JoeWeber 2,294 #26 April 16, 2020 36 minutes ago, airdvr said: Who was Slick Willy thinking about when he was getting head in the oval office? Monica? Did I win? What's my prize? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #27 April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: I see their violence as evil. What were you trying to imply with this comment: "I think you should tell these guys in person. (At least 6 feet away, of course)?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,384 #28 April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, airdvr said: Who was Slick Willy thinking about when he was getting head in the oval office? Don't forget Benghazi. And her emails. It's right there on the list of things you are supposed to use to distract and deflect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,047 #29 April 16, 2020 6 hours ago, JoeWeber said: I think it's more like, finally stupid people get to carry stupid guns to the courthouse and wear masks. Hi Joe, Now it reads better. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #30 April 16, 2020 4 hours ago, wmw999 said: I guess I took your statement that someone should tell them in person as "if you dare -- they have guns." And that's the part I disagree with. The protest, no, of course not. Using the potential for intimidation in this manner is more troubling. I see this as being VERY different from using a baseball bat to get the point across to the goober with his drone next door. Wendy P. The goober next door is breaking the law in a different way. I'm thinking it is for pleasure rather than for protest. If the protesters are legally allowed to carry the weapons during their protest and its peaceful, then that is that, until someone changes the legality of it. I don't agree with it. I don't like it. I will defend their right to do it though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #31 April 16, 2020 3 hours ago, SkyDekker said: What were you trying to imply with this comment: "I think you should tell these guys in person. (At least 6 feet away, of course)?" If I disagreed as strongly as was being suggested, I would go out there and say something to them, not just complain from afar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #32 April 16, 2020 4 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Monica? Did I win? What's my prize? Well - it likely wasn't Hillary. Just sayin'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #33 April 16, 2020 4 hours ago, gowlerk said: Hmmm.... how many victims hurt or killed? Because of the violence - All the victims were hurt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #34 April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: If I disagreed as strongly as was being suggested, I would go out there and say something to them, not just complain from afar. lol, that's what you meant....while opining on a website. You really are just trolling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,903 #35 April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, turtlespeed said: Because of the violence - All the victims were hurt. That's a nice way of saying nothing. Antifa does seem to me to be a bunch of over the top drama queens. And it's true that any people in gangs or groups can get carried away and do stupid harmful things. But this very loose knit protest group is pretty mild compared to the real damage and killing done by some of the various flavours of right wing idiots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #36 April 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: If I disagreed as strongly as was being suggested, I would go out there and say something to them, not just complain from afar. Which would also be in contravention of the Michigan stay at home order and extremely hypocritical. I am therefore entirely unsurprised the suggestion comes from you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #37 April 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: lol, that's what you meant....while opining on a website. You really are just trolling. I don't feel as strongly about it then, do I? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #38 April 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, gowlerk said: That's a nice way of saying nothing. Antifa does seem to me to be a bunch of over the top drama queens. And it's true that any people in gangs or groups can get carried away and do stupid harmful things. But this very loose knit protest group is pretty mild compared to the real damage and killing done by some of the various flavours of right wing idiots. So what they did is OK , because someone on the right did it worse. That's your argument? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,903 #39 April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: So what they did is OK , because someone on the right did it worse. That's your argument? My argument is that they have done very little. Not that two wrongs make a right. But 100 wrongs are greater than 1 wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #40 April 16, 2020 Just now, gowlerk said: My argument is that they have done very little. Not that two wrongs make a right. But 100 wrongs are greater than 1 wrong. Why be accepting of any of them? Why defend them at all? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,903 #41 April 16, 2020 Just now, turtlespeed said: Why be accepting of any of them? Why defend them at all? Because they are mostly a peaceful protest group. I am not defending any violence. I am objecting to Antifa being labelled as something it is not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,294 #42 April 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Well - it likely wasn't Hillary. Just sayin'. You definitely add emphasis and new meaning to the comment just sayin' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #43 April 16, 2020 Just now, turtlespeed said: Why be accepting of any of them? Why defend them at all? First, you can disagree with someone and still defend them from unfair criticism - like you trying to tie them to two unrelated murderers for example (an accusation I believe you are yet to withdraw). Sure, some of them may not be nice people, but that doesn't mean you should be able to make up stuff about them and get away with it unchallenged. Second, you defend Trump all the time by pointing out that you think someone else, Obama or Clinton or Pelosi or whoever, is as bad or worse. Why do you do that, when it never makes anything Trump has done any less bad? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,117 #44 April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: Why be accepting of any of them? Why defend them at all? I'm not sure that failing to attack them is defending them. If you have one group doing a lot of harm, and another doing some harm, which do you go after first? Should be the one doing a lot of harm. Unless, of course, they're powerful or connected -- then you go after the little guy, because it's less likely to bite you in the ass. Which is where that whole abuse of power thing comes in, isn't it? Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #45 April 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Which is where that whole abuse of power thing comes in, isn't it? Wendy P. In a lot of cases, yes, that’s accurate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #46 April 19, 2020 Antifa is just a fun-loving bunch of kids who enjoy a good riot. Half of Antifa don’t care which side of the riot they represent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #47 April 19, 2020 Antifa led the fashion for wearing face masks in public. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
