jakee 1,254 #201 February 16, 2020 On 2/15/2020 at 4:17 AM, ryoder said: Did you read the article? Once enough states have entered into the agreement to cover 270+ EC votes, each state assigns all of its EC votes to the winner of the nationwide popular vote. At this point the EC winner will be the popular winner, and the EC becomes nothing but a formality which confirms the popular vote. I actually had not. My apologies, it looks like a very good idea and a really interesting concept. Thanks for bringing it up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #202 February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, jakee said: I actually had not. My apologies, it looks like a very good idea and a really interesting concept. Thanks for bringing it up! Instead of State - They should go by county. Counties all get one vote. State tallies up the vote - then there are 50 EC votes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #203 February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: Instead of State - They should go by county. Counties all get one vote. State tallies up the vote - then there are 50 EC votes. You want to fix the unfairness inherent in the EC by massively, massively amplifying the unfairness inherent in the EC? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #204 February 16, 2020 2 hours ago, jakee said: You want to fix the unfairness inherent in the EC by massively, massively amplifying the unfairness inherent in the EC? Of course he does. One of the 'facts' Rs like to tout is how many counties voted for Trump. The simple fact that the population of many of those counties is insignificant is something they conveniently ignore. The idea that a state like Vermont or Wyoming should have the 'same vote' as California, New York or Texas is ludicrous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #205 February 16, 2020 Now that the Republican Senate has officially okay'd lying and criminal behavior, Hope Hicks returns to the White House team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #206 February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, headoverheels said: Now that the Republican Senate has officially okay'd lying and criminal behavior, Hope Hicks returns to the White House team. I read Spicey is coming back too. SNL will get even better now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #207 February 17, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 1:59 PM, wolfriverjoe said: Of course he does. One of the 'facts' Rs like to tout is how many counties voted for Trump. The simple fact that the population of many of those counties is insignificant is something they conveniently ignore. The idea that a state like Vermont or Wyoming should have the 'same vote' as California, New York or Texas is ludicrous. That is the very reason for the EC. It is designed to prevent the tyranny of the majority. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #208 February 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, brenthutch said: That is the very reason for the EC. It is designed to prevent the tyranny of the majority. My interpretation of it was that is was mainly a compromise ensuring the power of the elites. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #209 February 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, brenthutch said: That is the very reason for the EC. It is designed to prevent the tyranny of the majority. And instead opts for the occasional 'tyranny' of the minority. Cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #210 February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, jakee said: And instead opts for the occasional 'tyranny' of the minority. Cool. Cool or not, it was part of the foundation of our country. Don't like it? Quit complaining and just amend the Constitution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #211 February 18, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, gowlerk said: My interpretation of it was that is was mainly a compromise ensuring the power of the elites. You are correct but it was also a compromise between small states and large states. It is the same reason that we have two senators for each state. Ironically, if the EC still functioned as originally intended, Trump would have never become president as it was designed to prevent the rabble from having a voice. Edited February 18, 2020 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #212 February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: Cool or not, it was part of the foundation of our country. Don't like it? Quit complaining and just amend the Constitution. He Can't. He'd have to vote. Sorry - I just couldn't stop myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,121 #213 February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, gowlerk said: My interpretation of it was that is was mainly a compromise ensuring the power of the elites. From reading Madison’s notes, this is a far more accurate interpretation. The founding fathers were British in upbringing, in a time when class really mattered. They didn’t want to perpetuate that, but they didn’t want to ensure the (quotes mine) “rule of an illiterate rabble.” Remember that in those days, the House of Commons didn’t have nearly as much power as Lords, and that was perfectly normal to them. My reading of it was that the EC was brought in to ensure that the “wrong” candidate didn’t win Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #214 February 18, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: He Can't. He'd have to vote. Sorry - I just couldn't stop myself. Wow, I just looked up his home DZ, in Switzerland??? I am going to start opining on raclette now. I think the raclette served in Chamonix is superior to that greasy crap I got in Zurich. Edited February 18, 2020 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #215 February 18, 2020 It's nice that our bipartisan votes in the purple states decides the elections. Our history has been fair enough. I see no reason to change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #216 February 20, 2020 On 2/14/2020 at 1:05 PM, jakee said: it's up to you to show what kind of guy you are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
