JoeWeber 486 #126 October 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, ryoder said: I'm guessing you have never seen or heard Kallend (or his car). And you'd be right. Wanna know how I imagine you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 211 #127 October 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, ryoder said: I'm guessing you have never seen or heard Kallend (or his car). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 231 #128 October 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: And you'd be right. Wanna know how I imagine you? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yobnoc 132 #129 October 23, 2019 14 hours ago, normiss said: Shame it hasn't been since earth was created wayyyyyyy back before this jebus howward christ nonsense started. Like millions of years ago. Try Billions. With a "B." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 443 #130 October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, ryoder said: FIFY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 231 #131 October 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, kallend said: And now I have Chitty Chitty Bang Bang stuck in my head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 393 #132 October 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, DJL said: And now I have Chitty Chitty Bang Bang stuck in my head. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was a Bentley. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 3 #133 October 23, 2019 51 minutes ago, kallend said: huh... I kinda figured you'd be an MGA kinda guy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 557 #134 October 23, 2019 Trump's lawyer, William Consovoy, just stated flat out that Trump could murder someone and be 100% protected from prosecution while he was president. So there's that. Oh, and the Constitution is phony. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 22 #135 October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was a Bentley. Incorrect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbohu 60 #136 October 23, 2019 17 hours ago, Coreece said: The link outlines the nearly 2000 years of persecution that Jakee was questioning, including the christian on christian wars/persecution. And yes, they are bigoted dickheads too. I mean, I just said that several posts ago in my reply to joe, and then Jakee came in and called them bigoted violent christians. Did you have something to add to that, or what? Yes. What I would add, is that there is just nothing special about Christians in terms of persecution, when you look at the entire 2000 year timeframe. They haven't been more persecuted than pretty much any other group that you could pick out. The "Christian Persecution" concept seems to be more something that (some segment of) Christians have very much made part of their identity--and you can even see in the article that you linked, that this portion was likely written by someone who subscribed to that identity (using the term "martyrdom", which is really not widely used outside of that community (and other religious ones) and not really a word that describes something objectively) Historically, I believe, this identity was taken on very early own in the history of Christianity, when it was actually true: Like, many other new movements, they were very much underground in the beginning and WERE actually persecuted by the more established religious sects. So, this became part of their identity, but objectively speaking, once the Roman Empire converted to Christianity as their state religion, the Christians definitely became as much of the persecutors as they were previously persecuted, and persecutions of Christians by non-Christians really were limited only to certain local areas, where they were in the clear minority--and that seems in no way different to any other sect, be they Shiites, Sunnis, Hindus, or pretty much any other group. --PS: That whole point may also already have been pointed out, and I may not have added anything new here--I think it wouldn't be fair to ask occasional contributors to read through every single thread on this Forum--but since you argued that Christians were persecuted for 2000 years and put it in a way that seemed to make it something special about Christians, it seems that, even if someone already pointed that out previously, you haven't really taken that in. PPS: I'm also struck about how you usually are quite oriented towards facts and seem to have a distaste for emotional arguments--but not so much when it is about Christian religion. Seems to go a little more to the gut for you?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 393 #137 October 24, 2019 5 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was a Bentley. 1 hour ago, Stumpy said: Incorrect. Oops. You're right. A bit of searching found that the original race car was really called "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" because the motor made that sound (motor was a Zepplin engine). I always thought it was a Bentley Speed Six. Thanks for the correction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 22 #138 October 24, 2019 7 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: Oops. You're right. A bit of searching found that the original race car was really called "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" because the motor made that sound (motor was a Zepplin engine). I always thought it was a Bentley Speed Six. Thanks for the correction. When you have a five year old son who loves listening to the audiobook of it in the car it gets imprinted in your brain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites