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TEXAS IMPLEMENTS DEATH PANELS!

 

"Unfortunately, Starr County Memorial Hospital has limited resources and our doctors are going to have to decide who receives treatment, and who is sent home to die by their loved ones. This is what we did not want our community to experience."

Just like Sarah Palin predicted, but for a different president.

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48 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Wow. That this needs to be patiently explained to anyone at this juncture tells you all you need to know about how how screwed we are.

IMO he knew that already but sometimes he wants a running dialogue with everyone. I get sucked in sometimes.

Faux news and its supporting puppets also have a trump supporting dialogue whereby children are safe from covid. This is also a possibility.

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2 hours ago, billvon said:

Because people believed "young people don't catch it as often" which was used as justification to reopen schools.

 

I have never believed that.  Less likely to perish - but not less likely to be infected.

I don't know anyone that did.

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6 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

I have never believed that.  Less likely to perish - but not less likely to be infected.

I don't know anyone that did.

Trump: "They don't catch it easily, they don't bring it home easily . . .Children are a tiny percentage, less than 1% and even a small percentage of 1%."

Devos: "
More and more studies show that kids are actually stoppers of the disease and they don’t get it and transmit it themselves, so we should be in a posture of — the default should be getting back to school kids in person, in the classroom."

Guess you missed that, huh.

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10 hours ago, turtlespeed said:
10 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

The typical US test result time is about 9 days, but who knows? In any event such a high percentage of young people with positive results is disastrous.

Why specifically the young people?

I would say because we're now just learning about the long term effects of the disease, possibly even degenerative effects over time.

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3 minutes ago, billvon said:

Trump: "They don't catch it easily, they don't bring it home easily . . .Children are a tiny percentage, less than 1% and even a small percentage of 1%."

Devos: "
More and more studies show that kids are actually stoppers of the disease and they don’t get it and transmit it themselves, so we should be in a posture of — the default should be getting back to school kids in person, in the classroom."

Guess you missed that, huh.

I guess I did.

That doesn't go along with what limited knowledge I have with how a virus acts. 

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13 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

The typical US test result time is about 9 days, but who knows?

This is the part I'm still having a hard time getting past. How TF is the delay still that long, this far into the pandemic? I understand that with the higher numbers/population that this strains resources, but also wouldn't you by that same token have more infrastructure and staff available?

I had to get tested this week as we've had known rogue cases enter my city (QLD, Aus) after we'd effectively hit zero community transmission. Despite the city going from maybe a dozen tests a day to literally thousands overnight, I still got my results back in just over 48 hours.

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2 minutes ago, mistercwood said:

This is the part I'm still having a hard time getting past. How TF is the delay still that long, this far into the pandemic? I understand that with the higher numbers/population that this strains resources, but also wouldn't you by that same token have more infrastructure and staff available?

I had to get tested this week as we've had known rogue cases enter my city (QLD, Aus) after we'd effectively hit zero community transmission. Despite the city going from maybe a dozen tests a day to literally thousands overnight, I still got my results back in just over 48 hours.

I was tested at CVS drive through. It took 29 days for results. The result? "Test not performed"

 

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I had an elective orthopaedic surgery in late June (I was in the recovery room when the announcement came through that they were stopping elective surgeries in Dallas county, slipped in under the wire) and as part of the pre-surgery protocol I was required to get a test.  They swabbed me at 11am and I had my results at 8pm that day.

A lot's changed since June and I don't know if the 9-day turnarounds we're hearing about are the extreme examples or how prevalent those wait-times are, but at least in one system at one point fairly recently the turnaround times were fairly quick.

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3 minutes ago, lippy said:

I had an elective orthopaedic surgery in late June (I was in the recovery room when the announcement came through that they were stopping elective surgeries in Dallas county, slipped in under the wire) and as part of the pre-surgery protocol I was required to get a test.  They swabbed me at 11am and I had my results at 8pm that day.

A lot's changed since June and I don't know if the 9-day turnarounds we're hearing about are the extreme examples or how prevalent those wait-times are, but at least in one system at one point fairly recently the turnaround times were fairly quick.

Lab was probably in the same hospital.

From July 13, “We attribute this demand primarily to the rapid, continuing spread of COVID-19 infections across the nation but particularly in the South, Southwest and West regions of the country,” Quest Diagnostics said in a statement. The test manufacturer added that it can now perform up to 125,000 tests per day, roughly double its capacity compared with two months ago.

“Despite that dramatic increase, demand for testing is increasing even faster,” the company said. “As a result, our average turnaround time for reporting test results is slightly more than 1 day for our priority 1 patients. However, our average turnaround time for all other populations is 7 or more days.”

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6 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Do you think in such black and white terms that there is no consideration for the possibility of both faith and science existing simultaneously?

It's pretty sad when the President of the USA says he's "very impressed" (his words) with a doctor with faith who also turns out to be batshit crazy.  

Watch out for that demon sperm.

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5 hours ago, normiss said:

Nothing other than apologies. Zero explanation.

Don't be an an ingrate and project on people. They said they were sorry. That's millennial for "no explanation required." It was like a month later, right? So obviously you didn't need the test and were just clogging up the system. Probably someone else didn't get their apology for 6 weeks because of you. 

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10 hours ago, lippy said:

 

A lot's changed since June and I don't know if the 9-day turnarounds we're hearing about are the extreme examples or how prevalent those wait-times are, but at least in one system at one point fairly recently the turnaround times were fairly quick.

Those wait times are common. They always have been. In my state, the wait time has always been upwards of a week. Everyone I know who got a test had to wait several days for the result, and that's if they could even get a test at all. Often the lines are on the order of hundreds of cars long, people show up at like 5 AM and still they find out there wernt enough tests to go around so they dont get tested. This is common. Delays upward of a week for results are common. Contract tracing doesent exist at all in most areas. It exists on paper, but not to any extent in real life.

Same issue with unemployment. There are people who filed for UI back in March who still havent been paid. UI offices dont return calls or emails--ever--and people can never get in touch with someone, even after several hundred call attempts. Of course the offices are closed too. Some people havent even gotten their $1200 payment yet.

These examples are not the rare one in 500 or something. This is more like it happens to most people-level common. The testing sucks, the delays are so long there is little point in even getting tested in the first place, UI is so hard to file for many people just flat-out cant get it at all. Quarantine laws between states are so loosely enforced that basically everyone ignores them. Contract tracing hardly exists at all in the USA and if it does exist, by the time someone is contacted they would have been infected weeks ago anyway.

All the programs that are supposedly in place to help dont really offer much of any help for most people.

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5 hours ago, Westerly said:

Those wait times are common. They always have been. In my state, the wait time has always been upwards of a week. Everyone I know who got a test had to wait several days for the result, and that's if they could even get a test at all. Often the lines are on the order of hundreds of cars long, people show up at like 5 AM and still they find out there wernt enough tests to go around so they dont get tested. This is common. Delays upward of a week for results are common. Contract tracing doesent exist at all in most areas. It exists on paper, but not to any extent in real life.

Same issue with unemployment. There are people who filed for UI back in March who still havent been paid. UI offices dont return calls or emails--ever--and people can never get in touch with someone, even after several hundred call attempts. Of course the offices are closed too. Some people havent even gotten their $1200 payment yet.

These examples are not the rare one in 500 or something. This is more like it happens to most people-level common. The testing sucks, the delays are so long there is little point in even getting tested in the first place, UI is so hard to file for many people just flat-out cant get it at all. Quarantine laws between states are so loosely enforced that basically everyone ignores them. Contract tracing hardly exists at all in the USA and if it does exist, by the time someone is contacted they would have been infected weeks ago anyway.

All the programs that are supposedly in place to help dont really offer much of any help for most people.

Yeah, I'm waiting for unemployment checks back from May. 

You can't get through on the phone lines, literally you're on hold from 9am to 5pm - I've tried it, and the email service says 'We'll get back to your question in 4 - 6 weeks'... 

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6 hours ago, ryoder said:

My wife's best friend and her husband are going.  I haven't talked to them, but I would imagine that others are travelling with them from the Las Vegas area.

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