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[turtlespeed 212]

1 hour ago, RonD1120 said:

The one that speaks to YOU.

Well here is the rub.

I've tried that approach.

I need to know which one is correct, so as not to waste any time.

Which - One - Is - Correct?

[kallend 1,623]

2 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Well here is the rub.

I've tried that approach.

I need to know which one is correct, so as not to waste any time.

Which - One - Is - Correct?

In terms of return on investment, Church of England.  Eternal life  in return for almost no effort.

[okalb 78]

48 minutes ago, kallend said:

In terms of return on investment, Church of England.  Eternal life  in return for almost no effort.

That's pretty good but I think the Jews really have it best. Do anything you want all year long. All you have to do is not eat for 1 day each year and you are forgiven for everything. That seems like a pretty simple one. It also shows you the importance of food to my people

[gowlerk 1,911]

24 minutes ago, okalb said:

That's pretty good but I think the Jews really have it best. Do anything you want all year long. All you have to do is not eat for 1 day each year and you are forgiven for everything. That seems like a pretty simple one. It also shows you the importance of food to my people

The easiest way to get to heaven is to follow Kennism, the religion of Ken. Kennists believe that everyone goes to heaven, but our place in heaven is determined by how well we treated others during our lifetime. Kennism only has one rule. No one, least of all Ken, is allowed to make any money from Kennism.

Edited June 10, 2020 by gowlerk

[kallend 1,623]

1 hour ago, okalb said:

That's pretty good but I think the Jews really have it best. Do anything you want all year long. All you have to do is not eat for 1 day each year and you are forgiven for everything. That seems like a pretty simple one. It also shows you the importance of food to my people

Yes, but they haven't burned Anglicans since the 16th Century.  Judaism carries significant risks even now.

[okalb 78]

13 minutes ago, kallend said:

Yes, but they haven't burned Anglicans since the 16th Century.  Judaism carries significant risks even now.

Good point, ok, you win.

[turtlespeed 212]

3 hours ago, okalb said:

Good point, ok, you win.

OK - fine - Church of England - 

Which version of the bible is that so I can get it memorized.

[okalb 78]

11 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

OK - fine - Church of England - 

Which version of the bible is that so I can get it memorized.

Whichever version it was that Trump held up must be the only one that matters.

[turtlespeed 212]

1 hour ago, okalb said:

Whichever version it was that Trump held up must be the only one that matters.

Why?

[RonD1120 58]

For anyone interested, here is a good explanation of the QAnon phenomena. 

 

[mistercwood 287]

26 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

For anyone interested, here is a good explanation of the QAnon phenomena. 

 

It is, but not for the reasons you probably think. They have high production values on that channel, but the content chosen and the constant plugging of ways to give them money do confirm that the QAnon phenomenon is simply yet another example of how PT Barnum was right.

[normiss 622]

44 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

For anyone interested, here is a good explanation of the QAnon phenomena. 

 

Seems a lot like an ad for Russian disinformation to me with a side of religious insanity. Word salad added for intensity.

Timely topical and accurate for that matter.

[gowlerk 1,911]

21 minutes ago, normiss said:

Seems a lot like an ad for Russian disinformation to me with a side of religious insanity. Word salad added for intensity.

Timely topical and accurate for that matter.

He (Simon Esler) is the best kind of con man. He's Canadian!!!

https://poddtoppen.se/podcast/1458666262/journey-to-truth/ep-54-simon-esler-worlds-within-awakening-journey-spiritual-warfare-qanon-tactics

Not much info on him yet. He is still young but bound to make a splash. His acting career failed, but now he has a new gig fooling stupid Americans.

[wmw999 2,121]

White men used to run America. Q tells they they still run the "real" America.

Wendy P.

[gowlerk 1,911]

34 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

White men used to run America. Q tells they they still run the "real" America.

Wendy P.

Most of the power is still held by white men as far as I can see. Others have made some inroads, but for now the patriarchy seems largely intact. But at the same time it is clearly beginning to be displaced and make way for change and power sharing through a meritocracy. It's all part of the strange ch ch ch changes that so many see coming and fear.

[Phil1111 910]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

White men used to run America. Q tells they they still run the "real" America.

Wendy P.

In a sense they do. But there are liberal traitors to that hegemony. Who want to betray "real" America. Guys like Soros, Bill Gates, and their enablers like the Dems., HRC, Biden, Pelosi, etc.

They would hand the keys to communists, socialists and allow America to be disarmed. Allow America to become a part of a world order, sold by Soros.

Ron?

[Skwrl 56]

I love how Ron thinks that "maybe this time, they'll finally see the secret sinister Satan worshipping, baby-eating cult that runs the country from pizza parlors without anyone knowing, and agree that we need to root it out and put an end to it, and only Trump can save us..."

I mean, it's like hope springs eternal.  Utterly insane hope, but whatevs.  I wonder at what point the Energizer Bunny runs out of battery, given all the failed predictions.  (Actually, the models predict he'll double down, so I'm waiting with popcorn to see...)

It's like someone was trying to make a scale model of: what happens when your worldview is run by pareidolia? 

Well, here you go!

(By the way, a friend of mine is working on her PhD in psychology, with a specific focus on abnormal psychology.  She was the one who originally turned me on to Q.  It's been a friggin' gold mine for her thesis.  Holy cow, man...  She had to narrow it down to subsets of subsets of delusion within the Q Movement, because it's more than one - or even five - PhD thesis can handle.)

Edited June 19, 2020 by Skwrl

[Phil1111 910]

6 hours ago, Skwrl said:

I love how Ron thinks ..

(By the way, a friend of mine is working on her PhD in psychology, with a specific focus on abnormal psychology.  She was the one who originally turned me on to Q.  It's been a friggin' gold mine for her thesis.  Holy cow, man...  She had to narrow it down to subsets of subsets of delusion within the Q Movement, because it's more than one - or even five - PhD thesis can handle.)

and we have Ron.

[RonD1120 58]

13 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

and we have Ron.

And be thankful just I am for having you. 

I use this forum to gauge the relative strength of our enemies. Don't you do likewise?

[wmw999 2,121]

No. I prefer to think that I have far more allies than enemies; it's just picking what we're allied on. I'll bet you and I have far more in common that different.

Wendy P.

[Phil1111 910]

6 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

And be thankful just I am for having you. 

I use this forum to gauge the relative strength of our enemies. Don't you do likewise?

You're not my enemy and this forum is used to b.s. about politics. To try to understand your point of view misguided as it is.

[wmw999 2,121]

Ron, you've spent the lasl 12 years or more hearing about how the world is divided into camps; friends and enemies, and that it's important to know and understand your enemies. But that world view is designed to divide, rather than unite, the American people. The motto "United we stand, divided we fall" is paraphrased in the Bible in Mark 3:25 ("And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand), as well as in Matthew and Luke.

What is the purpose in dividing the country? It's to gain power, just as most politics are as well. Consider that. These people who you think are your enemies are often also Americans -- just as American as you are. We vote (now we do, but it took legislation and the courts, because it wasn't there originally), we work, we own property, and we are just as deserving of protection by the laws of the country, and just as deserving of the rights of citizenship, as you are.

Power and strength are only diminished by sharing if you have a single-minded zero-sum view of them.

Wendy P.

[RonD1120 58]

2 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Ron, you've spent the lasl 12 years or more hearing about how the world is divided into camps; friends and enemies, and that it's important to know and understand your enemies. But that world view is designed to divide, rather than unite, the American people. The motto "United we stand, divided we fall" is paraphrased in the Bible in Mark 3:25 ("And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand), as well as in Matthew and Luke.

What is the purpose in dividing the country? It's to gain power, just as most politics are as well. Consider that. These people who you think are your enemies are often also Americans -- just as American as you are. We vote (now we do, but it took legislation and the courts, because it wasn't there originally), we work, we own property, and we are just as deserving of protection by the laws of the country, and just as deserving of the rights of citizenship, as you are.

Power and strength are only diminished by sharing if you have a single-minded zero-sum view of them.

Wendy P.

Your post has a tone of fear within its message. I doubt that it is really there as I believe your reside in your own safe enclave.

Have you noticed that many oppositional responders are foreign not American citizens? Have you noticed that many favor globalism for the perceived avenues of personal wealth? Have you noticed the paranoia of the heathen because they know they cannot control a Christian mindset?

In the midst of all this confusion, distrust, contrived violence there is an underground movement, the QAnons. We share intel, insight, strategy, hope, faith and in so doing we gain in number and in power, voting power. We are called domestic terrorists, crazy, low IQ, immature but we cannot be stopped. We are the subject of the liberal supremacist, intellectual elite study, denigration and attack. But, we are recognized by President Trump and he knows he can rely on our support.

We are fighting a cultural war for the survival of the America we love. We will defend our ideals, values and our Constitutional rights.

We have identified our enemy and we will neutralize that influential power by whatever legal means necessary.

WWG1WGA

[wmw999 2,121]

Ron, I fear what I said I feared -- people who seek to divide this country of ours. People who don't accept that the America they remember of the 1950's never existed because of the number of people it excluded, any more than the America of the screaming 60's never existed because of the number of people who were willing to sign up to fight a proxy war in another country. The wealth-driven America of the 1980's didn't exist either -- it was just a small piece. And the rural America of the 1890's was nearly 40% urban.

Ron, America is a big place. I'm glad you have your little enclave, but my main concern is that you want to spread what you believe politically across an America you don't accept.

Trump did not win the popular vote in 2016. The majority of the voters who voted did not support him -- just enough of the more important voters.

Wendy P.

[billvon 2,396]

4 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

We are fighting a cultural war for the survival of the America we love. We will defend our ideals, values and our Constitutional rights.

I am (not) sorry to see you are losing the battle.  From conservative-leaning Forbes magazine:

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Republicans Are Breaking From Trump Like We’ve Never Seen
Forbes

Updated Jun 12, 2020, 10:35am EDT

Much of the Trump presidency has been defined by the president’s uncanny ability to bring the GOP in tow, but in recent weeks—with the nation battling two separate crises and the White House response to the turmoil under scrutiny—members of the party have begun to distance themselves from the president in unprecedented fashion.

1) Few Republicans supported Trump’s highly controversial photo op in front of St. John's Church (which was made possible only after protesters were cleared with tear gas and flash bangs) and several GOP senators “cringed” at Trump’s tweet Tuesday morning suggesting that a 75-year-old protester in Buffalo—who was shoved backward by the police and bled from his head after falling—might be a member of Antifa, Politico reported.

2) Trump’s ability to divide the country by discovering and exploiting wedge issues also appears to have lessened, as some Republican leaders and large swaths of the business community are openly supporting the Black Lives Matter movement, and the White House instead focuses its efforts on the economy, and promoting “law and order,” as the president often tweets.  

3) Hours after President Trump declared that his administration “will not even consider the renaming” of army bases named after Confederate generals, the GOP-led Senate Armed Services Committee privately adopted an amendment Wednesday for the Pentagon to remove the names of Confederate generals from military assets within three years, CNN reported. 

4) Several high-profile Republicans have recently said they will not support the president’s reelection bid, including former President George W. Bush, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), and former Secretary of State Colin Powell, the New York Times reports; Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) told reporters last week she’s “struggling” with whether to vote for the president in November.     

5) The dissent from inside the GOP also comes on the heels of plummeting poll numbers for Trump: Trump’s approval rating has dropped ten points since May and has fallen below the 40% mark, according to the latest Gallup poll, and polling analysts say the president is in deep trouble come November. 

5) He is losing military support. Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mark A. Milley said Thursday he “should not” have been at the church photo op; Defense Secretary Mark Esper said last week he was opposed to sending active-duty soldiers into American cities; and in a statement published in The Atlantic on June 3, former Defense Secretary James Mattis slammed the photo op and added he was “angry and appalled” that he has seen police officers “violate the constitutional rights of their fellow citizens.”

6) In a widely read statement published by The Atlantic, former Defense Secretary Mattis said he was “angry and appalled” that he has seen police officers “violate the constitutional rights of their fellow citizens.” He also excoriated Trump’s photo op in front of St. John’s Church. “We know that we are better than the abuse of executive authority that we witnessed in Lafayette Square. We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution,” he said.