AStack75 4 #26 March 19, 2020 Skydive City is closed for jumping. We told you we would re-evaluate jumping with input from staff and jumpers. Yesterday, we 'postponed' tandems. Today, we are ceasing jumping. We remain open to handle business. The constructive input of everyone who cares about Skydive City on the wisest course of action has been most appreciated. Thank you everyone! *We are still planning to rock Flamingo Fest April 8-12. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 599 #27 March 19, 2020 20 hours ago, gowlerk said: I like the idea of a harness that keeps the student six feet away! It reminds me of the old joke about the blind jumper and the seeing eye dog. We could always to civilian tandems the same way soldiers do tandem bundle jumps: threaten to kiss the student. As they run off the ramp, follow a few metres (yards) behind and let a static-line deploy your drogue. If you worry about light-weight students free-falling above you, just hang a water-barrel off them and drain it under canopy to reduce landing speed. Can I get a patent on that concept? Hah! Hah! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,567 #28 March 20, 2020 8 hours ago, AStack75 said: Skydive City is closed for jumping. We told you we would re-evaluate jumping with input from staff and jumpers. Yesterday, we 'postponed' tandems. Today, we are ceasing jumping. We remain open to handle business. The constructive input of everyone who cares about Skydive City on the wisest course of action has been most appreciated. Thank you everyone! *We are still planning to rock Flamingo Fest April 8-12. Everyone, The reality is that, except for lap dances at your favorite strip club, few businesses press their customers together as we do. This is no time to pretend that we know better or are different. Nor is it a time to believe this will be over in two weeks. We'll still be Skydivers a month or two months from now. Let's all just stay chill, not press the issue or our DZO's and find another muse for a couple of months. That's being smart. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,099 #29 March 20, 2020 This just popped up: Several airports want to close in wake of pandemic From CNN's Geneva Sands The Federal Aviation Administration has received several requests from federally-funded airports, asking to close and restrict airport access, according to the agency. The FAA generally does not allow closure of airports that receive federal funds and any request must be approved by the agency. The agency is reviewing requests from Puerto Rico and Tangier, Virginia, an island town located in the Chesapeake Bay. Earlier Thursday, CNN reported that Puerto Rico's governor, Wanda Vazquez Garced, wanted to redirect all flights to enter through the international airport to centralize screenings. "It's severe but I think we can" work with the FAA on this, she said. According to the FAA, Vázquez and the Puerto Rico Ports Authority submitted proposals to restrict airport access and close airports in Puerto Rico. Additionally, the town of Tangier, in Virginia, wants FAA approval to close Tangier Island Airport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20kN 93 #30 March 20, 2020 Yes there are still many DZs that are still jumping. However, I think after a month the only place you're going to find any open businesses are those located on Antarctica or the military/ government/ hospitals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raftman 12 #31 March 20, 2020 All Skydive Spaceland locations are now closed till April 2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,462 #32 March 20, 2020 Not entirely my idea, I've seen variations bouncing around on FB: Do you really want to jump? Do you want to risk getting hurt and needing to go into a hospital when all the ICU beds are full? Not just 'full of covid-19 cases' but 'full to the point that they can't take you in'? It's been a long winter and I was looking forward to getting up. But I don't see it happening any time soon. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20kN 93 #33 March 20, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: h Edited March 20, 2020 by 20kN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eatfastnoodle 2 #34 March 21, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 6:28 PM, 20kN said: Yes there are still many DZs that are still jumping. However, I think after a month the only place you're going to find any open businesses are those located on Antarctica or the military/ government/ hospitals. weren't US troops in Europe in quarantine and troops in Iraq stopped some training work and redeployed to larger bases? I doubt military in the US is in a hurry to do parachute training right now, soldiers are just as humans as the rest of us and of all training they must do, jumping is the least immediately useful and has one of the highest, given how densely packed soldiers would be, risk of spreading the infection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20kN 93 #35 March 21, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, eatfastnoodle said: weren't US troops in Europe in quarantine and troops in Iraq stopped some training work and redeployed to larger bases? I doubt military in the US is in a hurry to do parachute training right now, soldiers are just as humans as the rest of us and of all training they must do, jumping is the least immediately useful and has one of the highest, given how densely packed soldiers would be, risk of spreading the infection. Hua? What are you talking about. What I said was: 1. Yes there are still some [civilian] dropzones that are still running loads as of this moment. Not all DZs are closed. 2. Eventually everything may be closed except for the military, hospitals and other government entities. Edited March 21, 2020 by 20kN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
verticalflyer 11 #36 March 22, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 8:54 PM, gowlerk said: Tandem is not compatible with social distancing. Bungee Tandem, student leads, instructor follows Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 320 #37 March 23, 2020 On 3/21/2020 at 2:04 PM, eatfastnoodle said: weren't US troops in Europe in quarantine and troops in Iraq stopped some training work and redeployed to larger bases? I doubt military in the US is in a hurry to do parachute training right now, soldiers are just as humans as the rest of us and of all training they must do, jumping is the least immediately useful and has one of the highest, given how densely packed soldiers would be, risk of spreading the infection. they gotta jump at least every three months to stay current to get jump pay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #38 March 25, 2020 (edited) On 3/20/2020 at 9:28 PM, wolfriverjoe said: Not entirely my idea, I've seen variations bouncing around on FB: Do you really want to jump? Do you want to risk getting hurt and needing to go into a hospital when all the ICU beds are full? Not just 'full of covid-19 cases' but 'full to the point that they can't take you in'? It's been a long winter and I was looking forward to getting up. But I don't see it happening any time soon. In the Netherlands, social distancing is not applicable for families. So my wife and I (who both have the necessary Mad Skillz) decided we could jump from, say, a rented 172 if we adopted a pilot. Then we realised that many of the (volunteer) pillots at our club are also commercial airline pilots. We briefly considered the amount of college debt your average pilot incurs during their study and decided we'd wait until the preventative measures are revoked, along with everyone else. Edited March 25, 2020 by Baksteen 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timski 80 #39 March 25, 2020 On 3/23/2020 at 1:41 PM, sfzombie13 said: they gotta jump at least every three months to stay current to get jump pay. Wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 320 #40 March 25, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, timski said: Wrong. when did they change that rule? i got out in '04 and we had to jump every three months or lose our jump pay. same for active duty. i even went on a fun jump at ft bragg once to maintain my jump pay. Edited March 25, 2020 by sfzombie13 added a thought Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timski 80 #41 March 25, 2020 Just now, sfzombie13 said: when did they change that rule? i got out in '04 and we had to jump every three months or lose our jump pay. same for active duty. I left active in 02, deployments were the only thing that kept me from staying current, obviously we kept getting paid. It's a different animal now, for sure!... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 320 #42 March 25, 2020 you had a waiver from dod to not jump while deployed. we had to jump while deployed but it was a spec ops unit and we all got foreign jump wings. i was rear det and didn't get mine, in fact, i was off jump status for two months with a broken ankle and had to forfeit jump pay. some units are more lax than others, but i was the admin and i can assure you that at the time, the regs were in place and most units followed them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timski 80 #43 March 25, 2020 MORAL OF THIS STORY: Start taking this shit serious. The sooner the better. You know who you are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmp4842 0 #44 March 26, 2020 Governor Brad Little issued a statewide order asking all residents to “stay at home.” in Idaho starting today for the next 21 days. Sky Down Skydiving hopefully will resume jumping April 17th. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,567 #45 March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, dmp4842 said: Governor Brad Little issued a statewide order asking all residents to “stay at home.” in Idaho starting today for the next 21 days. Sky Down Skydiving hopefully will resume jumping April 17th. Instead of hopefully on any future day, how about hopefully someday all of our brothers and sisters will again be able to gather together to do this incredible thing we do? Please, don't force the issue or press your DZO's with dates that create expectations that cannot be assured. We'll still be skydivers when this passes. Stay chill. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SivaGanesha 2 #46 March 26, 2020 19 hours ago, Baksteen said: In the Netherlands, social distancing is not applicable for families. Then the Netherlands is approaching this wrong and putting the planet at risk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #47 March 26, 2020 (edited) That's quite the conclusion you draw, based on a post that was clearly a so-called "joke" (look it up sometime). But for you information, I meant families as in parents and children living in the same home. Not as in aunts, uncles, parents and children living elsewhere. I am not going to justify or even explain the measures my country takes, which I fully support. I'm not a doctor, but a laboratory technician who works with different viruses. You can look them up yourself, provided of course you can see the screen of your tablet from the back of your high horse. Edited March 26, 2020 by Baksteen 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SivaGanesha 2 #48 March 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Baksteen said: Families as in parents and children living in the same home, du-uh. Still wrong at least in some circumstances. There will be circumstances when husbands need to self isolate from wives to fight this. There will be circumstances when mothers need to self isolate from their children to fight this. There will be circumstances when this is needed even when they live in the same home. No one is exempt and no human relationship guarantees exemption. This whole thing is REALLY serious and no one is exempt no matter what their relationship might be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SivaGanesha 2 #49 March 26, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Baksteen said: That's quite the conclusion you draw, based on a post that was clearly a so-called "joke" (look it up sometime). Nothing about COVID-19 is funny. I will not apologize for getting on my "high horse" on this. Close friends of mine are on a ship that was in Antarctic waters before this COVID-19 thing became serious. Their ship has been roaming the world looking for a place to dock that will let them in, and they may end up, against their will, in the Netherlands (their ship's home country) before too long. I hope they will find a place that is not too badly infected. I recognize that my attitude here is that of a tight-assed asshole, and I make no apologies for acting like a tight-assed asshole in times like this. Social distancing is applicable to EVERYONE, even immediate family living together, in times like this. Period. Edited March 26, 2020 by SivaGanesha noting they don't want to be in the Netherlands but COVID-19 may force them there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #50 March 26, 2020 You have convinced me. I have notified the Dutch government and they will issue the measures you mandate as soon as possible. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites