JerryBaumchen 1,048 #2876 July 30, 2020 (edited) Hi folks, And I just got this one: Jerry Baumchen PS) I really dislike wearing a mask. However, THAT is IMO not the issue. Edited July 30, 2020 by JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #2877 July 31, 2020 4 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, And I just got this one: Jerry Baumchen PS) I really dislike wearing a mask. However, THAT is IMO not the issue. I like the last guy. "Don't be an asshole." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #2878 July 31, 2020 On 7/29/2020 at 11:32 AM, kallend said: This is Dr. Stella Immanuel, quoted yesterday by Trump as evidence of the efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine: 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #2879 August 1, 2020 trump wants schools reopened. So the YMCA had a summer camp in Georgia with 597 kids attending. All tested negative before attending. Four days later of 1/2 of those who attended were tested.Results showed 44% of the kids and staff who attended were positive.All recommended safety protocols from the CDC sere followed. For trump kids under the bus works as long as re-election is in the cards. Its OK for Mitch McConnell as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #2880 August 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: trump wants schools reopened. So the YMCA had a summer camp in Georgia with 597 kids attending. All tested negative before attending. Four days later of 1/2 of those who attended were tested.Results showed 44% of the kids and staff who attended were positive.All recommended safety protocols from the CDC sere followed. I do wonder how many days ahead they were tested. Here's a link about the outbreak. https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/hundreds-georgia-campers-infected-with-coronavirus-ymca-summer-camp-cdc-report-finds/EL5FFTVSDVETRGROPEXK6CIZNM/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #2881 August 1, 2020 9 hours ago, headoverheels said: I do wonder how many days ahead they were tested. Here's a link about the outbreak. https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/hundreds-georgia-campers-infected-with-coronavirus-ymca-summer-camp-cdc-report-finds/EL5FFTVSDVETRGROPEXK6CIZNM/ The typical US test result time is about 9 days, but who knows? In any event such a high percentage of young people with positive results is disastrous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #2882 August 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: The typical US test result time is about 9 days, but who knows? In any event such a high percentage of young people with positive results is disastrous. Why specifically the young people? If they properly quarantine, and follow the rules, they are the least probable to have a bad outcome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #2883 August 1, 2020 7 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Why specifically the young people? Because people believed "young people don't catch it as often" which was used as justification to reopen schools. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #2884 August 1, 2020 8 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Why specifically the young people? If they properly quarantine, and follow the rules, they are the least probable to have a bad outcome. 34 minutes ago, billvon said: Because people believed "young people don't catch it as often" which was used as justification to reopen schools. Then they spread it to their parents and more vulnerable people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #2885 August 1, 2020 49 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: Then they spread it to their parents and more vulnerable people. Wow. That this needs to be patiently explained to anyone at this juncture tells you all you need to know about how how screwed we are. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #2886 August 1, 2020 TEXAS IMPLEMENTS DEATH PANELS! "Unfortunately, Starr County Memorial Hospital has limited resources and our doctors are going to have to decide who receives treatment, and who is sent home to die by their loved ones. This is what we did not want our community to experience." Just like Sarah Palin predicted, but for a different president. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #2887 August 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Wow. That this needs to be patiently explained to anyone at this juncture tells you all you need to know about how how screwed we are. IMO he knew that already but sometimes he wants a running dialogue with everyone. I get sucked in sometimes. Faux news and its supporting puppets also have a trump supporting dialogue whereby children are safe from covid. This is also a possibility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #2888 August 1, 2020 2 hours ago, billvon said: Because people believed "young people don't catch it as often" which was used as justification to reopen schools. I have never believed that. Less likely to perish - but not less likely to be infected. I don't know anyone that did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #2889 August 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I have never believed that. Less likely to perish - but not less likely to be infected. I don't know anyone that did. Trump: "They don't catch it easily, they don't bring it home easily . . .Children are a tiny percentage, less than 1% and even a small percentage of 1%." Devos: "More and more studies show that kids are actually stoppers of the disease and they don’t get it and transmit it themselves, so we should be in a posture of — the default should be getting back to school kids in person, in the classroom." Guess you missed that, huh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #2890 August 2, 2020 10 hours ago, turtlespeed said: 10 hours ago, Phil1111 said: The typical US test result time is about 9 days, but who knows? In any event such a high percentage of young people with positive results is disastrous. Why specifically the young people? I would say because we're now just learning about the long term effects of the disease, possibly even degenerative effects over time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #2891 August 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, billvon said: Trump: "They don't catch it easily, they don't bring it home easily . . .Children are a tiny percentage, less than 1% and even a small percentage of 1%." Devos: "More and more studies show that kids are actually stoppers of the disease and they don’t get it and transmit it themselves, so we should be in a posture of — the default should be getting back to school kids in person, in the classroom." Guess you missed that, huh. I guess I did. That doesn't go along with what limited knowledge I have with how a virus acts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #2892 August 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Coreece said: I would say because we're now just learning about the long term effects of the disease, possibly even degenerative effects over time. Thanks for the straight answer. That makes sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #2893 August 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, Coreece said: I would say because we're now just learning about the long term effects of the disease, possibly even degenerative effects over time. Yes, its not to be trifled with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #2894 August 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Coreece said: I would say because we're now just learning about the long term effects of the disease, possibly even degenerative effects over time. You mean science and facts? Got it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #2895 August 2, 2020 13 hours ago, Phil1111 said: The typical US test result time is about 9 days, but who knows? This is the part I'm still having a hard time getting past. How TF is the delay still that long, this far into the pandemic? I understand that with the higher numbers/population that this strains resources, but also wouldn't you by that same token have more infrastructure and staff available? I had to get tested this week as we've had known rogue cases enter my city (QLD, Aus) after we'd effectively hit zero community transmission. Despite the city going from maybe a dozen tests a day to literally thousands overnight, I still got my results back in just over 48 hours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #2896 August 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, mistercwood said: This is the part I'm still having a hard time getting past. How TF is the delay still that long, this far into the pandemic? I understand that with the higher numbers/population that this strains resources, but also wouldn't you by that same token have more infrastructure and staff available? I had to get tested this week as we've had known rogue cases enter my city (QLD, Aus) after we'd effectively hit zero community transmission. Despite the city going from maybe a dozen tests a day to literally thousands overnight, I still got my results back in just over 48 hours. I was tested at CVS drive through. It took 29 days for results. The result? "Test not performed" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #2897 August 2, 2020 2 hours ago, normiss said: I was tested at CVS drive through. It took 29 days for results. The result? "Test not performed" What? Did you get any justification? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 771 #2898 August 2, 2020 I had an elective orthopaedic surgery in late June (I was in the recovery room when the announcement came through that they were stopping elective surgeries in Dallas county, slipped in under the wire) and as part of the pre-surgery protocol I was required to get a test. They swabbed me at 11am and I had my results at 8pm that day. A lot's changed since June and I don't know if the 9-day turnarounds we're hearing about are the extreme examples or how prevalent those wait-times are, but at least in one system at one point fairly recently the turnaround times were fairly quick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #2899 August 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, lippy said: I had an elective orthopaedic surgery in late June (I was in the recovery room when the announcement came through that they were stopping elective surgeries in Dallas county, slipped in under the wire) and as part of the pre-surgery protocol I was required to get a test. They swabbed me at 11am and I had my results at 8pm that day. A lot's changed since June and I don't know if the 9-day turnarounds we're hearing about are the extreme examples or how prevalent those wait-times are, but at least in one system at one point fairly recently the turnaround times were fairly quick. Lab was probably in the same hospital. From July 13, “We attribute this demand primarily to the rapid, continuing spread of COVID-19 infections across the nation but particularly in the South, Southwest and West regions of the country,” Quest Diagnostics said in a statement. The test manufacturer added that it can now perform up to 125,000 tests per day, roughly double its capacity compared with two months ago. “Despite that dramatic increase, demand for testing is increasing even faster,” the company said. “As a result, our average turnaround time for reporting test results is slightly more than 1 day for our priority 1 patients. However, our average turnaround time for all other populations is 7 or more days.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #2900 August 2, 2020 13 hours ago, JoeWeber said: You mean science and facts? Got it. Do you think in such black and white terms that there is no consideration for the possibility of both faith and science existing simultaneously? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites