Bigfalls 110 #51 October 28, 2019 There is a chance that the House could get enough votes to impeach Trump but less likely the Senate will vote to remove him. It is very likely that he will be the Republican nominee. Even if he was removed from office, would that stop him from running for president again? So let's assume he will run and gets enough votes in the right states / districts to win enough Electors. In the past, the Electoral College has followed the popular vote in their states / districts. After experiencing President Trump in action, will any of them break from tradition and vote differently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,381 #52 October 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bigfalls said: There is a chance that the House could get enough votes to impeach Trump but less likely the Senate will vote to remove him. It is very likely that he will be the Republican nominee. Even if he was removed from office, would that stop him from running for president again? So let's assume he will run and gets enough votes in the right states / districts to win enough Electors. In the past, the Electoral College has followed the popular vote in their states / districts. After experiencing President Trump in action, will any of them break from tradition and vote differently. Article 1, Section 3, Paragraph 7: Judgment in Cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigfalls 110 #53 October 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, ryoder said: Article 1, Section 3, Paragraph 7: Judgment in Cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law. Thanks for posting, I didn't know that. 24 minutes ago, ryoder said: There is a chance that the House could get enough votes to impeach Trump but less likely the Senate will vote to remove him. It is very likely that he will be the Republican nominee. Even if he was removed from office, would that stop him from running for president again? So let's assume he will run and gets enough votes in the right states / districts to win enough Electors. In the past, the Electoral College has followed the popular vote in their states / districts. After experiencing President Trump in action, will any of them break from tradition and vote differently. The question still remains, if he wins, will Electors break from tradition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #54 October 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, Bigfalls said: The question still remains, if he wins, will Electors break from tradition. That's what was supposed to happen last time, the EC exists (in part) to stop someone like Trump getting it through if the voters mess it up. They didn't then, so they wouldn't this time either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,381 #55 October 28, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, mistercwood said: That's what was supposed to happen last time, the EC exists (in part) to stop someone like Trump getting it through if the voters mess it up. They didn't then, so they wouldn't this time either. That was not the purpose of the EC. https://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/ In fact, many states make it illegal to be a faithless elector: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector Edited October 28, 2019 by ryoder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 78 #56 October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Bigfalls said: There is a chance that the House could get enough votes to impeach Trump but less likely the Senate will vote to remove him. It is very likely that he will be the Republican nominee. Even if he was removed from office, would that stop him from running for president again? So let's assume he will run and gets enough votes in the right states / districts to win enough Electors. In the past, the Electoral College has followed the popular vote in their states / districts. After experiencing President Trump in action, will any of them break from tradition and vote differently. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/26/us/trump-senate-presidency.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,621 #57 October 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, ryoder said: That was not the purpose of the EC. https://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/ In fact, many states make it illegal to be a faithless elector: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector Federalist #68 suggests that it was indeed the reason. Not that Federalist 68 is necessarily the whole truth and nothing bu the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #58 October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, billvon said: You didn't get it. Nope - missed that one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,621 #59 March 6, 2020 (edited) Barr vs. Truth William Barr, the attorney general, has a problem with telling the truth. A federal judge — Reggie B. Walton, who was appointed by President George W. Bush — yesterday excoriated Barr for releasing an initial summary of Robert Mueller’s report that seemed designed to mislead the public about the report’s content. The judge’s ruling described Barr’s “lack of candor” in releasing “distorted” and “misleading” information full of “inconsistencies.” The judge’s ruling was remarkable for its harshness. “It is highly unusual for a federal judge to publicly question the honesty of the attorney general,” Spencer S. Hsu and Devlin Barrett of The Washington Post write. ... Edited March 6, 2020 by kallend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
