Pity for the USA

[Phil1111 901]

On 5/8/2020 at 12:35 PM, airdvr said:

Collapse?  Get real.  If you want to see a country on the verge of collapse I suggest you look at the US in 1968.

2020 will be the “darkest winter in modern history” if changes are not made, a whistle-blower plans to testify.

What was that trump, open her up?

"Former Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Michael Steele on Wednesday pushed back against President Trump’s claims that coronavirus testing is available to any American who wants one. 

“The narrative, again put into a political context, is what we hear out of the White House is, oh, you know, anybody who wants a test can get a test. No, that's not true,” Steele said in an interview with The Hill’s Steve Clemons.

“You can only get a test under these guidelines: if you're sick or suffering from some form of the virus, you have evidence of that. But if you wanted to leave your home and go to a medical space to get tested because you have concerns, that's not the reality,” he added. "

[wmw999 2,114]

3 hours ago, Coreece said:

On that note, Al Kaline just died last month.

Man. I saw him fire off a throw from deep in the outfield all the way to home plate. Even as a teenager, I was impressed. 
And it Denny McClain, who ended up getting into trouble. It was an exciting season 

I was living in northwestern Ohio at the time, só Detroit was my team. 
 

Wendy P. 

[Coreece 189]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

4 hours ago, Coreece said:

On that note, Al Kaline just died last month.

Man. I saw him fire off a throw from deep in the outfield all the way to home plate. Even as a teenager, I was impressed. 
And it Denny McClain, who ended up getting into trouble. It was an exciting season 

I was living in northwestern Ohio at the time, só Detroit was my team. 
 

Wendy P. 

Some of the biggest Tiger fans are from that area, especially those watching  players come up through Detroit's farm club in Toledo - The Mud Hens.

[airdvr 197]

3 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Man. I saw him fire off a throw from deep in the outfield all the way to home plate. Even as a teenager, I was impressed. 
And it Denny McClain, who ended up getting into trouble. It was an exciting season 

I was living in northwestern Ohio at the time, só Detroit was my team. 
 

Wendy P. 

Where in NW Ohio?  We keep the boat in Port Clinton so we're there every weekend.

[airdvr 197]

6 hours ago, jakee said:

You tried to say that Olof supported assassinations - something neither of you had even mentioned - because he said '68 wasn't so bad. If you want to stick to that argument you're going to have to accept that it applies equally to you, and if you think '68 was so bad you must be opposed to the civil rights act, even though you hadn't mentioned it and there was no indication you were talking about it.

I'm not trying to paint you as a racist, I;m trying to paint you as a guy who is using absurdly bad logic.

It's not a zero sum game.  Lets' see, if I think '68 was bad and the country was being torn apart because of assassinations, riots, and the Democratic National Convention I must be opposed to civil rights?  What world do you live in?

[wmw999 2,114]

I lived in Bowling Green; my father was teaching at the university. 
Wendy P. 

[billvon 2,379]

1 hour ago, airdvr said:

Lets' see, if I think '68 was bad and the country was being torn apart because of assassinations, riots, and the Democratic National Convention I must be opposed to civil rights?  What world do you live in?

Your world.  You said that if he thought 1968 wasn't that bad, that he was saying that "people need to be assassinated in order for their to be change to the good."

Welcome to the world of your own assumptions.

[jakee 1,254]

7 hours ago, airdvr said:

It's not a zero sum game.  Lets' see, if I think '68 was bad and the country was being torn apart because of assassinations, riots, and the Democratic National Convention I must be opposed to civil rights?  What world do you live in?

Oh wow, you still don't get it. You argued that anyone who thought the US wasn't close to collapse in '68 must think that assassinations aren't just good, but they need to happen. I really have no idea what world that comes from, but if you want to keep advancing that argument you're going to have to accept that the same thinking means you must be opposed to civil rights.

[airdvr 197]

8 hours ago, billvon said:

Your world.  You said that if he thought 1968 wasn't that bad, that he was saying that "people need to be assassinated in order for their to be change to the good."

Welcome to the world of your own assumptions.

You needn't welcome me.  I live here and I'm fine with it.  Thanks.

[jakee 1,254]

34 minutes ago, airdvr said:

You needn't welcome me.  I live here and I'm fine with it.  Thanks.

Then you must be fine with the fact that you've made it clear you think the civil rights act nearly destroyed the US. Don't really get why you're grumbling then.

[billvon 2,379]

5 hours ago, airdvr said:

You needn't welcome me.  I live here and I'm fine with it.  Thanks.

Great.  So you opposed the Civil Rights act.  Got it.

[Phil1111 901]

G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia

"A sprawling report released Tuesday by a Republican-controlled Senate panel that spent three years investigating Russia’s 2016 election interference laid out an extensive web of contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Russian government officials and other Russians, including some with ties to the country’s intelligence services.

The report by the Senate Intelligence Committee, totaling nearly 1,000 pages, provided a bipartisan Senate imprimatur for an extraordinary set of facts: The Russian government undertook an extensive campaign to try to sabotage the 2016 American election to help Mr. Trump become president, and some members of Mr. Trump’s circle of advisers were open to the help from an American adversary."

In a further report on the matter of treason from Politico:

"Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign chairman Paul Manafort worked closely with a Russian intelligence officer who may have been involved in the hack and release of Democratic emails during the election, the Senate Intelligence Committee concluded in a bipartisan report released Tuesday.

It’s the furthest U.S. officials have gone in describing Konstantin Kilimnik, a longtime Manafort business associate, as an agent of the Russian government. The disclosure was part of the committee’s fifth and final installment of its investigation of the Kremlin’s interference in the 2016 presidential election."

Old news really  four years later and Russia is helping its best investment ever get re-elected. trump's supporters have ordered new helpings of borsch and vareniki.

Edited August 18, 2020 by Phil1111

[murps2000 86]

5 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia

"A sprawling report released Tuesday by a Republican-controlled Senate panel that spent three years investigating Russia’s 2016 election interference laid out an extensive web of contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Russian government officials and other Russians, including some with ties to the country’s intelligence services.

The report by the Senate Intelligence Committee, totaling nearly 1,000 pages, provided a bipartisan Senate imprimatur for an extraordinary set of facts: The Russian government undertook an extensive campaign to try to sabotage the 2016 American election to help Mr. Trump become president, and some members of Mr. Trump’s circle of advisers were open to the help from an American adversary."

In a further report on the matter of treason from Politico:

"Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign chairman Paul Manafort worked closely with a Russian intelligence officer who may have been involved in the hack and release of Democratic emails during the election, the Senate Intelligence Committee concluded in a bipartisan report released Tuesday.

It’s the furthest U.S. officials have gone in describing Konstantin Kilimnik, a longtime Manafort business associate, as an agent of the Russian government. The disclosure was part of the committee’s fifth and final installment of its investigation of the Kremlin’s interference in the 2016 presidential election."

Old news really  four years later and Russia is helping its best investment ever get re-elected. trump's supporters have ordered new helpings of borsch and vareniki.

Funny they could have just read the Mueller report.