brenthutch 383 #51 February 20, 2020 WOW, last night was a blood bath up on the debate stage. Bloomberg had a bullseye tattooed on his head, and I thought mayor Pete and Klobuchar were going to come to blows. As it stands now it looks like Bernie is going to be the nominee and Trump will get another four years. (I wonder how long the notorious RBG will be able to hang in there) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #52 February 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, brenthutch said: WOW, last night was a blood bath up on the debate stage. Bloomberg had a bullseye tattooed on his head, and I thought mayor Pete and Klobuchar were going to come to blows. As it stands now it looks like Bernie is going to be the nominee and Trump will get another four years. (I wonder how long the notorious RBG will be able to hang in there) I know! I need to pinch myself just thinking of the wonderful world we'll live in with an invincible majority on the Supreme Court and totally stacked Circuit Courts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #53 February 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: I know! I need to pinch myself just thinking of the wonderful world we'll live in with an invincible majority on the Supreme Court and totally stacked Circuit Courts. #Winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #54 February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, brenthutch said: #Winning I'm 18 with a bullet, got my finger on the trigger gonna pull it. So much winning. Tell that to your LGBTQ friends and the women you love whose bodies aren't their own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #55 February 20, 2020 (edited) I am a Libertarian NOUN: 1. One who advocates maximizing individual rights and minimizing the role of the state. Just how does that make me a homophobe, or a misogynist? Edited February 20, 2020 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #56 February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I am a Libertarian NOUN: 1. One who advocates maximizing individual rights and minimizing the role of the state. Just how does that make me a homophobe, or a misogynist? Your zeal for the dulcet tones of automatic weapon fire Trump your concern for the individual rights of others. You would, by your own written words, take your gun rights over LGBTQ or women's rights. And not just rational gun rights, you want judges that will make case law your ability to buy hand grenades or rocket launchers. When it comes to guns, like old Henry Stamper, your motto is "Never give an inch." And if the judges who give you that gift fuck over someone else well it sucks to be them. Sorry guy, that's who and what you are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #57 February 20, 2020 Gun rights ARE women's and LGBTQ rights. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols https://thewellarmedwoman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #58 February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: Your zeal for the dulcet tones of automatic weapon fire Trump your concern for the individual rights of others. You would, by your own written words, take your gun rights over LGBTQ or women's rights. And not just rational gun rights, you want judges that will make case law your ability to buy hand grenades or rocket launchers. When it comes to guns, like old Henry Stamper, your motto is "Never give an inch." And if the judges who give you that gift fuck over someone else well it sucks to be them. Sorry guy, that's who and what you are. Wow - Just wow. You don't see that you are too bust judging to see that is your very own trait. "Never Give an Inch" <Face Palm> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #59 February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: Gun rights ARE women's and LGBTQ rights. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols https://thewellarmedwoman.com I hadn't thought about that. Women can now demand doctors provide abortions at gunpoint and gays can enjoy good old southern shotgun weddings. You, you totally get what's going on. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #60 February 20, 2020 59 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Wow - Just wow. You don't see that you are too bust judging to see that is your very own trait. "Never Give an Inch" <Face Palm> Give an inch on what? I own several guns and support reasonable gun rights, always have. I do not support ridiculous extreme gun rights that can only be guaranteed by extreme judges who, like far too many on the right, are are fond of limiting the civil rights of more than half of all Americans. I think it's Brent who needs to reflect on the big picture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #61 February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: Give an inch on what? I own several guns and support reasonable gun rights, always have. I do not support ridiculous extreme gun rights that can only be guaranteed by extreme judges who, like far too many on the right, are are fond of limiting the civil rights of more than half of all Americans. I think it's Brent who needs to reflect on the big picture. I'm fine with the gun rights I had during the Obama administration. No need any of this "extreme" gobbledygook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #62 February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I'm fine with the gun rights I had during the Obama administration. No need any of this "extreme" gobbledygook. You mean the extreme gun rights gifted by Scalia in DC v. Heller in 2008 five months before Obama was elected? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #63 February 20, 2020 (edited) All Heller, did was to state the obvious, that the Second Amendment, pertained to the individual (just like the rest of the Bill of Rights). It is the law of the land, get used to it. Edited February 20, 2020 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #64 February 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, brenthutch said: All Heller, did was to state the obvious, that the Second Amendment, pertained to the individual (just like the rest of the Bill of Rights). It is the law of the land, get used to it. It also stated the right wasn't exclusive and that it could have additional requirements and regulations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #65 February 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, brenthutch said: All Heller, did was to state the obvious, that the Second Amendment, pertained to the individual (just like the rest of the Bill of Rights). It is the law of the land, get used to it. No, it made any two individuals a militia. You think it's a prime example of wise jurisprudence, I think it's a jackass decision. Yes, it is the law of the land but if it wasn't, if Scalia had recognized that the word regulation meant regulation, would you be willing to get used to it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #66 February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, turtlespeed said: You don't see that you are too bust judging to see that is your very own trait. "Never Give an Inch" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #67 February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, JoeWeber said: No, it made any two individuals a militia. You think it's a prime example of wise jurisprudence, I think it's a jackass decision. Yes, it is the law of the land but if it wasn't, if Scalia had recognized that the word regulation meant regulation, would you be willing to get used to it? Don’t have to worry about it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #68 February 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Don’t have to worry about it Zorbing through life, not a care beyond your personal bubble. You really should write a book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #69 February 23, 2020 Bernie is killing it in NV. As of now it looks like the B-man will be your nominee. With Klobuchar staying in, at least through SC, and no evidence that mayor Pete, Steyer, Bloomberg, Warren and Biden are getting out, the non-insane vote will be divvied up and you will suffer the same fate the Republicans did in 2016. We will, yet again, have a choice between two totally unacceptable candidates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,299 #70 February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, brenthutch said: Bernie is killing it in NV. As of now it looks like the B-man will be your nominee. With Klobuchar staying in, at least through SC, and no evidence that mayor Pete, Steyer, Bloomberg, Warren and Biden are getting out, the non-insane vote will be divvied up and you will suffer the same fate the Republicans did in 2016. We will, yet again, have a choice between two totally unacceptable candidates. Mad Mike Hughes found a way out, after a fashion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #71 February 23, 2020 4 hours ago, brenthutch said: We will, yet again, have a choice between two totally unacceptable candidates. Hi Brent, I, for one, am not there yet. As I have posted before, Bernie is far from my 1st choice. But, he will get my vote if it comes to that. * Jerry Baumchen * The first time I ever voted for POTUS, my choices were LBJ or Goldwater. Held my nose & voted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,382 #72 February 23, 2020 Just now, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Brent, I, for one, am not there yet. As I have posted before, Bernie is far from my 1st choice. But, he will get my vote if it comes to that. * Jerry Baumchen * The first time I ever voted for POTUS, my choices were LBJ or Goldwater. Held my nose & voted. Going from memory here, so the quote may not be word-for-word. "In the 1964 election, I was going to vote for Goldwater. But all my friends were telling me: 'Don't do that!!! If you vote for Goldwater, we'll have war!!!' But I didn't listen to them, and voted for him anyway. And damned if they weren't right; We had war." -- P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #73 February 23, 2020 14 hours ago, ryoder said: Going from memory here, so the quote may not be word-for-word. "In the 1964 election, I was going to vote for Goldwater. But all my friends were telling me: 'Don't do that!!! If you vote for Goldwater, we'll have war!!!' But I didn't listen to them, and voted for him anyway. And damned if they weren't right; We had war." -- P.J. O'Rourke Hi Robert, I do not know if your quote is perfect or not, but it was the sentiment at the time. And, one of the reasons why I voted for LBJ. And, we know how that turned out. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #74 February 26, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 7:50 PM, brenthutch said: Bernie is killing it in NV. As of now it looks like the B-man will be your nominee. With Klobuchar staying in, at least through SC, and no evidence that mayor Pete, Steyer, Bloomberg, Warren and Biden are getting out, the non-insane vote will be divvied up and you will suffer the same fate the Republicans did in 2016. We will, yet again, have a choice between two totally unacceptable candidates. 100%. As long as we use the winner-take-all voting method in elections with more than two candidates we're going to end up with second - third - last choice candidates running our county. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #75 February 26, 2020 53 minutes ago, DJL said: 100%. As long as we use the winner-take-all voting method in elections with more than two candidates we're going to end up with second - third - last choice candidates running our county. Why can't we just go back to the practice that the loser becomes Vice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites