brenthutch 383 #76 April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, JoeWeber said: I assume you're talking a V shaped stock market recovery. In the trenches it might be a very different story. For example, do you believe a switch gets thrown someday soon and every DZ is back to normal? To a large extent the stock market has recovered. As far as the rest of the economy goes, we will just have to wait and see what two trillion + dollars does to a recovery from a downturn that had no underlying economic cause. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #77 April 14, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, brenthutch said: To a large extent the stock market has recovered. As far as the rest of the economy goes, we will just have to wait and see what two trillion + dollars does to a recovery from a downturn that had no underlying economic cause. What is going to be funny, and is already happening, is the blame that POTUS will have to weather through about how much he increased the debt. The left will happily tack that 2.2T that they approved onto the blame game when the numbers come out - I'd be surprised if it doesn't become a huge talking point in the upcoming election. One side of their mouth they are ecstatic that the stimulus went through and the other side already is, or will be condemning for the exact same action. Edited April 14, 2020 by turtlespeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #78 April 14, 2020 Democrats aren't really know for their fiscal constraint. To be fair Republicans only care about it when the other party is in power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #79 April 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: No. Why would I? Cause then you would understand why it is sad there is a home for him in the Republican Party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #80 April 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: What is going to be funny, and is already happening, is the blame that POTUS will have to weather through about how much he increased the debt. The left will happily tack that 2.2T that they approved onto the blame game when the numbers come out - I'd be surprised if it doesn't become a huge talking point in the upcoming election. One side of their mouth they are ecstatic that the stimulus went through and the other side already is, or will be condemning for the exact same action. It has indeed been funny to watch Republicans, even those on here continue to complain about socialism yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #81 April 14, 2020 Just now, SkyDekker said: It has indeed been funny to watch Republicans, even those on here continue to complain about socialism yes. I know of a few Republicans here. Thankfully, most, like myself, are conservatives that don't affiliate with the polar outlook that you do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #82 April 14, 2020 46 minutes ago, brenthutch said: To a large extent the stock market has recovered. As far as the rest of the economy goes, we will just have to wait and see what two trillion + dollars does to a recovery from a downturn that had no underlying economic cause. I suppose. The good news is that at least $30,000 in airport subsidies is going to your airport. That, and the rest of the dole to come, should help keep the rents low. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #83 April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: What is going to be funny, and is already happening, is the blame that POTUS will have to weather through about how much he increased the debt. The left will happily tack that 2.2T that they approved onto the blame game when the numbers come out - Of course. He demanded it. Now he's bragging about it. He owns it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #84 April 14, 2020 3 hours ago, brenthutch said: JFK would not have a home in todays Democratic party. Cut taxes for the rich Yep, if JFK came along today and proposed a top rate tax band of 65% he'd be out there with Bernie in the "far too socialist" wilderness. Honestly, this goes along with your ludicrous suggestion that the super rich aren't hoarding money as evidence that you don't quite get how far the financial times have changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #85 April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: Trump engendered great passion among his supporters. The enthusiasm gap between Trump supporters and Biden supporters is HUGE. So? Doesn't matter how brainwashed the hardcore who go to his rallies are, they still only get to vote once. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #86 April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: Trump engendered great passion among his supporters. Indeed. They have beaten and crippled people for Trump. One of them even murdered for him. The left just can't seem to find that sort of passion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,911 #87 April 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, billvon said: The left just can't seem to find that sort of passion. We haven't had that spirit here since 1969. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,382 #88 April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, gowlerk said: We haven't had that spirit here since 1969. We are all just prisoners here of our own device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #89 April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, ryoder said: We are all just prisoners here of our own device You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,911 #90 April 14, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ryoder said: We are all just prisoners here of our own device Well, if we really want to get into the real spirit of the 60s left I give you the best chronicler... Come senators, congressmenPlease heed the callDon't stand in the doorwayDon't block up the hallFor he that gets hurtWill be he who has stalledThe battle outside ragin'Will soon shake your windowsAnd rattle your wallsFor the times they are a-changin' But somehow I don't see the Senator from Delaware living up to anything like these ideals. Edited April 14, 2020 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #91 April 15, 2020 2 hours ago, gowlerk said: We haven't had that spirit here since 1969. What about ANTIFA? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #92 April 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: What about ANTIFA? Wrong song. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #93 April 15, 2020 5 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi airdvr, The same was thought of Trump in early Nov 2016. Jerry Baumchen Very true...hell the same was thought about him on election night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,911 #94 April 15, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: What about ANTIFA? You mean the boogeyman? How many terrorist attacks has this so called organization launched. How many churches has it blown up shot up or burned down? Edited April 15, 2020 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #95 April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, gowlerk said: You mean the boogeyman? How many terrorist attacks has this so called organization launched. How many churches has it blown up shot up or burned down? https://nypost.com/2019/08/06/dayton-shooter-may-be-antifas-first-mass-killer/ https://forward.com/opinion/428960/the-dayton-murderer-is-proof-we-need-to-take-left-wing-violence-seriously/ 1 is too many. Here are two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #96 April 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: https://nypost.com/2019/08/06/dayton-shooter-may-be-antifas-first-mass-killer/ https://forward.com/opinion/428960/the-dayton-murderer-is-proof-we-need-to-take-left-wing-violence-seriously/ 1 is too many. Here are two. Both those quotes are of the same incident. both state no known link to ANTIFA. Do you ever bother to read anything you reference? Or like trump do you dispense with reading? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #97 April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Phil1111 said: Or like trump do you dispense with reading? Hi Phil, I am very sure that you know the answer to your question. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #98 April 15, 2020 18 hours ago, JoeWeber said: I'll take $50 betting on Biden. And so it is. I was waiting to see who else felt strongly enough about Joe but it looks like it's just you. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #99 April 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, airdvr said: And so it is. I was waiting to see who else felt strongly enough about Joe but it looks like it's just you. To be clear, I feel more strongly about toe jam than I do Joe Biden. Simply, he's who will be the nominee and I'm willing to toss $50 bucks down the crapper for no other reason than to put value to my hopes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #100 April 15, 2020 7 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Phil, I am very sure that you know the answer to your question. Jerry Baumchen Yeah rhetorical. Fact checking Turtle, Brent,or trump. All rhetorical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites