turtlespeed 212 #26 January 29, 2020 3 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: Because investigators generally don't tell the press how their investigations are going. They wait until the investigation has reached the point where they are arresting people. They aren't there yet. This is evidenced by how the impeachment is run. Gotcha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #27 January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, turtlespeed said: This is evidenced by how the impeachment is run. Gotcha. Impeachment is not a criminal investigation. It's basically an internal disciplinary hearing run by politicians. At best it's an employment tribunal. Analogous to a criminal investigation? Fugeddaboutit. Stupid argument and you know it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,384 #28 January 29, 2020 19 hours ago, turtlespeed said: The amount of publicity it receives - Why are you ignoring the investigations into Epstein's accomplices? Why do you think they don't matter? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #29 January 30, 2020 19 hours ago, billvon said: Why are you ignoring the investigations into Epstein's accomplices? Why do you think they don't matter? They absolutely do - And I - HOPE - that the attention span of the media is long enough to keep the public's memory from fading when it comes to ALL of those deplorables. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,384 #30 January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, turtlespeed said: They absolutely do - But you haven't been posting about them very much lately (until this thread.) Why aren't you paying more attention to them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #31 January 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, billvon said: But you haven't been posting about them very much lately (until this thread.) Why aren't you paying more attention to them? Because I screwed up - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,384 #32 January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: Because I screwed up - Ah, OK. No worries. (Keep in mind that other people may do the same.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #33 January 30, 2020 3 hours ago, billvon said: Ah, OK. No worries. (Keep in mind that other people may do the same.) Yeah - But its not actually my job description to report news. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #34 January 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Yeah - But its not actually my job description to report news. What news has there been? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #35 January 30, 2020 Just now, jakee said: What news has there been? Well - it's not the kind that keeps people's eyes on the ball. It seems to me to have petered out and coverage pushed way to the back burner - when this should still be a manhunt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #36 January 31, 2020 41 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: It seems to me to have petered out and coverage pushed way to the back burner - when this should still be a manhunt. What news is there to report in this manhunt? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #37 January 31, 2020 37 minutes ago, jakee said: What news is there to report in this manhunt? Considering that the investigators found a treasure trove of information in Epstein's safe, they have the names of the people that they are 'hunting' for. Considering that many or most of them are prominent, wealthy people, I don't think 'manhunt' would be what is happening. Far more 'consolidating' the data, crosschecking and confirming what happened and who did it, making damned sure all of the 'Is are dotted & Ts crossed' properly, so that the high end, high priced defense lawyers won't have any 'loopholes' to exploit and guilty pleas will be more likely. Of course, none of that makes big headlines, and the investigators aren't seeking out the media spotlight during this process. But since some people don't see the headlines in their news feed, there must not be any work being done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 620 #38 January 31, 2020 36 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: Considering that the investigators found a treasure trove of information in Epstein's safe, they have the names of the people that they are 'hunting' for. Considering that many or most of them are prominent, wealthy people, I don't think 'manhunt' would be what is happening. Far more 'consolidating' the data, crosschecking and confirming what happened and who did it, making damned sure all of the 'Is are dotted & Ts crossed' properly, so that the high end, high priced defense lawyers won't have any 'loopholes' to exploit and guilty pleas will be more likely. Of course, none of that makes big headlines, and the investigators aren't seeking out the media spotlight during this process. But since some people don't see the headlines in their news feed, there must not be any work being done. I'm wondering how the DNA evidence request will play out, what it may lead to in other cases. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #39 January 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, normiss said: I'm wondering how the DNA evidence request will play out, what it may lead to in other cases. I don't want anyone to forget about this. I don't want the phenomenon of "Out of Sight - Out of Mind" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,117 #40 January 31, 2020 The more publicity that happens around investigation, the more that powerful people will have to counter specific points. Of course, that means we have to trust that the powers-that-be will continue. That’s where having investigators who work to find what the evidence shows, rather than making sure they find enough to do what they want to do, is valuable. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #41 January 31, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: Considering that the investigators found a treasure trove of information in Epstein's safe, they have the names of the people that they are 'hunting' for. Considering that many or most of them are prominent, wealthy people, I don't think 'manhunt' would be what is happening. Far more 'consolidating' the data, crosschecking and confirming what happened and who did it, making damned sure all of the 'Is are dotted & Ts crossed' properly, so that the high end, high priced defense lawyers won't have any 'loopholes' to exploit and guilty pleas will be more likely. Of course, none of that makes big headlines, and the investigators aren't seeking out the media spotlight during this process. But since some people don't see the headlines in their news feed, there must not be any work being done. That is exactly the strategy from Q. That is the substance of "the storm is coming." Edited January 31, 2020 by RonD1120 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #42 January 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: That is exactly the strategy from Q. That is the substance of "the storm is coming." You are aware that prominent conservatives, as well as the Clintons, were involved in this, right? Trump, Dershowitz and many others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #43 January 31, 2020 I want to see them all brought down. Hopefully the powers that be are crossing the i's and dotting the t's like someone else said earlier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,384 #44 January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, airdvr said: I want to see them all brought down. Well, one is being impeached right now, so you may get your wish. (Although with the current GOP objection to justice, probably not.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,384 #45 January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said: That is exactly the strategy from Q. That is the substance of "the storm is coming." That and drinking bleach to keep you safe from coronavirus, of course. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #46 January 31, 2020 I think we're assuming a lot more involvement from his list of socialites. We know Epstein rubbed shoulders with basically every wealthy person on the planet, he was a dedicated social climber. That doesn't mean those people joined him in raping children. Prince Andrew definitely did but I haven't seen any other names. His ex girlfriend is on the hook for grooming and manipulating the children. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #47 January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, DJL said: I think we're assuming a lot more involvement from his list of socialites. We know Epstein rubbed shoulders with basically every wealthy person on the planet, he was a dedicated social climber. That doesn't mean those people joined him in raping children. Prince Andrew definitely did but I haven't seen any other names. His ex girlfriend is on the hook for grooming and manipulating the children. Maybe, maybe not. I have no idea who his entire 'friend list' would include. I highly doubt that all of them were involved in sexual misconduct. But I bet it will be more than 'just a little' surprising if and when prosecutors reveal all the names that Epstein had 'good blackmail' data on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 143 #48 February 26, 2020 On 1/31/2020 at 9:47 AM, turtlespeed said: I don't want anyone to forget about this. I don't want the phenomenon of "Out of Sight - Out of Mind" Provided of course that the investigation is into Clinton being an associate of Epstein. Trump on the other hand was only an associate and therefore any investigation is harassment! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #49 February 26, 2020 11 hours ago, nigel99 said: Provided of course that the investigation is into Clinton being an associate of Epstein. Trump on the other hand was only an associate and therefore any investigation is harassment! I don't think the Epstein issue should be politicized. Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, if you are implicated in Epstein's world, it should be thoroughly investigated. Let the chips fall where they fall. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #50 February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, SkyDekker said: if you are implicated in Epstein's world, it should be thoroughly investigated absolutely people like Epstein and Weinstein are despicable and should be prosecuted to the fullest as well as there enablers 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites