murps2000 86 #1176 October 9, 2020 Has Q said anything about the fly On Pence's head? Maybe I'm just flashing back to those Amityville movies, but that thing looked pretty Luciferian to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,340 #1177 October 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, murps2000 said: Has Q said anything about the fly On Pence's head? Maybe I'm just flashing back to those Amityville movies, but that thing looked pretty Luciferian to me. Hi murps, Apparently, it is being talked a bunch on social media. 'What do flies land on??? A pile of shit!' 'Yes, but also the dead and dying.' 'Flies are not the only BS detectors.' Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skwrl 56 #1178 October 9, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, murps2000 said: Has Q said anything about the fly On Pence's head? Maybe I'm just flashing back to those Amityville movies, but that thing looked pretty Luciferian to me. You mean maybe because he’s Beelzebub? Or does saying crazy shit only work when Ron repeats it from a forum notorious for child pornography and Russian disinformation efforts? Edited to add: no, wait, it doesn’t make sense when he does it either... Edited October 9, 2020 by Skwrl Because Q is a lie and Ron knows it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skwrl 56 #1179 October 9, 2020 On a related topic, Ron, how’s that Durham Report going? Big bombshell, am I right? Lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #1180 October 9, 2020 21 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: Because discrimination is illegal. If someone wishes to sell 'to the public', they have to sell to the whole 'public'. A baker is permitted to choose to sell or not sell wedding cakes. But if that baker chooses to sell wedding cakes, he has to sell wedding cakes to everyone. They cannot say "I'll sell wedding cakes to anyone except black people" or "I'll sell wedding cakes to anyone but Jewish people". And all Trump has to do to stay on Twitter is to follow the rules. Those same rules apply to everyone. But he's been ignoring rules his ENTIRE LIFE. I don't think he's capable of exercising enough restraint to do that. I seriously doubt if the standards that are applied to Trump would be applied to Biden. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,445 #1181 October 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I seriously doubt if the standards that are applied to Trump would be applied to Biden. Would be? They actually are. His posts don't break the rules therefore they stand unchallenged. Ipso facto the standard is being applied. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,409 #1182 October 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I seriously doubt if the standards that are applied to Trump would be applied to Biden. They aren't, one of the reasons you love Trump so much is because he isn't following the presidential standards, expectations or decorum. You yourself hold Trump to much lower standards than any previous president and likely future presidents. You find his crassness endearing, it shows he is not part of the liberal elite and "one of us". You are very selective in when you are demanding equity in standards. Actually, you are only demanding it when you perceive it to be in your favour. Otherwise you dismiss it as snowflakes who want to force political correctness. If you and your ilk upheld standards, Trump would never have even made it through primaries. If the last 4 years have shown anything, republicans have no standards. Evangelicals that prop up your party have no standards. You stand for nothing. The only thing that is cared about is: what is in it for me. All that to say that Twitter likely would treat them the same, if anything they are likely giving Trump benefit over anything else. I know you don't believe that, but just look at twitter removing death wishes regarding Trump, but they didn't do that when your fine countrymen wished visible minority senators dead. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,916 #1183 October 9, 2020 45 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I seriously doubt if the standards that are applied to Trump would be applied to Biden. I hear this all the time. "Why are MY posts censored when that liberal's posts aren't?" Because Obama and Harris were actually born in the US and are citizens. It's not a double standard based on political party It's a single standard based on who is lying and who is advocating violence. And currently, one party pretty much has a monopoly on those. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #1184 October 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, billvon said: I hear this all the time. "Why are MY posts censored when that liberal's posts aren't?" Because Obama and Harris were actually born in the US and are citizens. It's not a double standard based on political party It's a single standard based on who is lying and who is advocating violence. And currently, one party pretty much has a monopoly on those. If you are referring to this micro universe, then it actually seems to be lopsided to the right . . . until it isn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #1185 October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, SkyDekker said: If the last 4 years have shown anything, republicans have no standards. Evangelicals that prop up your party have no standards. You stand for nothing. The only thing that is cared about is: what is in it for me. "I've got mine, fuck you." The Republican mantra that's finally out in the open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #1186 October 10, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, tonyhays said: "I've got mine, fuck you." The Republican mantra that's finally out in the open. It's a lot more akin to - I have mine, and you don't have the right to take it from me and force me to give it to someone I don't want to. Despite how much you want to. Edited October 10, 2020 by turtlespeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,384 #1187 October 12, 2020 What, like the Iraq war or the border wall? Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,916 #1188 October 12, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 3:17 PM, turtlespeed said: It's a lot more akin to - I have mine, and you don't have the right to take it from me and force me to give it to someone I don't want to. Unless you have Trump's money and he needs it for, say, his wall, or a trillion dollar bailout, or a bunch more F-35's. He is spending far more of his money (that somehow got into your pocket because of your "wages" or something) than any previous president. What are you doing with so much of Trump's money, Turtle? Since you're a little person you'll have to pay up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #1189 October 12, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 8:55 AM, Skwrl said: Because Q is a lie and Ron knows it. I don't think he does. I think he is quite sincere in his beliefs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,164 #1190 October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, murps2000 said: I don't think he does. I think he is quite sincere in his beliefs. Ron has stated clearly and repeatedly that feelings and emotions are far more important than mere facts. Ron knows full well that Q is largely lies, but that does not matter because the essence of the Q belief system aligns with his. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,445 #1191 October 12, 2020 3 hours ago, gowlerk said: Ron has stated clearly and repeatedly that feelings and emotions are far more important than mere facts. Ron knows full well that Q is largely lies, but that does not matter because the essence of the Q belief system aligns with his. Unsurprisingly, he tries to have it both ways. Whenever Q says makes a prediction (no matter how obvious) that ends up happening it's proof that Q really does work for US intelligence and knows exactly what's going on. When Q makes a prediction that doesn't happen it's misdirection to keep the enemy from figuring out their real plan. When Q says something utterly batshit insane it's proof of the strength of the movement that it still resonates with Ron and all his friends despite being total nonsense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 60 #1192 October 12, 2020 Q/QAnon exists, that is fact. It is an organizing movement that supports President Trump, provides some measure of hope and faith in his administration. It grows and is maintained outside of the conventional social platforms. Its presence is a threat to the DS and other grand liberal, socialist, communist agendas. It is a spiritual movement. I think of it as, one of my favorite grad school terms, a zeitgeist. WWG1WGA...to the polls. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,142 #1193 October 12, 2020 7 hours ago, jakee said: Unsurprisingly, he tries to have it both ways. Whenever Q says makes a prediction (no matter how obvious) that ends up happening it's proof that Q really does work for US intelligence and knows exactly what's going on. When Q makes a prediction that doesn't happen it's misdirection to keep the enemy from figuring out their real plan. When Q says something utterly batshit insane it's proof of the strength of the movement that it still resonates with Ron and all his friends despite being total nonsense. So like a cult or religion then! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,164 #1194 October 12, 2020 48 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: Its presence is a threat to the DS and other grand liberal, socialist, communist agendas. Not really much of a threat. More of a warning that people like you are out there. It's like knowing about Q helps us all in our task as Watchmen. Just knowing about Q is going to drive progressive turnout in the election of Nov.3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,935 #1195 October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said: Q/QAnon exists, that is fact. It is an organizing movement that supports President Trump, provides some measure of hope and faith in his administration These people KNOW that Trump is a liar, a cheat, a fraud, and likely the most corrupt president in US history, and they simply don't care because his bigotry aligns with theirs. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,142 #1196 October 12, 2020 55 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Not really much of a threat. More of a warning that people like you are out there. It's like knowing about Q helps us all in our task as Watchmen. Just knowing about Q is going to drive progressive turnout in the election of Nov.3. I'm not so sure about that. It could easily spawn more groups like the Michigan 13. QAnon Is Thriving in Germany. The Extreme Right Is Delighted. "as thousands of American troops began NATO maneuvers in Germany, Attila Hildmann did a quick YouTube search to see what it was all about. He quickly came across videos posted by German followers of QAnon. In their telling, this was no NATO exercise. It was a covert operation by President Trump to liberate Germany from Chancellor Angela Merkel’s government — something they applauded. “The Q movement said these are troops that will free the German people from Merkel,” said Mr. Hildmann, a vegan celebrity cook who had not heard of QAnon before last spring. “I very much hope that Q is real.” Just as crazy as the Michigan group's idea of a "citizens arrest" is. So is the idea that trump will direct a coup in Germany. Yet traction for these ideas grows with those with a detached sense of reality colored by right wing ideology. Below images from Qanon protests Germany. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,496 #1197 October 12, 2020 I wonder how many swastika flags would be flying at that German rally if they weren't prohibited. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,142 #1198 October 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: I wonder how many swastika flags would be flying at that German rally if they weren't prohibited. QAnon is a Nazi Cult, Rebranded "I have studied and worked to prevent genocide for forty years. Genocide Watch and the Alliance Against Genocide, the first international anti-genocide coalition, see such hate-filled conspiracy theories as early warning signs of deadly genocidal violence. The plot, described above, was the conspiracy “revealed” in the most influential anti-Jewish pamphlet of all time. It was called The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It was written by Russian anti-Jewish propagandists around 1902. It collected myths about a Jewish plot to take over the world that had existed for hundreds of years. Central to its mythology was the Blood Libel, which claimed that Jews kidnapped and slaughtered Christian children and drained their blood to mix in the dough for matzos consumed on Jewish holidays.... In fact, according to Eric Feinberg, vice president of content moderation at the Coalition for a Safer Web, which aims to combat extremism online, references to the Elders of Zion and to a “Zionist-occupied government” are common on QAnon forums. He said QAnon adherents are latching on to widespread Jewish support for Democrats, especially as the election approaches. “In terms of Elders of Zion, calling out Hollywood, which tends to be Jewish, calling out specific Jewish congresspeople as pedophiles,” said Feinberg, describing antisemitic ideas found in QAnon. “Also, it tends to be that Jewish people align more with Democrats. They use that against us to basically say that Jews are pedophiles.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,916 #1199 October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, RonD1120 said: Q/QAnon exists, that is fact. It is an organizing movement that supports President Trump, provides some measure of hope and faith in his administration. It grows and is maintained outside of the conventional social platforms. Its presence is a threat to the DS and other grand liberal, socialist, communist agendas. It is a spiritual movement. And it is a terrorist organization - and will be treated as such by Americans. From The Hill: "A man who was arrested this week in connection with starting one of the massive wildfires in California has a history of promoting alt-right conspiracy theories. Forrest Gordon Clark, who local authorities have arrested and charged with two counts of felony arson and felony threatening to terrorize, spread a series of alt-right conspiracies on his personal Facebook page. The posts, first uncovered by Forbes's JJ MacNab who covers anti-government extremism, include messaging about "QAnon," a wide-ranging and vague theory that includes conspiracies such as Democrats and prominent Hollywood figures orchestrating underground pedophile rings." Next time a Qanon type shows up in the wilds of California they may not be allowed to do that a second time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,916 #1200 October 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: QAnon is a Nazi Cult, Rebranded . . .. Central to its mythology was the Blood Libel, which claimed that Jews kidnapped and slaughtered Christian children and drained their blood to mix in the dough for matzos consumed on Jewish holidays.... Not-so-fun fact: Qanon has claimed that Hillary Clinton (and Oprah, and Ellen, and pretty much any other well known liberal) tortured and killed children so she could drink their blood, since she believed that it would restore her youth. Getting harder and harder to find differences between Qanon and Nazism. From police officer (and Q disciple) Jason Bandy, on his Qanon podcast: "The elite, and the child pedophilia, Adrenochrome … Adrenochrome is the blood of children. And it’s extracted from the children during a time when they’re terrified, tortured, whatever it is to scare them, so that adrenaline is running through their blood. OK? The elite is taking this blood, they are drinking it and it’s giving them superhuman effects, OK? Fountain of youth effects." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites