Yet Another Mass Shooting

[Coreece 190]

48 minutes ago, kallend said:

20 hours ago, Coreece said:

Also, it's curious that it always seems to be John and Jerry that are preoccupied with penises when the subject comes up.

I didn't mention "dick" or "penis".  YOU inferred that.  

John Kallend:

"Owning a gun in compensation for penile inadequacy"

 

So no, it was a little bit more than just an inference.  You just weasel word things like that so you can try wiggling your way out when needed - otherwise why not just be a straight up guy and say what you really mean in the fist place?

[brenthutch 383]

2 hours ago, Coreece said:

John Kallend:

"Owning a gun in compensation for penile inadequacy"

 

So no, it was a little bit more than just an inference.  You just weasel word things like that so you can try wiggling your way out when needed - otherwise why not just be a straight up guy and say what you really mean in the fist place?

Weasels use weasel words.

[BIGUN 1,053]

18 hours ago, Coreece said:

in the fist place?

?  : )

Edited March 3, 2020 by BIGUN

[Phil1111 910]

On 2/28/2020 at 1:39 PM, brenthutch said:

The top one can take 20 round magazines, is chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor (way more powerful than 5.56 with triple the effective range) it can empty its 20 rounds in less than a minute. 

 

Sir, you have provided prima facie as to why AR-15's are unnecessary, thanks for that. In addition:

Strict firearm laws reduce gun deaths: here’s the evidence

Gun Control in Australia, Updated  “While 13 gun massacres (the killing of 4 or more people at one time) occurred in Australia in the 18 years before the NFA, resulting in more than one hundred deaths, in the 14 following years (and up to the present), there were no gun massacres.”

"While criminals will always find ways to get their hands on guns, the Firearms (Amendment) (No 2) Act that was brought in 20 years ago has made an undoubted difference to the gun landscape in the UK, just as similar legislation did in Australia."

In the past I've owned Noveske , BCM as well as two cheaper makes of Ar-15's. HK-91's as well as a dozen makes of handguns.

As you yourself suggest shooting can be fun without the need for semi-auto. It can also be done without high capacity or even detachable magazines.

Meanwhile at the NRA corruption reigns Secrecy, Self-Dealing, and Greed at the N.R.A.

On NRATV, .. ideos of the spokesperson Dana Loesch, a former Breitbart News editor who has said that mainstream journalists are “the rat bastards of the earth” and deserve to be “curb-stomped.”

MMM... NRA spokespeople urging violence over the issues of free speech.

"Over menacing images of masked rioters, she asserts that the only way to stop the left is to “fight its violence of lies with the clenched fist of truth.” A lawyer and activist called Colion Noir, whose real name is Collins Idehen, Jr., also has a large following. After the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, in Parkland, Florida, Noir appeared in a video chiding “all the kids from Parkland getting ready to use your First Amendment to attack everyone else’s Second Amendment.” ...

"the N.R.A.’s dire financial state. According to interviews and to documents that I obtained—federal tax forms, charity records, contracts, corporate filings, and internal communications—a small group of N.R.A. executives, contractors, and venders has extracted hundreds of millions of dollars from the nonprofit’s budget, through gratuitous payments, sweetheart deals, and opaque financial arrangements.

" a senior N.R.A. employee describe a workplace distinguished by secrecy, self-dealing, and greed, whose leaders have encouraged disastrous business ventures and questionable partnerships, and have marginalized those who object."...

"At the N.R.A.’s annual meetings, he disparages “élites” who “long to turn America into some European-style socialist state.” Last year, he told the crowd, “We’re standing at the edge of fear, staring into the abyss of the demise of our country and its freedom we care about most.”

" The N.R.A. had spent more than fifty million dollars on the 2016 elections, mostly in support of Donald Trump,"

The lengthy article describes in detail how the NRA has spent over $100 million in the last five years for sweetheart under the table deals with insiders. Including lavish compensation for its president and his wife. Corruption in the NRA, just like Washington and the White House.

Edited March 3, 2020 by Phil1111

[brenthutch 383]

1 minute ago, Phil1111 said:

Sir, you have provided prima facie as to why AR-15's are unnecessary, thanks for that. 

Good, thing it’s called the Bill of Rights and not the Bill of Necessities.  

[Phil1111 910]

23 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Good, thing it’s called the Bill of Rights and not the Bill of Necessities.  

Touché, but of course the "Fifth Amendment and Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution declare that governments cannot deprive any person of "life, liberty" So when do the victims of unrestricted gun rights see their rights to life and liberty addressed by statute or amendments to the constitution?

When they pry the Ar-15 from the cold, dead fingers of ______?

[DJL 232]

3 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Touché, but of course the "Fifth Amendment and Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution declare that governments cannot deprive any person of "life, liberty" So when do the victims of unrestricted gun rights see their rights to life and liberty addressed by statute or amendments to the constitution?

That's the crux of attempts to define the language and intent of the 2nd Amendment, it doesn't matter what they wanted or what they meant because there's no law that is exempt from the interests of public health and safety.

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

2 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Touché, but of course the "Fifth Amendment and Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution declare that governments cannot deprive any person of "life, liberty" So when do the victims of unrestricted gun rights see their rights to life and liberty addressed by statute or amendments to the constitution?

When they pry the Ar-15 from the cold, dead fingers of ______?

In part because the BoR applies to the government. And what it can (and cannot) do.

For example, the government cannot restrict speech.

But an employer can. Or a private entity like this site. Certain types of speech are pretty strictly regulated. In a manner that would clearly violate the 1st A if it applied here (a couple mods made that statement more than once).

 

It can be illegal for individuals to violate the rights of other individuals. 

And those individuals can be punished for violating those rights. 

But to pretend that an entire group of people (gun owners) is collectively  violating the rights of people, when it's really a tiny fraction of them would be wrong.
To punish them, to take away their rights, to take away their property (that has never been used to violate anyone's rights) would be wrong. 

[kallend 1,623]

23 hours ago, Coreece said:

John Kallend:

"Owning a gun in compensation for penile inadequacy"

 

So no, it was a little bit more than just an inference.  You just weasel word things like that so you can try wiggling your way out when needed - otherwise why not just be a straight up guy and say what you really mean in the fist place?

Citation?

 

Edited March 3, 2020 by kallend

[Coreece 190]

44 minutes ago, kallend said:

23 hours ago, Coreece said:

John Kallend:

"Owning a gun in compensation for penile inadequacy"

 

So no, it was a little bit more than just an inference.  You just weasel word things like that so you can try wiggling your way out when needed - otherwise why not just be a straight up guy and say what you really mean in the fist place?

Citation?

https://www.dropzone.com/forums/topic/266065-stupid-firearm-accident-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4866020

[kallend 1,623]

28 minutes ago, Coreece said:

https://www.dropzone.com/forums/topic/266065-stupid-firearm-accident-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4866020

That was citing an article by a psychologist, and hardly constitutes "ALWAYS" as you claimed.  Maybe you should look up "always" in a dictionary.

[Coreece 190]

2 minutes ago, kallend said:

31 minutes ago, Coreece said:

https://www.dropzone.com/forums/topic/266065-stupid-firearm-accident-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4866020

That was citing an article by a psychologist

Lol, still trying to wiggle out, eh John?  The part I quoted was not from the article.  Those were YOUR words.

And that article is really about the association of the penis to weapons, and therefore applies more to you than it does Brent or any other gun owner.

[JerryBaumchen 1,047]

1 minute ago, Coreece said:

therefore applies more to you than it does Brent or any other gun owner.

Hi Coreece,

If this is a fact. how is it you know this?  

Jerry Baumchen

[Coreece 190]

8 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

11 minutes ago, Coreece said:

And that article is really about the association of the penis to weapons, and therefore applies more to you than it does Brent or any other gun owner.

Hi Coreece,

If this is a fact. how is it you know this?  

Because it is both you and John that typically are the ones talking about penises when we're talking about guns.

You referred to gun owners as having a "dick stretcher delusion"

Edited March 3, 2020 by Coreece

[brenthutch 383]

5 hours ago, kallend said:

That was citing an article by a psychologist, and hardly constitutes "ALWAYS" as you claimed.  Maybe you should look up "always" in a dictionary.

For goodness sake man, just sack up and own it!

Edited March 4, 2020 by brenthutch

[JoeWeber 2,298]

52 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

For goodness sake man, just sack up and own it!

Thanks Brent, I snorted my last swig of Pinot reading that. 

[Phil1111 910]

2 hours ago, kallend said:

That was citing an article by a psychologist, and ...

Why Are White Men Stockpiling Guns? Scientific American 2018

-"it's largely because they're anxious about their ability to protect their families, insecure about their place in the job market and beset by racial fears ...

- men who are anxious about their ability to protect their families, insecure about their place in the job market, and beset by racial fears. They tend to be less educated. For the most part, they don’t appear to be religious—and, suggests one study, faith seems to reduce their attachment to guns. In fact, stockpiling guns seems to be a symptom of a much deeper crisis in meaning and purpose in their lives. ...

- discovered another motivation: racial anxiety. “A lot of people talked about how important Obama was to get a concealed-carry license: ‘He’s for free health care, he’s for welfare.’ They were asking, ‘Whatever happened to hard work?’” Obama’s presidency, they feared, would empower minorities to threaten their property and families. ...

-The insight Stroud gained from her interviews is backed up by many, many studies. A 2013 paper by a team of United Kingdom researchers found that a one-point jump in the scale they used to measure racism increased the odds of owning a gun by 50 percent. A 2016 study from the University of Illinois at Chicago found that racial resentment among whites fueled opposition to gun control. This drives political affiliations: A 2017 study in the Social Studies Quarterly found that gun owners had become 50 percent more likely to vote Republican since 1972—and that gun culture had become strongly associated with explicit racism."

and " “Guns, therefore, provide a way to regain their masculinity, which they perceive has been eroded by increasing economic impotency.”

I'll stop now as I recognize that such fact and research is highly inflammatory to high ego Caucasian males of certain demographics. As the aforementioned article suggests.

Scientific American (informally abbreviated SciAm or sometimes SA) is an American popular science magazine. Many famous scientists, including Albert Einstein, have contributed articles to it. It is the oldest continuously published monthly magazine in the United States (though it only became monthly in 1921).

Edited March 3, 2020 by Phil1111

[turtlespeed 212]

22 hours ago, BIGUN said:

?  : )

Hmmm - Where -exactly- does the fist go?

[turtlespeed 212]

16 hours ago, kallend said:

16 hours ago, Coreece said:

https://www.dropzone.com/forums/topic/266065-stupid-firearm-accident-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4866020

That was citing an article by a psychologist, and hardly constitutes "ALWAYS" as you claimed.  Maybe you should look up "always" in a dictionary.

Yeah - 

You did the about the same thing with South Chicago a while back.

I'll ask again: What specific anatomical deficiency were you referring to? 

 

 

[BIGUN 1,053]

17 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

THEM ABOUT MY GUNS: 

 

"it's largely because they're anxious about their ability to protect their families, insecure about their place in the job market and beset by racial fears ...

- men who are anxious about their ability to protect their families, insecure about their place in the job market, and beset by racial fears. They tend to be less educated. For the most part, they don’t appear to be religious—and, suggests one study, faith seems to reduce their attachment to guns. In fact, stockpiling guns seems to be a symptom of a much deeper crisis in meaning and purpose in their lives. ...

- discovered another motivation: racial anxiety. “A lot of people talked about how important Obama was to get a concealed-carry license: ‘He’s for free health care, he’s for welfare.’ They were asking, ‘Whatever happened to hard work?’” Obama’s presidency, they feared, would empower minorities to threaten their property and families. ...

-The insight Stroud gained from her interviews is backed up by many, many studies. A 2013 paper by a team of United Kingdom researchers found that a one-point jump in the scale they used to measure racism increased the odds of owning a gun by 50 percent. A 2016 study from the University of Illinois at Chicago found that racial resentment among whites fueled opposition to gun control. This drives political affiliations: A 2017 study in the Social Studies Quarterly found that gun owners had become 50 percent more likely to vote Republican since 1972—and that gun culture had become strongly associated with explicit racism."

ME ABOUT MY GUNS:

I like to shoot shit. 

 

IT'S KINDA LIKE: 

Her Diary:

Tonight, I thought my husband was acting weird. We had made plans to meet at a nice restaurant for dinner. I was shopping with my friends all day long, so I thought he was upset at the fact that I was a bit late, but he made no comment on it. Conversation wasn't flowing, so I suggested that we go somewhere quiet so we could talk. He agreed, but he didn't say much. I asked him what was wrong; He said, 'Nothing.' I asked him if it was my fault that he was upset. He said he wasn't upset, that it had nothing to do with me, and not to worry about it. On the way home, I told him that I loved him. He smiled slightly, and kept driving. I can't explain his behavior I don't know why he didn't say, 'I love you, too.' When we got home, I felt as if I had lost him completely, as if he wanted nothing to do with me anymore. He just sat there quietly, and watched TV. He continued to seem distant and absent. Finally, with silence all around us, I decided to go to bed. About 15 minutes later, he came to bed. But I still felt that he was distracted, and his thoughts were somewhere else. He fell asleep - I cried. I don't know what to do. I'm almost sure that his thoughts are with someone else. My life is a disaster.

His Diary:

Harley won’t start…can't figure out why.

[Phil1111 910]

3 hours ago, BIGUN said:

ME ABOUT MY GUNS:

I like to shoot shit. ...

IT'S KINDA LIKE: 

 

So do I, currently I have slightly over 35,000 empty brass ready to go in my XL-650. I have a full IPSC plate rack plus another 1/2 dozen steel targets ready to punish this summer.

[kallend 1,623]

15 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Yeah - 

You did the about the same thing with South Chicago a while back.

I'll ask again: What specific anatomical deficiency were you referring to? 

 

 

In your case it seems to be the pre-frontal cortex.

[turtlespeed 212]

10 hours ago, kallend said:

In your case it seems to be the pre-frontal cortex.

What about the case I was referring to?

[DJL 232]

How the Founding Fathers intended "Paper Airplanes" to be performed.:

 

[turtlespeed 212]

On 3/5/2020 at 7:43 AM, turtlespeed said:

What about the case I was referring to?

Still waiting to find out what you meant.