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12 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

North Dakota now has enough vaccine available that they will make it available to Canadian essential workers (mostly truckers) who cross from Manitoba. I'm getting my first shot of Pfizer on Friday in Winnipeg, but likely my second will come from this program.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-north-dakota-vaccine-essential-workers-1.5994519

That's fantastic. Tomorrow I am one month post my second Pfizer shot. I'm not cavalier about anything but it's been a joy to be able to have pretty normal dinners with others who are fully vaccinated. The best bit by far was when my favorite niece told her two daughters to give me a hug when I was home. The things you take for granted.

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20 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

North Dakota now has enough vaccine available that they will make it available to Canadian essential workers (mostly truckers) who cross from Manitoba. I'm getting my first shot of Pfizer on Friday in Winnipeg, but likely my second will come from this program.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-north-dakota-vaccine-essential-workers-1.5994519

Whoa! So Bill Gates is expanding his chip-tracking into Canada!

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On 4/20/2021 at 5:37 AM, wmw999 said:

. . . 

It was  a sailing ship in the Caribbean during the 1997 solar eclipse. Small ship, so we went to all the ports that don’t have giant docks. We saw whales and the Montserrat eruption, too. 
. . .

Wendy P. 

We did a week on a schooner in the Bahamas in 2019, but I didn't think of it as a "cruise" since we had to haul on ropes, etc, as deck hands.

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10 hours ago, gowlerk said:

North Dakota now has enough vaccine available that they will make it available to Canadian essential workers (mostly truckers) who cross from Manitoba. I'm getting my first shot of Pfizer on Friday in Winnipeg, but likely my second will come from this program.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-north-dakota-vaccine-essential-workers-1.5994519

Makes sense. North Dakota was also the same state that refused to issue a mask mandate when they had the highest concentration of Covid infections of any place on the planet. More than 1% of the entire states population was getting infected every week. Covid shots are still really difficult to get. There are plenty of people who have been trying to get one since they were first available and they STILL havent been able to actually get an appointment.


north Dakota is the Florida of the north...

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10 hours ago, kallend said:

We did a week on a schooner in the Bahamas in 2019, but I didn't think of it as a "cruise" since we had to haul on ropes, etc, as deck hands.

Good on ya old man.  At my age the only thing I'm pulling is my stool a little closer to the bar.

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Why no one should be complacent just because they are vaccinated:

An unvaccinated worker set off an outbreak at a U.S. nursing home where most residents were immunized.

Altogether, 26 facility residents were infected, including 18 who had been vaccinated, and 20 health care personnel were infected, including four who had been vaccinated. Two unvaccinated residents also died.

The report underscores the importance of vaccinating both nursing home residents and health care workers who go in and out of the sites, the authors said. While 90 percent of the 83 residents at the Kentucky nursing home had been vaccinated, only half of the 116 employees had been vaccinated when the outbreak was identified in March of this year.

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On 4/22/2021 at 9:13 AM, ryoder said:

Why no one should be complacent just because they are vaccinated:

. . .

The massive surge in India is a problem for us too:

The more cases there are, the more likely it is that a random mutation will arise that is not recognized by the current vaccines.  While most mutations are harmless or benign, even if 1 in a million is a problem, the place with the most cases is where it is likely to happen.

Which is why it is in our best interest to supply vaccines to other countries.

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20 minutes ago, kallend said:

The massive surge in India is a problem for us too:

The more cases there are, the more likely it is that a random mutation will arise that is not recognized by the current vaccines.  While most mutations are harmless or benign, even if 1 in a million is a problem, the place with the most cases is where it is likely to happen.

Which is why it is in our best interest to supply vaccines to other countries.

What if they aren't Christians?

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14 hours ago, kallend said:

Which is why it is in our best interest to supply vaccines to other countries.

We cant even supply vaccines to our own country. Might I remind you half of all Americans still dont have the vaccine. I'd say we have more pressing issues at hand.

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2 hours ago, Westerly said:

We cant even supply vaccines to our own country. Might I remind you half of all Americans still dont have the vaccine. I'd say we have more pressing issues at hand.

Might I remind you that a number of counties (almost all of them in "red" states) are currently declining their full quota of vaccines because of insufficient demand.

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31 minutes ago, kallend said:

Might I remind you that a number of counties (almost all of them in "red" states) are currently declining their full quota of vaccines because of insufficient demand.

This. What John is saying is a good example of where "America First" is a short-term gain at a likely long-term loss. Yes, we can protect "our" people first, but the sooner we have at least spotty vaccination in the world, the slower transmission will be, and the fewer opportunities there will be for mutation.

It's kind of like the guy in the apartment complex who doesn't want to contribute to a bedbug fund, because his apartment isn't the worst. Trust me, they'll get in, or he'll spend so much more effort keeping them out because they're close that it would have been easier and cheaper to contribute to the fund in the first place.

Wendy P.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/indias-sudden-coronavirus-wave-is-not-a-far-away-problem/2021/04/23/f363bda2-a3a3-11eb-85fc-06664ff4489d_story.html

Any transmission or infection anywhere is a spin of the roulette wheel for a possible new, more dangerous variant. Most such mutations are insignificant and disappear. But as the past few months have demonstrated with the variant first detected in Britain, a significant change in the genome can lead to rapid spread and more severe disease. India’s out-of-control catastrophe — by its sheer scale — is a potential pressure cooker for still more variants. The one that is already taking off, B.1.617, includes two mutations seen separately in earlier variants but never together in the same one. The mutations are in key parts of the virus genetic code forming the spike protein and the mechanism it uses to infect a human cell. This variant appears to be one factor powering the massive increase in daily new cases. It is not yet clear how well vaccines protect against it, or whether it will spread beyond India. But it is worth recalling that when the British variant first showed up in London and Kent, it was almost nonexistent in the United States; in a matter of months it has gained a major foothold. A South African variant has been less so. Can India, population 1.3 billion, be isolated? Not easily. Almost certainly, vaccines will have to be tweaked to adapt.

India’s predicament is staggering. In mid-February its daily new infections were about 10,000, and it seemed to have brought the pandemic almost to a close. The health minister, Harsh Vardhan, said in March that the country had entered the “endgame.” This week, the outbreak has topped 300,000 new cases a day, and the growth shows no signs of slowing. On Thursday, India’s 332,518 new cases accounted for 37 percent of the world’s total 894,043 new cases.

. . . .

 India has fully vaccinated only 1.4 percent of its people; 8.3 percent have been partially vaccinated.

Let’s hope all of India can seize the moment and begin to reverse the course of this disaster. India is not a faraway problem. In pandemic time and distance, every place is nearby.

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4 minutes ago, kallend said:

...But it is worth recalling that when the British variant first showed up in London and Kent, it was almost nonexistent in the United States; in a matter of months it has gained a major foothold. A South African variant has been less so...

Well, keep in mind that the Brit variant was almost certainly here well before it was found.

The testing for specific variants in the US was pretty poor at that time.
It's improved some, but not a whole lot.

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27 minutes ago, kallend said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/indias-sudden-coronavirus-wave-is-not-a-far-away-problem/2021/04/23/f363bda2-a3a3-11eb-85fc-06664ff4489d_story.html

Any transmission or infection anywhere is a spin of the roulette wheel for a possible new, more dangerous variant..... In pandemic time and distance, every place is nearby.

Soon the new penta and hepta-Indian mutated variants will be attending a GOP gathering. Yes, god and FOX sure does work in mysterious ways.

Perhaps the worry about electoral reforms to discourage democratic district voting will become moot.

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