SivaGanesha 2 #101 April 30, 2020 (edited) I don't know who Biden will pick, but on the list you've provided I'd pick either Rice or Whitmer. Tulsi Gabbard would be an option too. My sole criterion is that it should be a strong woman who is not currently sitting in the US Senate. It needs to be understood that when we pick a VP, we are effectively picking a US Senator, because the VP casts the tie breaking vote. The prospect of a deadlocked Senate after the 2020 election is high enough that I believe this should be the only criterion. Democrats should view the VP choice as an opportunity to pick up a seat in the Senate. As such we should not be picking for a VP someone who is already sitting in the Senate, since we need their strong voices there. Even if the VP comes from a state with a Democratic governor who would surely appoint a Democratic replacement, appointments of that kind are going to be much weaker than an elected Senator with seniority. It is an extreme example, but the appointed Roland Burris proved to be a lot weaker than the elected Senator he replaced (Barack Obama). The Democrats lost that seat in the next election. Now that Democrats have again won that seat back (Tammy Duckworth) I think Duckworth and all strong women in the Senate should remain just that--strong women in the Senate. But I do think Biden is right to want to pick a woman. I just think it should be a woman from outside the US Senate with one possible exception I'll now mention. If I were Biden, and given how unusual this election is in multiple ways, I would be at least toying with the idea of pulling an Abe Lincoln and turning to a strong, but moderate, Republican woman to help unify the country. Susan Collins comes to mind. Edited April 30, 2020 by SivaGanesha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #102 April 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, SivaGanesha said: If I were Biden, and given how unusual this election is in multiple ways, I would be at least toying with the idea of pulling an Abe Lincoln and turning to a strong, but moderate, Republican woman to help unify the country. Susan Collins comes to mind. I wish that was a possibility, or, rather, a likelihood. It would definitely make a difference in my voting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #103 May 30, 2020 I don't think it will be Klobuchar. https://www.yahoo.com/news/amy-klobuchars-position-2006-shooting-165728858.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,902 #104 May 30, 2020 3 hours ago, headoverheels said: I don't think it will be Klobuchar. https://www.yahoo.com/news/amy-klobuchars-position-2006-shooting-165728858.html She is a sitting Senator. It will not be someone who holds such a valuable position anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,294 #105 May 30, 2020 On 4/30/2020 at 9:53 AM, turtlespeed said: I'm serious when I ask what is wrong with Tulsi Gabbard? I'm serious when I ask: "what is wrong with you?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,294 #106 May 30, 2020 On 4/30/2020 at 2:24 PM, turtlespeed said: I wish that was a possibility, or, rather, a likelihood. It would definitely make a difference in my voting. How so? Would you spin the wheel in the opposite direction? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #107 May 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: How so? Would you spin the wheel in the opposite direction? I think you mean in the best direction - Or are you simply JUST a Partisan, and unable to see across the aisle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,294 #108 May 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I think you mean in the best direction - Or are you simply JUST a Partisan, and unable to see across the aisle? This year I'm a partisan. Frankly, I'm more than flummoxed that anyone who fancies themselves a thoughtful person could, at this juncture, believe that Trump/Pence might the better choice than a Biden/Howdy Doody ticket come November. That you would so imply is why many here see you as thoughtless and a troll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,380 #109 May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: This year I'm a partisan. Frankly, I'm more than flummoxed that anyone who fancies themselves a thoughtful person could, at this juncture, believe that Trump/Pence might the better choice than a Biden/Howdy Doody ticket come November. That you would so imply is why many here see you as thoughtless and a troll. I'd vote for Biden/Charlie Sheen over Trump/Pence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,380 #110 May 30, 2020 2 hours ago, gowlerk said: She is a sitting Senator. It will not be someone who holds such a valuable position anyway. Agreed. I think they would be crazy to give up a Senate seat for a VP choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #111 May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, ryoder said: Agreed. I think they would be crazy to give up a Senate seat for a VP choice. Like Biden did with Obama? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #112 May 30, 2020 4 hours ago, gowlerk said: She is a sitting Senator. It will not be someone who holds such a valuable position anyway. Another Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party member would replace her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,046 #113 May 30, 2020 4 hours ago, JoeWeber said: #1) Frankly, I'm more than flummoxed that anyone who fancies themselves a thoughtful person could, at this juncture, believe that Trump/Pence might the better choice than a Biden/Howdy Doody ticket come November. #2) That you would so imply is why many here see you as thoughtless and a troll. Hi Joe, I could not agree more with both points. Sometimes it is as simple as 'the truth hurts.' Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #114 May 30, 2020 5 hours ago, JoeWeber said: This year I'm a partisan. Frankly, I'm more than flummoxed that anyone who fancies themselves a thoughtful person could, at this juncture, believe that Trump/Pence might the better choice than a Biden/Howdy Doody ticket come November. That you would so imply is why many here see you as thoughtless and a troll. What's the point in being anything but partisan this year, or from now on? Where does looking across the aisle get you with rebublicans? Dems could play nice and try to compromise all they want but republicans will still try to screw them over any chance they get. It's no longer about getting along but about winning. McConnell & Graham must know this, as it seems evident by their encouragement of older judges to step down before the end of Trump's first term so they can continue packing the courts. I will gladly cast my vote for Biden/LiMu Emu this fall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,294 #115 May 30, 2020 1 minute ago, murps2000 said: I will gladly cast my vote for Biden/LiMu Emu this fall. As will I, but I have to say I'm getting pretty excited about a Biden/Charlie Sheen ticket. Talk about scarfing in the all important douchebag vote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #116 May 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, murps2000 said: What's the point in being anything but partisan this year, or from now on? It sets a good example. It is better than being closed minded. It is better than the image of the die hard republican you hold. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #117 May 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, murps2000 said: It's no longer about getting along but about winning. This reminds me of the words "He's been impeached forever!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #118 May 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: It sets a good example. It is better than being closed minded. It is better than the image of the die hard republican you hold. A good example for whom? Rebublicans? They won't follow it even if you set one. Whether or not rank & file party members are die hard or not, this is the reality with the officials they have elected. More specifically it is the reality with the party's leadership. You're right, I absolutely do have a closed mind at present, but that is because it is made up. After what happened with Merrick Garland's SC nomination I knew there was no other way. The past four years have merely solidified that position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #119 May 30, 2020 53 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: This reminds me of the words "He's been impeached forever!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites