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turtlespeed

Nothing about this is a protest. (NSFW Racial Expletives)

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10 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Do people have a right to set dumpster fires, destroy businesses, and Loot?

 

2 hours ago, kallend said:

 

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I can see Turtle and other trump apologists writing the inspiration for the American revolution. "Its better to bear the yoke of injustice, of British Laws and oppression. Laws, dumpsters and business must be protected."

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12 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Do people have a right to set dumpster fires, destroy businesses, and Loot?

5 hours ago, kallend said:

 

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If you want war, then I'm sure there are plenty of people out there willing to give it to you.

Whatever happened to using your brain to solve problems rather then resorting to violence, "playing dirty," and just letting history repeat itself ad nauseam?

 

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15 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Do people have a right to set dumpster fires, destroy businesses, and Loot?

What I find weird is that you feel that people can take somebody''s life if they feel threatened. But people cannot be violent after decades and decades of systemic racism and unequal treatment by agents of the state.

I hold life more valuable than possessions, sad to see people whole possessions more valuable than human life.

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7 hours ago, Coreece said:

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Whatever happened to using your brain to solve problems rather then resorting to violence, "playing dirty," and just letting history repeat itself ad nauseam?

 

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20 hours ago, wmw999 said:

No they don’t. Then again, most protesters aren’t doing that, any more than most gun owners are shooting people. 
you not only want the gun owners who don’t shoot protesters to be lionized, you want the one who did to be granted all benefit of the doubt, while assuming that every person who doesn’t actively identify with the people opposing the protests is setting dumpster fires and looting. 
When you want guilt by association on one side, and innocent-because... on the other, your goalposts may be skewed. 
Wendy P. 

I suppose that if the looting and rioting was as important as, and posted with as much effort as, say, making memes about Trump, then maybe I would have a whole lot less reason to believe the association with giving the looting and rioting a pass.  You can read and browse for days and days here, and see nothing but a few posters putting any effort into talking about how despicable the criminal activity is.

The scale for demonizing anyone who wants to stand up for businesses, personal property, and such is very heavily weighted to one side.  Guess what.  It isn't the side of the people that worked to build the businesses, or worked for the personal property.  Well, it isn't in this forum, anyway.

Posters are saying that I have defended Rittenhouse and applaud the illegality of him carrying a weapon.  That is untrue. 

I do believe that the rioters should be stopped.  Don't you?  If there isn't enough police to make that happen, then the good citizens should put their efforts forth, and help stop the crimes from being committed. Isn't that what you would want if the looting and riots came to your front door?

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, turtlespeed said:

I suppose that if the looting and rioting was as important as, and posted with as much effort as, say, making memes about Trump, then maybe I would have a whole lot less reason to believe the association with giving the looting and rioting a pass.  You can read and browse for days and days here, and see nothing but a few posters putting any effort into talking about how despicable the criminal activity is.

The scale for demonizing anyone who wants to stand up for businesses, personal property, and such is very heavily weighted to one side.  Guess what.  It isn't the side of the people that worked to build the businesses, or worked for the personal property.  Well, it isn't in this forum, anyway.

Posters are saying that I have defended Rittenhouse and applaud the illegality of him carrying a weapon.  That is untrue. 

I do believe that the rioters should be stopped.  Don't you?  If there isn't enough police to make that happen, then the good citizens should put their efforts forth, and help stop the crimes from being committed. Isn't that what you would want if the looting and riots came to your front door?

 

 

 

When you start caring about the law breaking on the right as much as you supposedly care about this, maybe your post wouldn't come across as some of the most self-righteous bullshit I have read in quite some time.

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6 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Posters are saying that I have defended Rittenhouse and applaud the illegality of him carrying a weapon.  That is untrue. 

Bollocks. You have defended Rittenhouse. You have applauded him for being there carrying a weapon. That you don't agree with him being underage with a gun is frankly a technicality. If his 18th birthday happened to have rolled around a little earlier there isn't a single thing he's done that you've disagreed with, up to and including shooting multiple people with no evidence that they had been doing anything wrong.

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I do believe that the rioters should be stopped.  Don't you?  If there isn't enough police to make that happen, then the good citizens should put their efforts forth, and help stop the crimes from being committed. Isn't that what you would want if the looting and riots came to your front door?

No, because they'll end up shooting more innocent people and contribute to the breakdown of law and order throughout society.

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14 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

 You can read and browse for days and days here, and see nothing but a few posters putting any effort into talking about how despicable the criminal activity is.

Because no one disagrees. There is literally no discussion to be had. You are the only person here who is partisan enough to suggest the other side loves arson just to make an inane right vs left point.

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7 minutes ago, jakee said:

You are the only person here who is partisan enough to suggest the other side loves arson just to make an inane right vs left point.

No he is not. I totally agree, but you knew I would. I simply admire his tenacity to continue dealing with you people.

The agenda of the left includes instituting scientific socialism. The intellectual elite have determined that they know what is best for all Americans based their data obtained through mathematics, statistical algorithms, and agreed upon by the like-minded. 

This is a resurgence of the strategy implemented by McNamara and LBJ to manage the Vietnam War. It will produce a similar outcome now. Years of violence, cultural war, and the breakdown of the Republic for the benefit of those intellectual power mongers. They will have the wealth and the rest of us will live in fear.

The rioters are paid for by those that will profit from their lawlessness in the hoped for long run. That is the Luciferian concept. Man will rule above God.

We will not let that happen.

Liberty is worth fighting for. That is part of the American creed, always has been and always will be.

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19 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

This is a resurgence of the strategy implemented by McNamara and LBJ to manage the Vietnam War. It will produce a similar outcome now. Years of violence, cultural war, and the breakdown of the Republic for the benefit of those intellectual power mongers. They will have the wealth and the rest of us will live in fear.

The rioters are paid for by those that will profit from their lawlessness in the hoped for long run. That is the Luciferian concept. Man will rule above God.

We will not let that happen.

Paranoia strikes deep. Into your life it will creep.

But you are correct about one thing. Once again the times they are a changin'. What you are wrong about is "intellectual power mongers". SCOTUS has given the power not to intellectuals but to financial power brokers. You are showing yourself to be a pawn of them.

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2 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

Liberty is worth fighting for. That is part of the American creed, always has been and always will be.

America was founded on liberty. But only liberty for white men. Women and non whites had to and still are scratching and clawing and fighting for their liberty. Their fight is part of the American creed.

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6 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

That is the Luciferian concept. Man will rule above God. We will not let that happen.

Then best move to a country where they put God above government.  Here we put a government of men above God, as the Constitution calls for.

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On 9/3/2020 at 6:12 PM, RonD1120 said:

 

This is a resurgence of the strategy implemented by McNamara and LBJ to manage the Vietnam War. It will produce a similar outcome now. Years of violence, cultural war, and the breakdown of the Republic for the benefit of those intellectual power mongers. They will have the wealth and the rest of us will live in fear.

The rioters are paid for by those that will profit from their lawlessness in the hoped for long run. That is the Luciferian concept. Man will rule above God.

We will not let that happen.

Liberty is worth fighting for. That is part of the American creed, always has been and always will be.

According to Trump, fighting for your country is for losers.

  

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On 8/30/2020 at 3:11 PM, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

Joe Biden has stated that he is NOT for defunding the police.

Anyone who thinks this is a position of the so-called 'left' should do their/some homework.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  And, I agree with Joe Biden.  However, I do believe that there should be changes made; i.e., stop this 'shooting to kill' thing when people are merely walking away.

Jerry - we can't believe anything he says. He's been there for 47 years and will say anything that he's told will get him elected. Just a typical politician and something we need to get rid of.

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