nigel99 138 #3026 August 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, olofscience said: <eyeroll> you're so predictable. Well New Zealand had 13 new cases yesterday and Trump is calling it a 'terrible surge'. Thirteen. The US had 40,612 new cases. Winning. It’s all about percentage increase. If you go from one case to 13 it’s a 1200% increase, and if you go from 36 000 to 40 000 it’s only a 15% increase. /sarcasm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phantomII 36 #3027 August 18, 2020 Looks like Trump finally understands the 'percentage' thing. Maybe someday he also gets the 'per capita' thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 138 #3028 August 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, phantomII said: Looks like Trump finally understands the 'percentage' thing. Maybe someday he also gets the 'per capita' thing. He will understand it when it fits his story Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,041 #3029 August 18, 2020 8 hours ago, phantomII said: Looks like Trump finally understands the 'percentage' thing. Maybe someday he also gets the 'per capita' thing. Hi phantom, You have obviously not seen his college grade transcripts.* Of course, neither have I; but, once they become available it will all make sense. Jerry Baumchen * He has threatened to sue any college that releases any of his grade transcripts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 419 #3030 August 18, 2020 11 hours ago, phantomII said: Looks like Trump finally understands the 'percentage' thing. Maybe someday he also gets the 'per capita' thing. Well if he only understands that much, there's not much chance he'll understand "exponential growth" any time soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 896 #3031 August 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, olofscience said: Well if he only understands that much, there's not much chance he'll understand "exponential growth" any time soon. Well he does understand "exponential shrinkage". The mechanisms that allow for investors equity to vanish under bankruptcy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,362 #3032 August 19, 2020 From KOTA in Rapid City, SD; Data company tracks traffic into 2020 Sturgis Motorcycle Rally: https://www.kotatv.com/2020/08/18/video-data-company-tracks-traffic-into-2020-sturgis-motorcycle-rally/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #3033 August 19, 2020 56 minutes ago, ryoder said: From KOTA in Rapid City, SD; Data company tracks traffic into 2020 Sturgis Motorcycle Rally: https://www.kotatv.com/2020/08/18/video-data-company-tracks-traffic-into-2020-sturgis-motorcycle-rally/ That is terrifying for a bunch of reasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 189 #3034 August 19, 2020 6 hours ago, yoink said: 7 hours ago, ryoder said: From KOTA in Rapid City, SD; Data company tracks traffic into 2020 Sturgis Motorcycle Rally: https://www.kotatv.com/2020/08/18/video-data-company-tracks-traffic-into-2020-sturgis-motorcycle-rally/ That is terrifying for a bunch of reasons. I actually had a nightmare about it last night. I suddenly found myself at Sturgis with Jennifer Aniston in a stairwell packed with a bunch of bikers. And I said wait a minute, this can't be right, what about covid, what about social distancing, we have to get out of here - but Jennifer Aniston mocked me and insisted on staying so I just left her, and then I woke up in a cold sweat. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #3035 August 19, 2020 10 hours ago, Coreece said: I actually had a nightmare about it last night. I suddenly found myself at Sturgis with Jennifer Aniston in a stairwell packed with a bunch of bikers. And I said wait a minute, this can't be right, what about covid, what about social distancing, we have to get out of here - but Jennifer Aniston mocked me and insisted on staying so I just left her, and then I woke up in a cold sweat. What did they use for tracking? License plates? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,101 #3036 August 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: What did they use for tracking? License plates? anonymous cell phone data Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,041 #3037 August 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: anonymous cell phone data Hi Sky, Actually, anyone who read the link would know that. Hmmmm???????? Jerry Baumchen 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 189 #3038 August 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: 17 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: anonymous cell phone data Hi Sky, Actually, anyone who read the link would know that. I didn't read the link, I just looked at the map and figured that's what they used. Similar to how google maps can tell you if there are any traffic jams up ahead when a bunch of cell phone location data suddenly stops on the freeway, or even when traffic builds up at long red lights. Another nifty feature is when they tell you cops were spotted up ahead. Never looked into how that all worked, but I believe other drivers report them, lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #3039 August 19, 2020 Just now, Coreece said: Never looked into how that all worked, but I believe other drivers report them, lol. Correct. I've reported them on occasion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,101 #3040 August 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Coreece said: Another nifty feature is when they tell you cops were spotted up ahead. Never looked into how that all worked, but I believe other drivers report them, lol. Yup, that is the waze platform they bought a few years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #3041 August 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Coreece said: Similar to how google maps can tell you if there are any traffic jams up ahead when a bunch of cell phone location data suddenly stops on the freeway, or even when traffic builds up at long red lights. I vaguely recall a story some years ago about a dude who would create artificial traffic jams with a cart full of like 50 smartphones that he'd slowly wheel along the sidewalk and mess up Google's local data. I think it was some sort of performative protest or awareness building thing about big tech? Still fascinating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 189 #3042 August 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, mistercwood said: 22 minutes ago, Coreece said: Similar to how google maps can tell you if there are any traffic jams up ahead when a bunch of cell phone location data suddenly stops on the freeway, or even when traffic builds up at long red lights. I vaguely recall a story some years ago about a dude who would create artificial traffic jams with a cart full of like 50 smartphones that he'd slowly wheel along the sidewalk and mess up Google's local data. I think it was some sort of performative protest or awareness building thing about big tech? Still fascinating. Found it: https://www.wired.com/story/99-phones-fake-google-maps-traffic-jam/ Hillarious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,362 #3043 August 20, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, mistercwood said: I vaguely recall a story some years ago about a dude who would create artificial traffic jams with a cart full of like 50 smartphones that he'd slowly wheel along the sidewalk and mess up Google's local data. I think it was some sort of performative protest or awareness building thing about big tech? Still fascinating. https://www.boredpanda.com/fake-traffic-jam-99-smartphones-google-maps-simon-weckert/ ETA: Coreece beat me to the post. Edited August 20, 2020 by ryoder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #3044 August 20, 2020 There was a comment made on another thread that got me thinking. It's said that there are 170K (roughly) covid-19 deaths so far this year. So I did some googling, and this is what I found: 1) The CDC can track on a seemingly daily basis an individual number of deaths by covid-19. 2) There are no statistics for the entire year of 2019 on the website that I could find. 3) "NOTES: A total of 2,839,205 resident deaths were registered in the United States in 2018." 4) 14.9% of those deaths were influenza and Pneumonia related (423,042) [That is up .6% from 2017] Here is what I was thinking about: At the end of the year, when the calculations are complete, the number of Influenza and Pneumonia deaths should stay somewhere around 14 - 15%. Theoretically the numbers should be about the same, right? The Covid-19 deaths would be added to that figure, correct? So, adding in the Covid-19 respiratory illness to the flu and pneumonia deaths, we should expect total flu and Pneumonia numbers in the 760's this year. (Average 6 months to get to 170K . . . 12 months should be 340K) I wonder if there will be a decline in other deaths. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,101 #3045 August 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I wonder if there will be a decline in other deaths. This study is suggesting the exact opposite: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768086 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,101 #3046 August 20, 2020 29 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: There are no statistics for the entire year of 2019 on the website that I could find. https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-Select-Causes/muzy-jte6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #3047 August 20, 2020 6 hours ago, turtlespeed said: I wonder if there will be a decline in other deaths. The study Skydekker linked covers some interesting points and areas where deaths could increase. I don't think I'd need a study though to conclude that in areas/countries where WFH was widely adopted you would expect to see a drop in motor vehicle injuries and deaths. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #3048 August 21, 2020 19 hours ago, SkyDekker said: https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-Select-Causes/muzy-jte6 Thanks. I was speaking to National - but State will do if I ever get the time I want to spend on it. It seems that they could maybe integrate the spread sheet. This is 2020 after all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #3049 August 21, 2020 13 hours ago, mistercwood said: The study Skydekker linked covers some interesting points and areas where deaths could increase. I don't think I'd need a study though to conclude that in areas/countries where WFH was widely adopted you would expect to see a drop in motor vehicle injuries and deaths. I agree that sounds reasonable. I also think that just the reduced traffic patterns will have a large impact in vehicle fatalities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,611 #3050 August 22, 2020 (edited) COVID-19 deaths August 8 - 21 USA - 14,316 Florida - 2,241 Texas - 2,803 Georgia - 860 Arizona - 613 Canada - 88 UK - 139 France - 140 Germany - 72 Spain - 196 Italy - 237 Australia - 207 Japan - 118 NZ - 0 Edited August 22, 2020 by kallend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites