How to end this

[billvon 2,732]

America is facing a crossroads, and we have to decide how to respond to the murder of George Floyd, and the violent protests it has engendered.  We can take Trump's approach, and respond by shooting.  We can take the approach of right wing militias, and stockpile large capacity magazines to ensure violence on a large scale while encouraging the "boogaloo."

Or we can respond like Michigan Sheriff Chris Swanson did.

He met protesters dressed in riot gear - shield, baton, body armor.  And then he did something that might be inexplicable to some people here - he asked what he could do to help them protest peacefully.  The protesters replied - "march with us."  And he did, dropping his shield and his baton.

When protesters challenged him on what he thought he was doing, he said "I want to make this a parade, not a protest . . . The only reason we're here is to make sure that you got a voice -- that's it." 

Another officer tweeted "#WalkWithUs is how we change a system that murdered #GeorgeFloyd. It requires mindfulness of our actions and beliefs. Chris Swanson exemplifies the deputies and officers I know and respect. Community-first mentality and lead by example. This is a mindful action. This is change."

Want this to end?  Follow people like Chris Swanson and show people that we are all on the same side.  And ignore the people sowing fear and hatred, hoping to widen the racial divisions in our country.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/05/31/genesee-county-sheriff-christopher-swanson-george-floyd-protesters/5299589002/

[turtlespeed 212]

8 minutes ago, billvon said:

America is facing a crossroads, and we have to decide how to respond to the murder of George Floyd, and the violent protests it has engendered.  We can take Trump's approach, and respond by shooting.  We can take the approach of right wing militias, and stockpile large capacity magazines to ensure violence on a large scale while encouraging the "boogaloo."

Or we can respond like Michigan Sheriff Chris Swanson did.

He met protesters dressed in riot gear - shield, baton, body armor.  And then he did something that might be inexplicable to some people here - he asked what he could do to help them protest peacefully.  The protesters replied - "march with us."  And he did, dropping his shield and his baton.

When protesters challenged him on what he thought he was doing, he said "I want to make this a parade, not a protest . . . The only reason we're here is to make sure that you got a voice -- that's it." 

Another officer tweeted "#WalkWithUs is how we change a system that murdered #GeorgeFloyd. It requires mindfulness of our actions and beliefs. Chris Swanson exemplifies the deputies and officers I know and respect. Community-first mentality and lead by example. This is a mindful action. This is change."

Want this to end?  Follow people like Chris Swanson and show people that we are all on the same side.  And ignore the people sowing fear and hatred, hoping to widen the racial divisions in our country.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/05/31/genesee-county-sheriff-christopher-swanson-george-floyd-protesters/5299589002/

See - We agree.

[nigel99 292]

It must be getting close to the point where a president with a shred of self respect should step down. 
 

No chance of that with Trump though. He will never accept any responsibility 

[turtlespeed 212]

16 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

It must be getting close to the point where a president with a shred of self respect should step down. 
 

No chance of that with Trump though. He will never accept any responsibility 

His ego wouldn't let him.

[normiss 723]

2 hours ago, nigel99 said:

It must be getting close to the point where a president with a shred of self respect should step down. 
 

No chance of that with Trump though. He will never accept any responsibility 

He's busy hiding in the White House bunker. Poor liddle guy, he's scared.

[wolfriverjoe 1,462]

Chief of Police in Green Bay was invited to address the protesters. And to march with them.

He did. Both.
 

The text of his address is in the link. Worth a read.

https://www.wbay.com/content/news/Protesters-return-to-downtown-Green-Bay-570907211.html

[kallend 1,822]

10 hours ago, normiss said:

He's busy hiding in the White House bunker. Poor liddle guy, he's scared.

Leadership:

 

[JoeWeber 2,565]

11 hours ago, normiss said:

He's busy hiding in the White House bunker. Poor liddle guy, he's scared.

And turned off the lights like the mother in law was stopping by. What a putz.

[turtlespeed 212]

42 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

And turned off the lights like the mother in law was stopping by. What a putz.

Wow.  Did you guys do this on the playground as a kid as well?

[normiss 723]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

And turned off the lights like the mother in law was stopping by. What a putz.

He wants to be like Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Ladin and Hitler.

[airdvr 201]

2 hours ago, kallend said:

Leadership:

 

“The Prime Minister personally urged the French and US leaders to block publication of the captured German telegrams after the war,” the Telegraph reported, “fearing they would ‘give pain to the Duke.’ While he dismissed the documents as “ ‘German intrigues,’ he feared they might cast doubt on the Duke’s loyalty.”

[billvon 2,732]

America has never felt the lack of a leader as keenly as it does today.

[tonyhays 86]

3 hours ago, billvon said:

America has never felt the lack of a leader as keenly as it does today.

You know it's bad when even the drudge report is calling him out.

 

[DJL 232]

4 hours ago, airdvr said:

“The Prime Minister personally urged the French and US leaders to block publication of the captured German telegrams after the war,” the Telegraph reported, “fearing they would ‘give pain to the Duke.’ While he dismissed the documents as “ ‘German intrigues,’ he feared they might cast doubt on the Duke’s loyalty.”

I think you're a bit hung up on the version of this from The Crown.  Churchill very correctly wished to suppress a portfolio that was put together for the purposes of causing the most damage possible to a person who at the time remained as a valuable diplomatic asset and representative of the country as Europe recovered from the war.  The US opinion of the folder was that they were valueless propaganda and part of the reason they allowed their release is that they thought the public would ultimately see the accusation as threadbare.  Don't forget that it was the GERMAN ambassador who said Edward leaked the invasion plan.  There otherwise was little doubt that the English aristocracy was firmly entwined with the Germans, many of whom enabled and supported the Nazis.

[kallend 1,822]

"Trump Hides in Bunker"

 

[kallend 1,822]

George Will has impeccable conservative credentials, and a reputation for integrity too:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/no-one-should-want-four-more-years-of-this-taste-of-ashes/2020/06/01/1a80ecf4-a425-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html

Trump must be removed. So must his congressional enablers.

Edited June 2, 2020 by kallend

[Guest]

31 minutes ago, kallend said:

George Will has impeccable conservative credentials, and a reputation for integrity too:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/no-one-should-want-four-more-years-of-this-taste-of-ashes/2020/06/01/1a80ecf4-a425-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html

Why does this whole fiasco remind me of a poignant scene from GoT? 'Course, our Joffrey doesn't have a Tyrion to slap him around some.

 

Edited June 2, 2020 by Guest

[Phil1111 1,078]

54 minutes ago, kallend said:

George Will has impeccable conservative credentials, and a reputation for integrity too:
 

Mr. Will is of the old school of the GOP. trump belongs to the one who believes that the beatings will continue until until morale improves...er is broken.

Today Mr. Will speaks to independents.

[airdvr 201]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

George Will has impeccable conservative credentials, and a reputation for integrity too:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/no-one-should-want-four-more-years-of-this-taste-of-ashes/2020/06/01/1a80ecf4-a425-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html

Trump must be removed. So must his congressional enablers.

Too bad it's behind a paywall for me.

[gowlerk 2,099]

29 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Too bad it's behind a paywall for me.

I managed to read it. There was not much in it that the headline did not already say.

[airdvr 201]

27 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

I managed to read it. There was not much in it that the headline did not already say.

I think the headline incites anarchy

[gowlerk 2,099]

7 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I think the headline incites anarchy

Okay, I can see that you might think that. I should be more clear. The story advocates removal through the electoral process. George Will is not an anarchist any more than George Soros is.

Edited June 2, 2020 by gowlerk

[airdvr 201]

3 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Okay, I can see that you might think that. I should be more clear. The story advocates removal through the electoral process. George Will is not an anarchist.

Never said that he was however, it is possible that WaPo used that headline on purpose.

I've always enjoyed Will.  His intelligent analysis is one I have come to respect.

[gowlerk 2,099]

2 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Never said that he was however, it is possible that WaPo used that headline on purpose.

Because Jeff Bezos is an anarchist? How Trumpian of you!

[airdvr 201]

1 minute ago, gowlerk said:

Because Jeff Bezos is an anarchist? How Trumpian of you!

I said it's possible...now I think it's probable.  It's a headline designed to grab the reader's attention.  Happens all the time.  My first reaction was "is Will advocating anarchy?"