airdvr 200 #101 March 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Phil1111 said: That explains the headache. Some client probably asked you to cut a $1,000,000 listing commission from 7% to 6%. Assholes! Hehe..no one gets those kind of percentages on a $1,000,000 listing. You've been watching too much HGTV, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,286 #102 March 16, 2020 55 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: The Dow closed at 19,827.25 on trump's Inauguration Day, Jan. 20, 2017. Its 20,188.52 today so up 361.27. That would be a second or two of trading tomorrow to wipe out his "achievements". There is no point in speculating on how much more he can drive the economy down til Jan 20, 2021. Far be it from me to support the orange Cheeto-head, but I wouldn’t put the current drop all down to Trump. His cavalier attitude early didn’t help, and he’s not helping things now either, but it’s not all on him. Only part of jt Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,672 #103 March 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Far be it from me to support the orange Cheeto-head, but I wouldn’t put the current drop all down to Trump. His cavalier attitude early didn’t help, and he’s not helping things now either, but it’s not all on him. Only part of jt Agreed there. The huge drop during his speech was almost certainly his doing. The remainder was due to a combination of confusion (caused partly by Trump) panic over the Coronavirus and actual slowdowns in tourism, trade and production. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,061 #104 March 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Far be it from me to support the orange Cheeto-head, but I wouldn’t put the current drop all down to Trump. His cavalier attitude early didn’t help, and he’s not helping things now either, but it’s not all on him. Party pooper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,267 #105 March 16, 2020 50 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Far be it from me to support the orange Cheeto-head, but I wouldn’t put the current drop all down to Trump. His cavalier attitude early didn’t help, and he’s not helping things now either, but it’s not all on him. Only part of jt Wendy P. Agreed. However he and his supporters have certainly claimed all the increases for him. Only logical to then tie the decreases to him as well. Live by the sword and all... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,044 #106 March 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, billvon said: Agreed there. The huge drop during his speech was almost certainly his doing. The remainder was due to a combination of confusion (caused partly by Trump) panic over the Coronavirus and actual slowdowns in tourism, trade and production. Wendy is right, but the President gets the credit and suffers the criticisms from the markets. The $1.5 trillion of tax cuts and QE of the first three years has been pissed away to be paid by the children of todays America. IMO the market decline is being driven in part by the lack of leadership from the top. It seemed as if today the message is finally getting through. But I'm sure tweets and foolishness will walk that back by tomorrow. The public emergency declaration gives the president unlimited powers. Yet the talking points of active suppression of the virus comes from governors. What the markets and the public need is leadership. How about leadership like: We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in the factories, we shall fight in the clinics and hospitals, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the schools, we shall defend our people, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight in the laboratories, we shall fight in the pharmacies, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, trump should be signing executive orders as if the virus was little brown illegal immigrants invading from overseas. Ordering 24 hour a day production of what hospitals need with contract pricing to be determined by a independent arbitrator. Masks, ventilators, cleaning solutions,test kits, mobile clinics in every city and on and on. Oh well wishful thinking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 416 #107 March 17, 2020 10 hours ago, kallend said: https://www.npr.org/2020/03/16/816382835/stocks-shudder-despite-emergency-measures Has anyone noticed a pattern in stock market crashes? Hoover (R) Reagan (R) GWB (R) Trump (R) The stock market is a future indicator. It doesn't worry about the current situation it prices in future difficulties. Roosevelt (D) Clinton (D) Obama (spread your wealth around) (D) Biden/Sanders (D) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #108 March 17, 2020 44 minutes ago, brenthutch said: The stock market is a future indicator. It doesn't worry about the current situation it prices in future difficulties. Roosevelt (D) Clinton (D) Obama (spread your wealth around) (D) Biden/Sanders (D) This is hands down one of your most laughable takes yet. Absolutely breathtaking, well done... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #109 March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: The stock market is a future indicator. It doesn't worry about the current situation it prices in future difficulties. Roosevelt (D) Clinton (D) Obama (spread your wealth around) (D) Biden/Sanders (D) So the fact it tanked IMMEDIATELY after Trumps emergency speech was pure coincidence? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,061 #110 March 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: The stock market is a future indicator. It doesn't worry about the current situation it prices in future difficulties. Roosevelt (D) Clinton (D) Obama (spread your wealth around) (D) Biden/Sanders (D) So then, I guess that means that the future always looks brighter when a D is in office. Edited March 17, 2020 by gowlerk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,044 #111 March 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, yoink said: So the fact it tankeds IMMEDIATELY after every time trump makes emergency speeches was pure coincidence? Fixed it for you Dow futures drop 1,100 points as Trump speech fails to calm investors rattled by coronavirus fears Global stocks plunge after Trump announces coronavirus response package The Dow Plunged 623 Points Because Trump Spooked the Market Right After Powell Soothed It Dow Plunges 3,000 Points As Trump Says U.S. ‘May Be’ Headed For Recession Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,314 #112 March 17, 2020 8 hours ago, brenthutch said: The stock market is a future indicator. It doesn't worry about the current situation You posted in the wrong thread. A joke this good should be in 'election humour'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 416 #113 March 17, 2020 9 hours ago, yoink said: So the fact it tanked IMMEDIATELY after Trumps emergency speech was pure coincidence? No, his poor performance virtually assures that Biden/Sanders will be our next president, the markets responded accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,044 #114 March 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, brenthutch said: No, his poor performance virtually assures that Biden/Sanders will be our next president, Its amazing what pressure can do some time to bring focus to the mind. Welcome back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #115 March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: No, his poor performance virtually assures that Biden/Sanders will be our next president, the markets responded accordingly. what would happen if health safety does not allow for an election ? (serious question) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 416 #116 March 17, 2020 Trump declare a state of emergency, cancel the election and make himself king. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 26 #117 March 17, 2020 15 hours ago, airdvr said: Hehe..no one gets those kind of percentages on a $1,000,000 listing. You've been watching too much HGTV, Is that what you were told? Interesting ;-) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 200 #118 March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Remster said: Is that what you were told? Interesting ;-) Not here in Ohio anyways... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,780 #119 March 17, 2020 It's a good job we paid down the debt when times were good! https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/03/17/trump-coronavirus-stimulus-package/ (Or did we?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,780 #120 March 17, 2020 Hmmmmm Trump now wants a SOCIALIST solution to a crisis in capitalism that has been enabled by his own ineptitude. People are saying that deserves a yuge Irony Score, bigly. (I'm sure it will involve a significant personal benefit to him and his family) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 715 #121 March 18, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, kallend said: Hmmmmm Trump now wants a SOCIALIST solution to a crisis in capitalism that has been enabled by his own ineptitude. People are saying that deserves a yuge Irony Score, bigly. (I'm sure it will involve a significant personal benefit to him and his family) If you take your bribe, I mean the cash contributions, you'll be happy with Trump! /s Edited March 18, 2020 by normiss stoopid fingers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #122 March 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, normiss said: If you take your bride, I mean the cash contributions, you'll be happy with Trump! /s I think it's kinda inappropriate talking about his wife that way - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,061 #123 March 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, normiss said: If you take your bride, I mean the cash contributions, you'll be happy with Trump! 6 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I think it's kinda inappropriate talking about his wife that way - Bride, bribe either way Trump buys and sells everything in his life. Even with the small editing error normiss is correct. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 715 #124 March 18, 2020 3 hours ago, gowlerk said: Bride, bribe either way Trump buys and sells everything in his life. Even with the small editing error normiss is correct. Stoopid fingers. Thanks. I would also expect the $2000 being "given" to taxpayers isn't actually a gift. Just wait for the forms..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,512 #125 March 18, 2020 16 hours ago, brenthutch said: No, his poor performance virtually assures that Biden/Sanders will be our next president, the markets responded accordingly. I hope you have another gig besides political analysis now that your day job has evaporated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites