covid-19

[ryoder 1,380]

Andrew Giuliani, a special assistant to President Donald Trump and the son of Rudy Giuliani, announced Friday that he had tested positive for coronavirus.

[Phil1111 908]

46 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

I just delivered a load of lumber to a pallet manufacturing plant in Gretna Nebraska near Omaha. It looked like there would’ve been about 150 people working there today. The only mask in sight was the one on my face. I’m on my way to Kansas City now to get a reload at a warehouse. We’ll see if they’re doing any better there.

Stay safe down there

[gowlerk 1,902]

1 hour ago, Phil1111 said:

Stay safe down there

I’m at the KC warehouse now. Everyone here is masked!

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

I’m at the KC warehouse now. Everyone here is masked!

Something I've found is that the bigger the company, the better chance of masks.

[gowlerk 1,902]

3 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Something I've found is that the bigger the company, the better chance of masks.

Not an absolute rule, but for sure large corporations with HR departments are all going to be on the mask thing. I've been to a couple medium sized places lately where politics rules the day and covid safety is seen as incorrect.

[ryoder 1,380]

Donald Trump Jr. tests positive for COVID-19

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-jr-tests-positive-covid-19/story?id=74326915

[JerryBaumchen 1,046]

53 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Donald Trump Jr. tests positive for COVID-19

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-jr-tests-positive-covid-19/story?id=74326915

Hi Robert,

And does another R senator:  'Sen. Rick Scott of Florida tests positive for COVID-19'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/20/u-s-sen-rick-scott-florida-tests-positive-covid-19/6354712002/

Not a lot going for the R's right now.

Jerry Baumchen

 

[Westerly 61]

7 hours ago, gowlerk said:

I just delivered a load of lumber to a pallet manufacturing plant in Gretna Nebraska near Omaha. It looked like there would’ve been about 150 people working there today. The only mask in sight was the one on my face. I’m on my way to Kansas City now to get a reload at a warehouse. We’ll see if they’re doing any better there.

They are just trying to keep the money local by ensuring that the hospitals get plenty of business, that's all. Support small businesses and all. After the hospitals get their business, the bankruptcy attorneys will be next in line for an inrush of business. Not until the ER bill shows up in the mail that is though.

Edited November 21, 2020 by Westerly

[Westerly 61]

However, we dont need a vaccine to fix this in the interm. It's simple. Anytime the positivity rate is over 7.5% in a community, enter into lockdown for a minimum of 4 weeks or until positivity rate drops below 5%. No non-essential services. Then let the market decide. Want to keep your job and business? Then do your part and be a part of the solution. Dont give a shit and want to chose 'freedom' instead? Then have the freedom to not have a job. Unemployment benefits are capped at whatever the usual is for the state. Once you're out, you're out.

Edited November 21, 2020 by Westerly

[Westerly 61]

12 hours ago, ryoder said:

Andrew Giuliani, a special assistant to President Donald Trump and the son of Rudy Giuliani, announced Friday that he had tested positive for coronavirus.

Well Rudy was all over TV sweating like a mofo, so my money is Rudy is positive as well.

[kallend 1,620]

1,947 Americans died of COVID-19 yesterday.

Here is photo taken this morning of the president working hard to address the crisis.

[ryoder 1,380]

Georgia Sen. Kelly Loeffler tests positive for Covid but is undergoing further testing

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/21/politics/kelly-loeffler-tests-positive-covid-georgia/index.html

[kallend 1,620]

2 hours ago, ryoder said:

Georgia Sen. Kelly Loeffler tests positive for Covid but is undergoing further testing

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/21/politics/kelly-loeffler-tests-positive-covid-georgia/index.html

 

"Ms. Loeffler has worn masks while interacting with people, but was indoors and unmasked among unmasked crowds at an event on Thursday."

 

Stupid is as stupid does.

[Westerly 61]

So how many cases is it going to take before people start taking this seriously? 400k a day? what do you think? Funny, we were all about doing lockdowns when the USA only had 5k cases a day, but now that we are at 200k it's no big deal.

[billvon 2,380]

1 hour ago, Westerly said:

So how many cases is it going to take before people start taking this seriously? 400k a day?

Keep in mind that for some people, not wearing a mask is the only form of protest they have.  "The system" stole the election from Trump and is telling them to wear coward masks (in their minds) so not wearing a mask is the one thing they can still do to "own the libs."  It's not rational.

[nwt 131]

On 11/20/2020 at 6:44 PM, Westerly said:

However, we dont need a vaccine to fix this in the interm. It's simple. Anytime the positivity rate is over 7.5% in a community, enter into lockdown for a minimum of 4 weeks or until positivity rate drops below 5%. No non-essential services. Then let the market decide. Want to keep your job and business? Then do your part and be a part of the solution. Dont give a shit and want to chose 'freedom' instead? Then have the freedom to not have a job. Unemployment benefits are capped at whatever the usual is for the state. Once you're out, you're out.

That's pretty much what Illinois is doing, and the results are pretty dramatic (see attached). We probably should have initiated the recent batch of lockdowns sooner.

[gowlerk 1,902]

Dr. Fauci is saying today that it is beginning to become clearer that as may as 20-30% of people who have recovered are problems that weren't there before they were infected. This is happening even in many people who did not get very sick.

[nwt 131]

1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

Dr. Fauci is saying today that it is beginning to become clearer that as may as 20-30% of people who have recovered are problems that weren't there before they were infected. This is happening even in many people who did not get very sick.

This might be the scariest aspect of the whole thing: Nobody knows what the long-term effects will be or how severe. The potential heart and brain damage we've already seen is alarming.

[gowlerk 1,902]

1 minute ago, nwt said:

This might be the scariest aspect of the whole thing: Nobody knows what the long-term effects will be or how severe. The potential heart and brain damage we've already seen is alarming.

Yes, for sure. That is why vaccination will be so important. I just hope that they are both as effective as the early results are showing, but long lasting as well.

[ryoder 1,380]

15 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Yes, for sure. That is why vaccination will be so important. I just hope that they are both as effective as the early results are showing, but long lasting as well.

Both? There are 3 now. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55040635

This one is different in that it is a conventional vaccine (not mRNA), and only requires refrigeration, not freezing.

 

[gowlerk 1,902]

58 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Both? There are 3 now. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55040635

This one is different in that it is a conventional vaccine (not mRNA), and only requires refrigeration, not freezing.

 

Yes, I know. Both effective and long lasting is what I was saying. Edit to add, I see that I worded it incorrectly for that message to be clear.

Edited November 24, 2020 by gowlerk

[SkyDekker 1,120]

38 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Yes, for sure. That is why vaccination will be so important. I just hope that they are both as effective as the early results are showing, but long lasting as well.

Of course at the current time we also don't know what the long term effects are of the various vaccines. No mRNA vaccine has previously been approved and human testing of mRNA vaccines is not extensive at all.

[Westerly 61]

2 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Dr. Fauci is saying today that it is beginning to become clearer that as may as 20-30% of people who have recovered are problems that weren't there before they were infected. This is happening even in many people who did not get very sick.

What is 'recovered"? As in 20-30% of those who got the virus, or 20-30% of those in the ICU? Pretty sure it's not 30% of those with the virus because upwards of a fifth of people dont even have symptoms.

Edited November 24, 2020 by Westerly

[Westerly 61]

22 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Of course at the current time we also don't know what the long term effects are of the various vaccines. No mRNA vaccine has previously been approved and human testing of mRNA vaccines is not extensive at all.

Whatever it is, pretty sure it's not worse than COVID. So what, just dont get vaccinated and get COVID instead? is that the plan? 

[mistercwood 287]

1 hour ago, nwt said:

This might be the scariest aspect of the whole thing: Nobody knows what the long-term effects will be or how severe. The potential heart and brain damage we've already seen is alarming.

I read something months ago and I have no idea if it's remotely medically accurate, so make of it what you will. But the general gist was that we shouldn't be thinking of Covid as a respiratory disease, but instead as a vascular disease that primarily enters via the lungs. It explains the longer term effects much better.