JerryBaumchen 1,047 #2151 May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, ryoder said: It could be zero standing in line if the remaining 45 states moved forward into the 20th century with that cutting-edge technology called the "mail in ballot". Hi Robert, RATZ - once again, you beat me to it. Jerry Baumchen PS) And, let us not forget how Trump criticized mail-in voting and then admitted to doing it himself. Can you be more 2-faced? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #2152 May 14, 2020 2 hours ago, billvon said: Yes, that's it. But it would have to be a Big Mac - not just a hamberder. I would be more optimistic if we said the Chick Fil-A staff was doing testing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #2153 May 14, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: What kind of accuracy is expected from this 1.1 million tests per day? Do you mean in the number (1.1M) of tests performed, or the outcomes of the tests, like false negatives and false positives? Edited May 14, 2020 by kallend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,395 #2154 May 14, 2020 2 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Soooo - the solution here is to cram as many "social distancing" people as possible into one enclosed space to transport them to another place, in order to get tested for the thing they that is causing them to have to be social distancing ? ? Nope. You use trains to take doctors/technicians to the infected area. Like the WHO does now. Or do you hate them too now? Quote Why are you trying to justify China in this? ?? Not trying to "justify China." Just pointing out that the people claiming it's impossible are dead wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #2155 May 14, 2020 (edited) I think we're putting more work into figuring out how Wuhan will do this than Wuhan is. Edited May 14, 2020 by DJL 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #2156 May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, gowlerk said: Do you still have a Philco tube set? No one has to wait for a warm up. Just a boot up! I was imagining what FOX TV would be like because its website looks like a slot machine with all the distractible graphics, colors, etc. Joke acknowledged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #2157 May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: At an average distance of 2 meters - that would be a collective lines that measures roughly 2200 Kilometres long - per day - for 10 days. Once again, how long will the line of over 100M people on one day in November be? You can use all the 'maths' you want to prove how unfeasible it is to process that many people in a short time but I guarantee you'll always be relying on an erroneous assumption somewhere, since we already know that processing that many people in an even shorter time is feasible, because we do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 143 #2158 May 14, 2020 2 hours ago, DJL said: I would be more optimistic if we said the Chick Fil-A staff was doing testing. Except then the gays wouldn’t be tested Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #2159 May 14, 2020 Another reason why trump admires President Putin. In the US trump has demoted and fired doctors that disagree with him. In Russia Mr. Putin throws them out of the window. In Three Separate Incidents, Russian Doctors Fall From Hospital Windows After Coronavirus PPE Complaints Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #2160 May 14, 2020 5 hours ago, turtlespeed said: And Anti Trumpers that do it in the guise of posting many many links. Here’s How Wuhan Plans to Test All 11 Million of Its People for Coronavirus This link is for nontrumpers who have an intellectual curiosity. You can ignore it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #2161 May 15, 2020 TRUMP: "When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn't do any testing we would have very few cases." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 143 #2162 May 15, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, normiss said: TRUMP: "When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn't do any testing we would have very few cases." Did he say that? Granted we all mis speak every now and again, but the leader of a country can’t afford to do it often. Edited May 15, 2020 by nigel99 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #2163 May 15, 2020 52 minutes ago, normiss said: TRUMP: "When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn't do any testing we would have very few cases." 40 minutes ago, nigel99 said: Did he say that? Granted we all mis speak every now and again, but the leader of a country can’t afford to do it often. Yes, he's not a leader its Amerika. (link below not for Turtles) Trump: Coronavirus testing may be ‘overrated’ and reason for high U.S. case count “America has now conducted its 10 millionth test. That’s as of yesterday afternoon. Ten million tests we gave. Ten million,” Trump said from a stage at the warehouse event, which had the trappings of a campaign-style rally. “And CVS has just committed to establish up to 1,000 new coronavirus testing sites by the end of this month, and the 10 millionth will go up very, very rapidly. “And don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world,” he added. “But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases.” Trump said the news media had refused to report his “common sense” explanation for the country’s high case numbers" Common sense, Its why his supporters vote for him and understand him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,120 #2164 May 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: “And don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world,” he added. “But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases.” Trump said the news media had refused to report his “common sense” explanation for the country’s high case numbers" Man oh man. This, too, is a “what the actual fuck” moment. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,047 #2165 May 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, wmw999 said: This, too, is a “what the actual fuck” moment. Hi Wendy, I does seem as though Our National Idiot has a lot of those 'moments.' Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #2166 May 15, 2020 33 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Man oh man. This, too, is a “what the actual fuck” moment. Wendy P. I am very very worried for what happens in the fall when the possibility of a serious second wave takes effect. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,395 #2167 May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, wmw999 said: Man oh man. This, too, is a “what the actual fuck” moment. This is a well known fact. You don't have lung cancer until you go to the doctor and he tells you. Therefore if you never go to the doctor, you never get lung cancer. You see this phenomenon all the time in VA hospitals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 420 #2168 May 15, 2020 16 hours ago, turtlespeed said: I think since the clock already started, that the lines will need to be even more to meet the deadline. I suppose you can have a couple hundred thousand testers doing door to door tests. Western journalists are actually now allowed back in Wuhan, and it does seem the testing has started: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/wuhan-residents-queues-coronavirus-mass-testing-begins Even if they announce that they've completed the tests, you'll say they're lying anyway - but that's actually more to make yourself feel better than anything else. In the meantime, life goes on and the dying in the US continues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #2169 May 15, 2020 43 minutes ago, olofscience said: Western journalists are actually now allowed back in Wuhan, and it does seem the testing has started: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/wuhan-residents-queues-coronavirus-mass-testing-begins Even if they announce that they've completed the tests, you'll say they're lying anyway - but that's actually more to make yourself feel better than anything else. In the meantime, life goes on and the dying in the US continues. Not understanding the whole testing thing. Is Wuhan locked down? If not someone from the outside who is a carrier comes to town and the whole thing starts all over again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 420 #2170 May 15, 2020 Just now, airdvr said: Not understanding the whole testing thing. Is Wuhan locked down? If not someone from the outside who is a carrier comes to town and the whole thing starts all over again. Nope, they ended their lockdown a month ago (April 8). That's the entire reasoning for the mass testing - there were a few new clusters, so they need to find the asymptomatic carriers and then do contact tracing/selective isolation from there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 420 #2171 May 15, 2020 Just now, airdvr said: Not understanding the whole testing thing. And to their credit, the White House actually understands the testing/contact tracing thing, because it was done when the staffers tested positive. It's just that they don't think the rest of the US needs or deserves it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #2172 May 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, olofscience said: Nope, they ended their lockdown a month ago (April 8). That's the entire reasoning for the mass testing - there were a few new clusters, so they need to find the asymptomatic carriers and then do contact tracing/selective isolation from there. And when an outsider comes to town who is a carrier and hasn't been tested...? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 420 #2173 May 15, 2020 (edited) Just now, airdvr said: And when an outsider comes to town who is a carrier and hasn't been tested...? They test everyone. They also have a health colour code system implemented nationwide. Here's the full list of travel guidelines that should answer exactly that question: Edited May 15, 2020 by olofscience Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #2174 May 15, 2020 Not seeing Wuhan on the list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 420 #2175 May 15, 2020 Just now, airdvr said: Not seeing Wuhan on the list. Wuhan is the capital city of Hubei province. In addition, there's a complete travel ban on non-citizens arriving in China. Citizens are allowed in after testing and a 14-day quarantine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites