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12 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Well, the QCumbers are going to have more to bitch about, but a harder time doing so.

 

FB shut down one of the more popular (and populous) Q pages.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-53692545?fbclid=IwAR3BEFP3HHqqnm9GPQHprFe-R-pkk3Oj-mo_1HCepPAFTJzzkT5tgdP70Ps#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

 

 

 

11 hours ago, nigel99 said:

No it’s a victory in their minds. Proof of persecution. We will be feeding them to the lions next

No Putin will be feeding them more news next.  Fancy Bear will be stepping up operations.

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QAnon Followers Are Hijacking the #SaveTheChildren Movement. Fans of the pro-Trump conspiracy theory are clogging anti-trafficking hotlines, infiltrating Facebook groups and raising false fears about child exploitation. NYT story.

Recently, an acquaintance posted a photo on her Instagram story showing a map of the United States, filled with bright red dots.

“This is not a map of Covid,” the caption read. “It is a map of human trafficking.”

Under the photo was a hashtag: #SaveTheChildren.

A few days later, I saw the same hashtag trending on Twitter. This time, it was being posted by followers of QAnon, the sprawling pro-Trump conspiracy theory. These people were also disturbed about human trafficking, but with a dark twist: Many of them believed that President Trump was on the verge of exposing “Pizzagate” or “Pedogate,” their terms for a global conspiracy involving a ring of Satan-worshiping, child-molesting criminals led by prominent Democrats.

My acquaintance is not a QAnon believer. And she certainly doesn’t think, as some QAnon adherents do, that Hillary Clinton and her cronies are kidnapping and eating children (yes, eating them) in order to harvest a life-extending chemical from their blood.

But like many social media users in recent weeks, she had been drawn in by the latest QAnon outreach strategy.

QAnon first surfaced in 2017 with a series of anonymous posts on the internet forum 4chan claiming to reveal high-level government intelligence about crimes by top Democrats. It has since spawned one of the most disturbing and consequential conspiracy theory communities in modern history. Its followers have committed serious crimes, and its online vigilantes have made a sport of harassing and doxxing their perceived enemies. The F.B.I. has cited QAnon as a potential domestic terror threat, and social networks have begun trying to pull QAnon groups off their platforms. Dozens of QAnon-affiliated candidates are running for office this year. One of them, Marjorie Taylor Greene, won a primary runoff Tuesday for a House seat in Georgia, drawing a congratulatory tweet from Mr. Trump.

Like any movement, QAnon needs to win over new members. And its most recent growth strategy involves piggybacking on the anti-human-trafficking movement.

Bizzaroworld.

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14 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

QAnon Followers Are Hijacking the #SaveTheChildren Movement. Fans of the pro-Trump conspiracy theory are clogging anti-trafficking hotlines, infiltrating Facebook groups and raising false fears about child exploitation. NYT story.

Recently, an acquaintance posted a photo on her Instagram story showing a map of the United States, filled with bright red dots.

“This is not a map of Covid,” the caption read. “It is a map of human trafficking.”

Under the photo was a hashtag: #SaveTheChildren.

A few days later, I saw the same hashtag trending on Twitter. This time, it was being posted by followers of QAnon, the sprawling pro-Trump conspiracy theory. These people were also disturbed about human trafficking, but with a dark twist: Many of them believed that President Trump was on the verge of exposing “Pizzagate” or “Pedogate,” their terms for a global conspiracy involving a ring of Satan-worshiping, child-molesting criminals led by prominent Democrats.

My acquaintance is not a QAnon believer. And she certainly doesn’t think, as some QAnon adherents do, that Hillary Clinton and her cronies are kidnapping and eating children (yes, eating them) in order to harvest a life-extending chemical from their blood.

But like many social media users in recent weeks, she had been drawn in by the latest QAnon outreach strategy.

QAnon first surfaced in 2017 with a series of anonymous posts on the internet forum 4chan claiming to reveal high-level government intelligence about crimes by top Democrats. It has since spawned one of the most disturbing and consequential conspiracy theory communities in modern history. Its followers have committed serious crimes, and its online vigilantes have made a sport of harassing and doxxing their perceived enemies. The F.B.I. has cited QAnon as a potential domestic terror threat, and social networks have begun trying to pull QAnon groups off their platforms. Dozens of QAnon-affiliated candidates are running for office this year. One of them, Marjorie Taylor Greene, won a primary runoff Tuesday for a House seat in Georgia, drawing a congratulatory tweet from Mr. Trump.

Like any movement, QAnon needs to win over new members. And its most recent growth strategy involves piggybacking on the anti-human-trafficking movement.

Bizzaroworld.

Your point seems to be that human trafficking is OK unless it is attacked by President Trump supporters via QAnon.

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27 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

Your point seems to be that human trafficking is OK unless it is attacked by President Trump supporters via QAnon.

No I think you misunderstood the quote from the NYT story. It relates how an individual and Q followers both influenced by social media. Have come to believe in some pretty bizarre ideas arising from the "latest QAnon outreach strategy".

In fact republican political leaders have been endorsing some of these opinions.

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1 hour ago, RonD1120 said:

Your point seems to be that human trafficking is OK unless it is attacked by President Trump supporters via QAnon.

It is absolutely impossible to draw that conclusion from what he said.

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39 minutes ago, kallend said:

Not if you're a kook who believes a sex trafficking ring operates from a basement that doesn't exist

Well, that belief has to extend to the idea that law enforcement is going after the 'right wing' folks accused of sex with minors, while blatantly ignoring those same crimes committed by the 'left'. 

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1 hour ago, Phil1111 said:

No I think you misunderstood the quote from the NYT story. It relates how an individual and Q followers both influenced by social media. Have come to believe in some pretty bizarre ideas arising from the "latest QAnon outreach strategy".

In fact republican political leaders have been endorsing some of these opinions.

The way I see that it works is this, President Trump supporters will not, can not rely on MSM information. We unite around positive input from back channel news sources. By far the Q posts are the most positive in that aspect. We share our beliefs at coffee shops, churches, veteran groups, and other gatherings. Patriot Guard Riders and the Combat Motorcycle Association are other examples.

The greatest benefit is that we can discuss the most relevant topics and still stay focused on supporting the POTUS.

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12 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

The way I see that it works is this, President Trump supporters will not, can not rely on MSM information. We unite around positive input from back channel news sources. By far the Q posts are the most positive in that aspect. We share our beliefs at coffee shops, churches, veteran groups, and other gatherings. Patriot Guard Riders and the Combat Motorcycle Association are other examples.

The greatest benefit is that we can discuss the most relevant topics and still stay focused on supporting the POTUS.

Kooks for Trump.

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24 minutes ago, normiss said:

Which from every angle requires an agenda that is anti-American as well as a disconnect from reality.

SkyDekker and Joe banter about Anti-Americanism. Q is a legitimate The FBI Declared QAnon a Domestic Terrorism Threat — and Conspiracy Theorists Are Psyched threat to the American state. Given Russian active actions in support of QAnon through Fancy Bear and similar Russian groups. Your previous statements that this is treasonous are not only warranted but appropriate.

Anti-American adjectives dilute the seriousness of a anti-state fifth column supported by foreign driven espionage units. For anyone thinking such words are overly dramatic. Read the stories the FBI has contributed to and take note that this group's supporters have killed already.

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5 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

Your point seems to be that human trafficking is OK unless it is attacked by President Trump supporters via QAnon.

If that is an example of how you read and interpret information - it's no wonder you think the MSM is full of lies.

"Today Trump announced that he would step up apprehension of children at the border.  In a directive sent to the border patrol . . . ."
Actual meaning - Trump will direct the border patrol to step up apprehension of children.
Qanon interpretation - Liberals support pedophilia.

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4 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

We unite around positive input from back channel news sources...

... regardless of their truth or accuracy.  That's why it's absurd.   You engage in no critical thought, no questioning if your 'positive' input might be blowing smoke up your ass.  

So, you completely miss the point - as usual.  Sex trafficking and child abuse exists.  It's a bad thing.  It should be rooted out and stopped and those engaged in it prosecuted. 

However, simply by accusing people you don't like of being sex traffickers or cannibals or whatever, that... doesn't make it true that those particular people are engaging in it. 

Example: I could accuse you of sex trafficking, Ron.  We know about your secret violations of the Mann Act.  That gang of 13 year old girls you kept in a cage - I heard all about it.  You see, a magic elf, code named P, told me about it on PasteBin.  Does that mean it's true?  I mean, sex trafficking exists, and a weird clown on an anonymous website told me it, without any evidence, so it must be true using your logic - when are you going to turn yourself in?

But of course, that's absurd.  People living in the real would would expect to see evidence of your crime before they even make the claim.  And I have no evidence to give, so people would rightly dismiss my claim.  And that's why people reject yours. 

You so desperately want to believe in the fantasy, though, that you ignore all evidence and logic to the contrary.  

I find it hard to believe that you're too un-intelligent to understand this, which leads me to the conclusion that you're actually saying a lot of this crap in pure bad faith.  

Unfortunately, what you're doing is actually hurting the people who are actually working in programs to stop real (not imaginary) sex trafficking.  Because if people flood the places with bogus tips about imaginary instances of sex trafficking, or - even worse - if people start to associate the legitimate programs to stop sex trafficking with whackadoodle theories, they might back away from their support from those worthy programs. 

Conclusion: You don't care about sex trafficking. You want those people you don't like "punished".  That's the sum total of your thinking.  

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Think QAnon Is on the Fringe? So Was the Tea Party.Followers of the pro-Trump conspiracy theory are winning elections and worrying moderate Republicans. Sound familiar? NYT Aug. 13

Democrats dismissed it as a fringe group of conspiracy-minded zealots. Moderate Republicans fretted over its potential to hurt their party’s image, while more conservative lawmakers carefully sought to harness its grass roots energy. Sympathetic media outlets covered its rallies, portraying it as an emerging strain of populist politics — a protest movement born of frustration with a corrupt, unaccountable elite.

Then, to everyone’s surprise, its supporters started winning elections.

That is a description of the Tea Party movement, which emerged in 2009 from the right-wing fringes and proceeded to become a major, enduring force in American conservatism.

But it could just as easily be a description of QAnon, the pro-Trump conspiracy theory that has emerged as a possible inheritor to the Tea Party’s mantle as the most potent grass roots force in right-wing politics.

This week, QAnon most likely got its first member of Congress: Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Republican from Georgia who won a primary runoff in a heavily Republican district on Tuesday. Ms. Greene has publicly supported QAnon, appearing on QAnon shows and espousing the movement’s unfounded belief that President Trump is on the verge of breaking up a shadowy cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophiles. Other QAnon-affiliated candidates have won primaries at the federal and state level, though few in districts as conservative as Ms. Greene’s.

QAnon, which draws its beliefs from the cryptic message board posts of an anonymous writer claiming to have access to high-level government intelligence, lacks the leadership structure and the dark-money connections of the early Tea Party. It also lacks realistic goals or anything resembling a coherent policy agenda. Its followers are internet vigilantes gripped by paranoid and violent revenge fantasies, not lower-my-taxes conservatives or opponents of the Affordable Care Act.

But following Ms. Greene’s primary win, some Washington insiders have begun to wonder if QAnon’s potential influence is being similarly underestimated. They worry that, just as the Tea Party gave cover to a racist “birther” movement that propelled conspiracy theories about President Barack Obama into the Republican mainstream, QAnon’s extreme views — which have led some followers to commit serious crimes — may prove difficult to contain.

“They’re delusional to dismiss it as a powerless fringe,” said Steve Schmidt, a longtime G.O.P. strategist and campaign veteran who has become a Trump critic. “The Republican Party is becoming the home to an amalgam of conspiracy theorists, fringe players, extremists and white nationalists that is out in the open in a startling way.”

To be clear: QAnon’s ideas are far more extreme than the Tea Party’s ever were. Tea Party supporters objected to Wall Street bailouts and the growing federal deficit; QAnon adherents believe that Hillary Clinton and George Soros are drinking the blood of innocent children. While Tea Party supporters generally sought to oust their political opponents at the ballot box, QAnon supporters cheer for top Democrats to be either imprisoned at Guantánamo Bay or rounded up and executed.

The story continues but this is the jest of it. Its no wonder Putin has a perpetual smug grin on his face. Its no wonder trump was elected.

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People seem to be spending a great deal of meaningless effort/words/time on these responses.

A Q supporter by definition is only going to be one of two things:

  • a) Delusional - using logic or reason in an argument with them is pointless, they're unwilling and/or unable to engage rationally.
  • b) Trolling - using logic or reason in an argument with them is pointless, your frustration is their goal.

Stop feeding them.

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Q has been dark for a couple weeks. This is the last post. You will notice the points refer to a variety of subjective directions for the QAnons to research. It is referred to as the Socratic form of teaching.

Sorry the copy is light text, highlight to read it.

Q!!Hs1Jq13jV6  31 Jul 2020 - 1:03:40 AM
[infiltration]
Only those who could[can] be controlled [via blackmail or like-beliefs] were installed in critical leadership positions across all political and non-political Control and Command Positions [CCP].
CCP [necessary] to ensure protective blanket [insurance].
Traitors everywhere.
[D] leadership in joint ops w/ China [CCP] in effort to regain power?
It was never about the virus.
Sequence of events.
Flynn 1st strike designed to 1. cripple 2. prevent exposure of illegal acts [Hussein WH CoC] through NAT SEC [intel] discovery 3. Install ‘controlled’ replacement [rogue1_McMaster].
McMaster removal of ‘loyalist’ intel community_NAT SEC
Install ‘controlled’ [rogue2_Coats_DNI] prevent DECLAS [House-Senate blockade].
Pre_Install [rogue3-6] > referral(s) to POTUS re: McMaster_Coats_Wray_Bolton_+++
Install ‘controlled’ [rogue7_Bolton]
Bolton removal of ‘loyalists’ intel community_NAT SEC
Intel community [NAT SEC_WH] essential to control [infiltration] to prevent DECLAS_public exposure of true events [illegal surv [R] candidates 1&2, House members 1-x , Senate members 1-x , Journalists 1-x , Amb 1-x] + CLAS 1-99 events.
Mueller installed [Comey termination_loss of power][POTUS inside of a box][prevent counter-attack].
Impeachment installed [Mueller termination _loss of power][POTUS inside of box][prevent counter-attack].
C19 insurance plan _above fail
C19 installed [Impeachment termination _loss of power][POTUS inside of box][prevent counter-attack].
C19 _stage 1: Inform POTUS [intel + CDC + WHO + S_advisor(s)] _nothing to fear _do not close travel _do nothing [the political ‘set up’]
C19 _stage 2: Inform POTUS of Dooms Day ‘inaccurate’ scenarios [models] predicting death count 1mm+ [the political ‘force’] _lock down [wipe economic and unemployment gains]
C19 _stage 3: Activate ‘controlled’ [D] GOVS to ‘spike’ death count + project statewide fear by presenting ‘alarming’ on-ground conditions [hospital [care-supplies] projections].
C19 _stage 4: Push testing, testing, testing to spike ‘infected’ rate incline due to daily testing inc [the political ‘set up’] _controlled MSDNC failure to report death count [rates] proportional to ‘infected’ rate _deliberate miscounting of infected numbers [%] _change non_positive to positive _label death of non_C19 as C19 _etc.
C19 _stage 5: Eliminate / censor any opposing views [anti-narrative]
[Ready when needed] Activate 4-year BLM narrative 4x power [use as division + [2020] C19 infect rates to justify close-limit until Nov 3].
C19 calculated [D] political gain:
1. Eliminate record economic gains
2. Eliminate record unemployment gains
3. Shelter Biden from public appearances _limit public exposure of mental condition
4. Shelter Biden from Ukraine exposure _narrative change _media focus C19
5. Shelter Biden from P_debates [requested demands due to C19]
6. Delay [D] convention _strategic take-over of nominee post conf
7. Eliminate_delay POTUS rallies _term energy
8. Eliminate ability for people to gather _ divide
9. Eliminate ability to find peace – strength in time of need [strict Church closures]
10. Promote mail-in-voting as only ‘safe’ method _bypass NSA election security [installed midterms +1].
11. Push state-bailout stimulus [CA][NY] + wish list items
12. Increase national debt [place China into controlling debt position _regain leverage]
13. Test conditional limits of public acceptance [obey]
14. Test conditional limits of public non_acceptance
15. Test conditional limits of State authority [Gov-mayor]
16. Test conditional limits of Media [social] censorship
Who benefits the most?
[D]?
China [CCP]?
Russia is the enemy.
China is our friend.
[MSDNC [social media] programming]
All assets deployed.
Everything seen yesterday, today, and tomorrow = calculated political moves/events designed and launched by [D] party in coordination with other domestic and foreign entities in an attempt to regain power over you.
Prevent accountability.
SHADOW PRESIDENCY [HUSSEIN]
SHADOW GOVERNMENT
INFORMATION WARFARE
INSURGENCY
Your voice and your vote matters.
Patriots stand united.
Welcome to the Revolution.
Q
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Trump's personal attorney says Trump had some golden showers in Moscow and Vegas, and confirmed that his foreign policy was the result of covert bribery by a hostile foreign power in 2015 and 2016. Now he's stopping funding to the USPS to stop mail in votes. This guy is a criminal traitor to the USA. His criminal fixer attorney also swears Trump won't leave the White House peacefully. I expect the next year to be nasty and painful for American history.

I wonder how this q nonsense is addressing that...and the lack of indictments they just swore were coming for the "Russher" hoax....or the Covid hoax...or just reality in general.

Actually I don't care what a bunch of loopy internet keyboard warriors actually think of reality. I still have trust in humans, at least those with a little intelligence. The expansion of ignorance in America is beyond belief.

 

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1 minute ago, normiss said:

 

Actually I don't care what a bunch of loopy internet keyboard warriors actually think of reality. I still have trust in humans, at least those with a little intelligence. The expansion of ignorance in America is beyond belief.

 

Ignorance is curable for those that want to cure it.  What I find sad is the number of people who wear their ignorance as if it were a badge of honor.

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3 minutes ago, kallend said:

Ignorance is curable for those that want to cure it.  What I find sad is the number of people who wear their ignorance as if it were a badge of honor.

 Unfortunately Darwin's natural selection process is powerless in the face of the internet and trumpism.

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52 minutes ago, normiss said:

Three characteristics conspiracy theorists share: high anxiety, loss of control, and an inability to think analytically.

In Ron's case, an invisible man issuing vague missives that can always be read to support his preconceived notions is very appealing to him.

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3 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

Q has been dark for a couple weeks. This is the last post. You will notice the points refer to a variety of subjective directions for the QAnons to research. It is referred to as the Socratic form of teaching.

As stupid as that whole post was, calling it Socratic is probably the stupidest part of all.

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4 hours ago, kallend said:

Ignorance is curable for those that want to cure it.  What I find sad is the number of people who wear their ignorance as if it were a badge of honor.

Unfortunately religion and especially Christianity has the insane underlying principle of “faith” and the sheep are actively taught not to question anything.

They prey on the vulnerable and easily manipulated. I’m pretty happy to generalise that most church leaders are predators, especially of the evangelical flavour.

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