath the table" on this strategy before they pull the trigger on a law suit. ...and no CQS will not quit until they are legally pounded into pulp. Sad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpsalot-2 2 #1070 June 8, 2015 rifleman Jesus H Christ - If that woman lived where I live she'd be going batshit crazy. I live in a small village in Mid-Wales inside the "Mach Loop" where the RAF and USAF practice low level flying. Some of the aircraft we get passing over at low level and high speed are Tornado, Typhoon, Hawk and F-15E Strike Eagles out of Lakenheath. We also get a lot of Hercs practicing low level operations. Quote Well at least you can feel safe knowing that no one will ever try to invade your neighborhood ........ . Life is short ... jump often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolhtairt 0 #1071 June 8, 2015 rifleman Jesus H Christ - If that woman lived where I live she'd be going batshit crazy. I live in a small village in Mid-Wales inside the "Mach Loop" where the RAF and USAF practice low level flying. Some of the aircraft we get passing over at low level and high speed are Tornado, Typhoon, Hawk and F-15E Strike Eagles out of Lakenheath. We also get a lot of Hercs practicing low level operations. I wonder where the fire-fighting planes are based? If they're not at Longmont, they should be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,394 #1072 June 8, 2015 >If that woman lived where I live she'd be going batshit crazy. I live in a small village in >Mid-Wales inside the "Mach Loop" where the RAF and USAF practice low level flying. Then she'd ignore the military aircraft and complain about the kids on the streets with their loud music. Have to pick your battles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3mpire 0 #1073 June 8, 2015 There is a group on Whidbey Island here in Washington state that is trying to get the US Navy to relocate an outlying field that F/A 18 Growlers use for carrier qualification. Compared to Longmont, it's actually legitimately loud (in excess of 130dbs). And even THEY haven't been able to make any headway in getting it shut down. The main reason being the Navy has been there long before they were, and it turns out just being pissed off doesn't move the needle with the federal government. Go figure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 173 #1074 June 8, 2015 A funny piece by a Longmont on line newspaper that is very pro business. http://longmontcompass.com/7-things-we-hate-about-longmont/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,381 #1075 June 8, 2015 nolhtairt ***Jesus H Christ - If that woman lived where I live she'd be going batshit crazy. I live in a small village in Mid-Wales inside the "Mach Loop" where the RAF and USAF practice low level flying. Some of the aircraft we get passing over at low level and high speed are Tornado, Typhoon, Hawk and F-15E Strike Eagles out of Lakenheath. We also get a lot of Hercs practicing low level operations. I wonder where the fire-fighting planes are based? If they're not at Longmont, they should be. They operate out of Rocky Mtn Regional, which is 3 miles West of me. A couple years ago when there was a big fire North of here, they had slurry bombers taking off at 15m intervals, and after departing, they turned North right over my house. It was pretty cool getting a non-stop display of WWII-era bombers from sunrise to sunset!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites