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59 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

That 'level of production' can be accomplished with a GoPro and a decent laptop.

As I have asked before (and you have ignored), when is HRC going to be arrested? When are the military tribunals on Gitmo going to happen?

 

I can answer that - right after Mexico pays for The Wall, Trump's healthcare and infrastructure plans are passed by Congress, and he eliminates the National Debt (all as promised, and "only I can do it").

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20 minutes ago, kallend said:

I can answer that - right after Mexico pays for The Wall, Trump's healthcare and infrastructure plans are passed by Congress, and he eliminates the National Debt (all as promised, and "only I can do it").

Yes trump will be very busy in a second term: Trump wants to end U.S. reliance on Chinese manufacturing ‘once and for all.’ U.S. firms aren’t complying

But China has already taken the lead:

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and has financed about four percent of a total of US $26 trillion net external debt:

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In fact the US needs China more than China needs the US. This from "Industry Week" a manufacturing based information service primarily aimed at US exporting manufacturing companies. This goes beyond trump's rhetoric because most of trumps supporters don't understand these trade issues.

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49 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

... This goes beyond trump's rhetoric because most of trumps supporters don't understand these trade issues.

Trump's supporters don't understand that they're being conned.
Trump's supporters don't understand basic math.

To expect them to understand complex trade issues is pretty foolish.

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2 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Trump's supporters don't understand that they're being conned.
Trump's supporters don't understand basic math.

To expect them to understand complex trade issues is pretty foolish.

Any issues, Joe. They just don't have a personal need to know. I've often thought the "alternative facts" thing was a very well designed argument intended to resonate, because it is validating, with the religious. Credit where it's due it really worked. It sucks to have to face it but we are really separate groups. Now we're just the States of America.

 

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11 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Any issues, Joe. They just don't have a personal need to know. I've often thought the "alternative facts" thing was a very well designed argument intended to resonate, because it is validating, with the religious. Credit where it's due it really worked. It sucks to have to face it but we are really separate groups. Now we're just the States of America.

 

I believe you are beginning to see the light. Most of the country does not want to be ruled by CA, OR, WA, IL, NY, CN, etc. We desire a president that understands that concept, has faith in God, and wants America first.

[D] run states are in terrible shape.

Q is uniting us along those lines. That is really all that counts. 

WWG1WGA...to the polls.

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27 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

I believe you are beginning to see the light. Most of the country does not want to be ruled by CA, OR, WA, IL, NY, CN, etc. We desire a president that understands that concept, has faith in God, and wants America first.

[D] run states are in terrible shape.

Q is uniting us along those lines. That is really all that counts. 

WWG1WGA...to the polls.

No, D run states aren’t in terrible shape. They contribute more to the national tax burden than R run states; currently they have less Covid than R-run states (even accounting for the R-run states which accept science, like Ohio. 
If you’re using the presence of cities and ghettos as your delimiter, then maybe some work on why people left the country is necessary. 
But all those states have Americans in them. 
Wendy P. 

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27 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

I believe you are beginning to see the light. Most of the country does not want to be ruled by CA, OR, WA, IL, NY, CN, etc. We desire a president that understands that concept, has faith in God, and wants America first.

[D] run states are in terrible shape.

Q is uniting us along those lines. That is really all that counts. 

WWG1WGA...to the polls.

Can we have our money back so we can fix our problems? 

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1 hour ago, RonD1120 said:

I believe you are beginning to see the light. Most of the country does not want to be ruled by CA, OR, WA, IL, NY, CN, etc. We desire a president that understands that concept, has faith in God

They do not want to be united under a theocracy, either.  They want the freedom to do what they want - whether they are black, gay, veterans, trans, immigrants, disabled, women or Muslim.  All those people want the same rights that white straight Protestant men have.  And they have the right to want that; it's guaranteed by the US Constitution, which repeatedly refers to "people" and not "men" or "Christians" or "straight people."  And those people are understandably horrified when they see a president who supports white supremacists, calls veterans "losers" and "suckers," mocks the disabled, marginalizes women and calls the US Constitution "phony."
 

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We desire a president that understands that concept, has faith in God and wants America first.

I think perhaps that's not the best slogan to use.
 

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1 hour ago, RonD1120 said:

I believe you are beginning to see the light. Most of the country does not want to be ruled by CA, OR, WA, IL, NY, CN, etc. We desire a president that understands that concept, has faith in God, and wants America first.

I wonder, when Biden wins bth the popular vote and the EC, will you concede that he is the President most of the country wanted? Will you say he is the President 'we' desired? Will you admit that WWW1WWA to the polls.... and chose Biden?

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4 hours ago, billvon said:

And those people are understandably horrified when they see a president who supports white supremacists, calls veterans "losers" and "suckers," mocks the disabled, marginalizes women and calls the US Constitution "phony."
 

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We desire a president that understands that concept, has faith in God and wants America first.

I think perhaps that's not the best slogan to use.
 

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Your statement is from fake news stories. And the KKK is/was a Democratic Party organization. Actually, it is Luciferian.

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11 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

Your statement is from fake news stories. And the KKK is/was a Democratic Party organization. Actually, it is Luciferian.

Hi Ron,

Re:  'And the KKK is/was a Democratic Party organization.'

Using that logic, what I did in the back seat of my Chevy in 1957 defines the person that I am.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  I did not leave the Republican party, the party left me.

 

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33 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

Your statement is from fake news stories.

It is from things that Trump said.  Is Trump fake news?

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And the KKK is/was a Democratic Party organization. 


It was a Democratic organization.  It is now a Republican organization.

David Duke, Grand Wizard of the KKK, tried running for Democratic office several times as a Democrat.  He failed miserably.  So in 1988 he switched his party to Republican - and immediately won a seat on his state legislature.

It is telling that a KKK leader could not win election until he became a Republican.  Then he was welcomed with open arms into his new party.

BTW David Duke still supports Trump 100%.  Here's what he said after a Trump speech (see if you can identify any thing he has in common with your position):  "Great Trump Speech, America First! Stop Wars! Defeat the Corrupt elites! Protect our Borders!, Fair Trade! Couldn’t have said it better."

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10 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

I believe you are beginning to see the light. Most of the country does not want to be ruled by CA, OR, WA, IL, NY, CN, etc.

Ron, even in GA Stacey Abrams almost won over Kemp. And GA is a place that works hard to suppress the vote. There are a lot of people in your state who would be just fine with D policies and would not feel like they are being ruled by outsiders. Change is coming to a place near you.

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4 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

Your statement is from fake news stories. And the KKK is/was a Democratic Party organization. Actually, it is Luciferian.

That's funny, considering one of the few (like 20 total) newspaper endorsements for Trump in 16 was from the KKK "Crusader".


And, of course, after the White Power march & rally in Virginia in 2017, Trump called the Nazis & KKK 'very fine people'.

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4 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Ron,

Re:  'And the KKK is/was a Democratic Party organization.'

Using that logic, what I did in the back seat of my Chevy in 1957 defines the person that I am.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  I did not leave the Republican party, the party left me.

 

I had a '56 and it certainly defined who I am.

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12 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Ron, even in GA Stacey Abrams almost won over Kemp. And GA is a place that works hard to suppress the vote. There are a lot of people in your state who would be just fine with D policies and would not feel like they are being ruled by outsiders. Change is coming to a place near you.

I worked the polls 2014-2018, poll manager 2016 & 2018. I did not see or hear of any voter suppression except in the MSM. It was made up news, that is, fake.

GA requires prior registration and photo ID but Federal Law demands the right to vote even if you do not meet the requirements. It is called a Provisional Ballot. 

No one can be denied the right to vote. You simply have to show up on election day.

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6 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Are you going to let Ron move to Canada when Biden wins?

I'm sure he would be a fine neighbour here in the Crestview neighbourhood of Winnipeg. But I fear he may be a little on the old side to adapt to the winter. And many of his weapons could not travel with him, so he may feel fearful. And.....there are raccoons in the area and I know for sure he sees them as a metaphor for evil.

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5 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Are you going to let Ron move to Canada when Biden wins?

Thats a tough one, central to northern Alberta is the place for Ron. Lots of right wing religious:

"According to reports a group of individuals connected to Soldiers of Oden and The Clann, known far-right Islamophobic hate groups, entered the Al Rashid Mosque, the oldest operating mosque in Canada, on Friday around prayer services and appeared to be scouting the building. The men left after being asked by mosque officials about their presence and then confronted community members outside."

God’s Province: Evangelical Christianity, Political Thought and Conservatism in Alberta

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13 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Are you going to let Ron move to Canada when Biden wins?

Just telling him that Canada has socialized healthcare would be enough to keep him away. Just don't tell him he is already on socialized healthcare in the US. LOL!

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1 minute ago, ryoder said:

Just telling him that Canada has socialized healthcare would be enough to keep him away. Just don't tell him he is already on socialized healthcare in the US. LOL!

It's just baffling that people who are on medicare/medicaid (or the ACA-not Obamacare), social security, benefit greatly from the redistributed wealth from blue states, and myriad ways other peoples money eases their days are first in line to call someone else socialist. Crazy.

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8 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Just telling him that Canada has socialized healthcare would be enough to keep him away. Just don't tell him he is already on socialized healthcare in the US. LOL!

Its only socialism when immigrants or somebody else is getting benefits.Tell US farmers that the $22.5 Billion that they received in subsidies in 2019, for which without exception they'll vote trump is socialism. In fact they have a new name for it:

"The money flowed to farmers....Government-subsidized crop insurance covered some of the losses from flooding. Other payments were unprecedented. The U.S. Department of Agriculture simply sent him a check to compensate him for the low prices resulting from the trade war.

" 'Trump money' is what we call it," Henry said. "It helped a lot. And it's my understanding, they're going to do it again."

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