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14 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:
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Agreed.  He tells people what they want to hear.  Probably would have made a better Reporter.

Fixed it for you.

And yet the news was telling the truth about about this thing when Trump was still saying cases in the US would soon go from 16 to zero, and while Airdvr was still calling it a big nothingburger.

 

In comparison to the good work being done out there, Trump would have made a fucking awful reporter.

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4 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Perhaps he didn't realize the tests the CDC designed didn't work, or that the FDA has a labrynth of rules that require emergency use approvals for the tests that did work.

Maybe he neglected to show some actual leadership when he was first made aware of the virus and the dangers of it back in January. We would be almost 2 months ahead of the point we are at now.

He's now in the process of removing the people that understand what's actually happening in favor of his own ignorance.

This is going to get uglier than people can imagine in the next month.

 

 

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Just now, normiss said:

For most workers, living paycheck to paycheck, what they earned last year has little bearing on the current total lack of income.

The crisis is NOW, not last year.

I believe they will be basing it off of the tax returns.

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3 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I notice how you avoided answering the question.

What question? What value does a pedantic (and not even correct) jab about intelligence being a thing that must come from intelligence agencies add to the discussion? Do you really need an answer from someone here in order to realise that there will have been some branch of the CDC or NSC able to brief the President on the availability of tests before he went on TV to talk about the availability of tests? 

 

I mean honestly, it was pointless asking the question in the first place, it's downright juvenile to keep pushing the issue. Seriously, what the actual fuck are you hoping to accomplish here?

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Well...perhaps the CDC told him they could make the test kits prior to them telling him the test kits didn't work.  There are any number of possibilities not the least of which is he thought they were available.

Your rampant TDS allows no possibility other than it was a blatant lie.

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4 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Well...perhaps the CDC told him they could make the test kits prior to them telling him the test kits didn't work.  There are any number of possibilities not the least of which is he thought they were available.

Your rampant TDS allows no possibility other than it was a blatant lie.

Sigh. So why did Mike Pence say the day before that testing capacity was insufficient? Why were other state governors and officials already complaining that they didn't have sufficient tests or facilities to keep up? Why did other administration officials start walking back Trump's briefing promise that same day?

 

The chances that he was the one single guy in the administration with access to the press who didn't get given the right information is...? 

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12 minutes ago, airdvr said:

There are any number of possibilities not the least of which is he thought they were available.

Your rampant TDS allows no possibility other than it was a blatant lie.

Isn't it tiring to keep thinking of all these possibilities to excuse him?

Sure they're possibilities, but usually the simplest explanation is the correct one.

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10 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Well...perhaps the CDC told him they could make the test kits prior to them telling him the test kits didn't work.  There are any number of possibilities not the least of which is he thought they were available.

Your rampant TDS allows no possibility other than it was a blatant lie.

What is more likely?

a) No one told Trump of the limitations of the CDC testing.

b) Trump was just spouting off bullshit that sounded good in the moment, just like the other 16,000+ lies he spewed before.

Think: Occam's razor.

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12 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Well...perhaps the CDC told him they could make the test kits prior to them telling him the test kits didn't work.  There are any number of possibilities not the least of which is he thought they were available.

Your rampant TDS allows no possibility other than it was a blatant lie.

Please show one example of Trump telling the truth, having valid information, showing real leadership or doing anything correct during this.

How about this:

Please show an example of Trump expressing sympathy or condolences to those who are sick or have lost loved ones. 

Someone commented that there was a lot of hate for Trump in here.
Please explain why there shouldn't be. Use actual facts, not speculation. 
The man is a dangerous buffoon. He clearly cares only for himself. 
He has made the situation worse.

Why does your worship of him blind you to this?

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21 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Well...perhaps the CDC told him they could make the test kits prior to them telling him the test kits didn't work. 

Perhaps.  More likely, based on past performance, he made it up to boost his ratings - especially given that at that point he had rejected the test kits that the WHO had offered him.

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Just now, billvon said:

Perhaps.  More likely, based on past performance, he made it up to boost his ratings - especially given that at that point he had rejected the test kits that the WHO had offered him.

Technically, the WHO never offered tests to the US (I've had too many Trumpettes harp on this).

They usually only offer test kits to the poorer countries. The US can afford it's own tests and should have had them.
Trump could have requested test kits from WHO, but never did.

A bit pedantic, but that's how it goes. ^_^

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1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Please show one example of Trump telling the truth, having valid information, showing real leadership or doing anything correct during this.

NOT TO BE ASCERTAINED FROM ANY SOURCE.

How about this:

Please show an example of Trump expressing sympathy or condolences to those who are sick or have lost loved ones. 

ASTONISHINGLY, HE MUMBLED SOMETHING YESTERDAY ABOUT RAND PAUL.

Trump offers sympathy for Rand Paul, apparent snark for Mitt Romney, after coronavirus quarantines


Someone commented that there was a lot of hate for Trump in here.
Please explain why there shouldn't be. Use actual facts, not speculation. 
The man is a dangerous buffoon. He clearly cares only for himself. 
He has made the situation worse.

Why does your worship of him blind you to this?

He is supposedly the "wartime" president. Yet he is ready to abandon some of his population to the enemy. He refuses to go all out in the war. Refuses to listen to his generals(medical advice, CDC). trump needs to read  The Art of War.

Silly me! I had to edit because i forgot trump doesn't read books. See turtle people here do admit mistakes.

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33 minutes ago, kallend said:

Local hospital needs masks.

A small contribution, but I'm making these on my 3D printer.

https://longliveyoursmile.com/3d-printable-mask-for-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR0pPJvg22Q59jqj-QYR6XXZhsmxJkJsmOlTt-iH1a7XicB_-qchw0HYMWQ

Too cool but You have a PhD so Meet The Italian Engineers 3D-Printing Respirator Parts For Free To Help Keep Coronavirus Patients Alive

We all know you can do so much better. If you only apply yourself.

I wonder how hard it would be to substitute "Our Hero's" instead of the "406".

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China to Ease Coronavirus Lockdown on Hubei 2 Months After Imposing It

" The Chinese province of Hubei, where the coronavirus pandemic began, will on Wednesday begin allowing most of its 60 million residents to leave, ending nearly two months of lockdown and sending a strong signal of the government’s confidence that its tough measures have worked to control the outbreak. ...

The easing of the lockdown is the latest sign that China appears to have successfully tamed the epidemic by placing sweeping restrictions on hundreds of millions of people, while governments elsewhere flounder. Across Europe and the United States, new cases continue to surge, medical supplies are running low and many hospitals are overwhelmed. Government officials worldwide are ordering their citizens to stay at home — much as China did to Hubei at the start of the outbreak. '

Too bad the trump administration doesn't listen to the CDC.

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2 hours ago, jakee said:

Sigh. So why did Mike Pence say the day before that testing capacity was insufficient? Why were other state governors and officials already complaining that they didn't have sufficient tests or facilities to keep up? Why did other administration officials start walking back Trump's briefing promise that same day?

 

The chances that he was the one single guy in the administration with access to the press who didn't get given the right information is...? 

Like I said earlier - 

I think he speaks what he wants to be true, not that he's malicious. 

OR - Another possibility is that he was so busy listening to his own thoughts, that he glazed over the correct info, and interpreted it his own way.   

The maliciousness angle is just your hate coming out. 

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