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My wife is an MD and among her network of colleagues is an ICU doc in Tucson.  He says his hospital's ICU is really stressed right now due to a spike on severe CV-19 cases.  Another case of opening up too soon?

https://tucson.com/news/local/rising-covid-19-cases-prompt-city-of-tucson-to-delay-reopening-of-its-facilities/article_80b875c1-69cd-5c90-8e37-f1fb83ca706d.html

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1 hour ago, kallend said:

My wife is an MD and among her network of colleagues is an ICU doc in Tucson.  He says his hospital's ICU is really stressed right now due to a spike on severe CV-19 cases.  Another case of opening up too soon?

https://tucson.com/news/local/rising-covid-19-cases-prompt-city-of-tucson-to-delay-reopening-of-its-facilities/article_80b875c1-69cd-5c90-8e37-f1fb83ca706d.html

This was and is inevitable. The virus is not going away. There will be hot spots as we slowly adapt to the new reality. Until this thing has an effective vaccine or most of us are exposed it will move through the world like a smouldering fire. Population centres will be very vulnerable to having their hospitals go through periods of being overwhelmed. I don't think of it as opening up too soon, but rather opening up too widely. But there will be a large element of randomness and plain old luck as well.

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1 hour ago, kallend said:

"In what appears to be a record since counting began, the State of Florida logged 1,433 new cases of COVID-19 on Saturday.

I didn't search for it, but what is the percentage of positive tests?

Here in Wisconsin, testing has gone up significantly.
So have positive results.
However, the percentage of positives has stayed somewhat level (it goes up and down some on a daily basis). 

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13 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

I didn't search for it, but what is the percentage of positive tests?

Here in Wisconsin, testing has gone up significantly.
So have positive results.
However, the percentage of positives has stayed somewhat level (it goes up and down some on a daily basis). 

Well, wasn't that why Trump didn't want to test, in case the numbers made him look bad?

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When 511 Epidemiologists Expect to Fly, Hug and Do 18 Other Everyday Activities Again

trump, states Governors, your boss, your kids, etc. All have ideas as to when you should go to a restaurant, go on a A/C, visit the mother-in-law, etc. This lengthy article racks the risk of such actions together with when the experts in C-19 would do it themselves.

Perhaps stock market investors should temper their current bull run.

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On 6/6/2020 at 4:43 PM, kallend said:

It takes 3 times before some people comprehend what they read.  Any teacher will tell you that.

So maybe you should read Baksteen's posts two more times then ;-)

He has a valid point.

 

Roughly measured in Google Maps, border to border Sweden - Iceland : 1300 km

Countries within that radius include:

- Belgium

- UK

- Italy

 

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40 minutes ago, evh said:

So maybe you should read Baksteen's posts two more times then ;-)

He has a valid point.

 

Roughly measured in Google Maps, border to border Sweden - Iceland : 1300 km

Countries within that radius include:

- Belgium

- UK

- Italy

 

And not Turkey, Greece or Spain as he claimed.  

 

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1 hour ago, ryoder said:

New Zealand implemented strict measures 20 days after its first reported case.

20 days after the first reported US case our fearless leader was still denying a problem and claiming it would go away by magic in April.  "15 cases, soon to be zero".

It took 54 days for our leader to figure out that there was a health emergency and even then did nothing about it.

Exponential growth is very unforgiving of delays.  Viruses don't respond to denial.

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18 hours ago, kallend said:

My wife is an MD and among her network of colleagues is an ICU doc in Tucson.  He says his hospital's ICU is really stressed right now due to a spike on severe CV-19 cases.  Another case of opening up too soon?

https://tucson.com/news/local/rising-covid-19-cases-prompt-city-of-tucson-to-delay-reopening-of-its-facilities/article_80b875c1-69cd-5c90-8e37-f1fb83ca706d.html

State-wide, apparently:

Arizona coronavirus cases surged weeks after reopening, straining the state’s largest health-care system. State health officials reported 1,438 new cases on Sunday, following a week of record highs, with an unprecedented 1,579 new cases disclosed on Friday. 

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On 6/2/2020 at 9:26 AM, Bigfalls said:

It will be interesting to see what the effect the large gathering of protesters in a number of cities has on the spread of the corona virus.  Not everyone is wearing masks or practicing social (physical) distancing.  Will the result be a spike in number of cases or not much effect.  If the latter is the case, maybe the situation can ease up a little.  About 2 weeks time will tell.

Of course it will

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7 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

When 511 Epidemiologists Expect to Fly, Hug and Do 18 Other Everyday Activities Again

trump, states Governors, your boss, your kids, etc. All have ideas as to when you should go to a restaurant, go on a A/C, visit the mother-in-law, etc. This lengthy article racks the risk of such actions together with when the experts in C-19 would do it themselves.

Perhaps stock market investors should temper their current bull run.

And they'll do ALL those things before they ever use a dip bowl again...

Wendy P.

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53 minutes ago, kallend said:

Not just Arizona.  Looks like the second wave arrived already.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/second-us-virus-wave-emerges-after-state-reopenings

Until vaccines are available people will have to social distance and be prudent about any contacts with any surfaces. These waves will be attacking the leaky ship and missing any watches could be disaster.

Until January 20, 2021 the US federal govt will be absent from the answer.

Quarantine fatigue: Governors reject new lockdowns as virus cases spike

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On 5/27/2020 at 4:12 PM, skydave114 said:

There are many countries where criticizing the government will get you arrested, and maybe even killed. China (where the virus came from) for example. The whole country of North Korea is essentially a prison.

Speaking of NK - 

This was a bit of an oops for Kim apparently. . . .

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1293283/north-korea-news-kim-jong-un-latest-defectors-south-korea/amp

I don't know anything about the source.

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12 hours ago, nigel99 said:

These trump rallies have raised new host of issues. Clearly the whole planning of these rallies is to circumvent social distancing ideas of safety. So should they be applauded for a place of the stupid, the ignorant, the trump supporter. To get exactly what they deserve?

Obviously the conductor of these gatherings of fools should get his just reward. Is that appropriate as he could illustrate to the world his personal 'Extraordinary' Health  and his  hydroxychloroquine solution?

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3 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

These trump rallies have raised new host of issues. Clearly the whole planning of these rallies is to circumvent social distancing ideas of safety. So should they be applauded for a place of the stupid, the ignorant, the trump supporter. To get exactly what they deserve?

Obviously the conductor of these gatherings of fools should get his just reward. Is that appropriate as he could illustrate to the world his personal 'Extraordinary' Health  and his  hydroxychloroquine solution?

No - they should be treated the same as the stupid it takes to take over a city block attempting to convert it to a self sustaining free land, and then the homeless steal all the food and . . .  ;P

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