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jakebaustin

Softest opening canopy

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Check out the “Firebolt” from Parachute Laboratories Inc. in DeLand Florida.

I have a Firebolt 164. The Firebolt is the best all around canopy I’ve ever jumped since the Cruiselite by Para Flite. It’s designed for soft on heading openings and easy landings.

You won’t have any problems with a Firebolt of any size.

http://plabsinc.com/

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11 hours ago, jakebaustin said:

I have a spectre w/dacron that slams me

Are you sure there isn't something else going wrong? I've had my Spectre for close to 200 jumps and my last jump was the first hard opening I ever had on it (and I'm pretty sure I know what went wrong, as I had to pack real quickly between 2 night jumps, wearing my jump suit with tons of lights taped to it, and even while packing I thought: "this doesn't feel right") On all other jumps the openings were super soft and always completely straight and controlled.

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Everybody I know (myself included) who jumps Safires (I'm assuming you've got a Safire 2 or 3 - can't say much about the old Safire 1s) is consistently impressed with how slow and soft the openings are. I've had openings so soft (if the packer pulled the slider too far in front of the nose, or pushed the nose in a bit) that I've been briefly worried I was dealing with a streamer. If you're 100% confident in your packing and body position on deployment (and I don't mean "yeah of course it's fine," I mean, have you gone over your packing with a rigger since you started having hard openings? Have you had an instructor film a deployment or three?), have your rigger check the canopy and the line trim.

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On 9/6/2019 at 2:35 AM, drdm said:

Everybody I know (myself included) who jumps Safires (I'm assuming you've got a Safire 2 or 3 - can't say much about the old Safire 1s) is consistently impressed with how slow and soft the openings are. I've had openings so soft (if the packer pulled the slider too far in front of the nose, or pushed the nose in a bit) that I've been briefly worried I was dealing with a streamer. If you're 100% confident in your packing and body position on deployment (and I don't mean "yeah of course it's fine," I mean, have you gone over your packing with a rigger since you started having hard openings? Have you had an instructor film a deployment or three?), have your rigger check the canopy and the line trim.

I rented a Safire 2 at Skydive Hibaldstow last summer as I didn't have my own gear, and the first jump on it I had my hands on the handles because I was sure it was a streamer - it was so slow opening - but really nice when it did open and my heart rate went back down - great canopy.

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On 9/5/2019 at 11:35 PM, drdm said:

Everybody I know (myself included) who jumps Safires (I'm assuming you've got a Safire 2 or 3 - can't say much about the old Safire 1s) is consistently impressed with how slow and soft the openings are.

I jump a Safire 1 and all but one of my openings have been super soft and generally on-heading. I love it. I am loaded fairly light (about 1.12-1.15), but that shouldn’t really affect it.

So, not sure what is going on with the OP’s canopy, but in my experience the Safire doesn’t slam people.

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On 9/5/2019 at 6:57 PM, jakebaustin said:

what are the softest opening canopies out there? I have a spectre w/dacron that slams me and a safire that opens even harder than the spectre. looking for something that I can trust wont break my neck. 

i have a safire 2, the slowest openings come from stuffing it into the bag in a horrible mess, then it billows out, so slow.

if i pack it neat it comes out quicker but i would never say hard.

you've got sliders on these canopies right?

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21 hours ago, countzero said:

How many jumps are on the current line sets of the canopies you're jumping? Might want to have a rigger check the line trim.

Boom. May also be an issue with packing if it is happening on two different canopies. 

Husband and I both jump Spectres with Dacron.  He's put over 1000 on one, I've got a couple hundred.  No hard openings, ever.  

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49 minutes ago, skybytch said:

Boom. May also be an issue with packing if it is happening on two different canopies. 

Husband and I both jump Spectres with Dacron.  He's put over 1000 on one, I've got a couple hundred.  No hard openings, ever.  

Quite right!

Dacron just works well, and not just because it is able to absorb some of the shock:

https://www.dropzone.com/forums/topic/266092-dacron-lines-are-good-not-just-because-they-absorb-more-shock/?do=findComment&comment=4861211

 

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On 9/13/2019 at 12:13 AM, skybytch said:

<snip>May also be an issue with packing if it is happening on two different canopies. <snip>

 

This seems the most likely cause to me. I would ask a suitable experienced person watch you pack.

The first thing I thought was that the slider may not be all the way up against the slider stops, or that it may be incorrectly 'flaked' (translation issue here). The slider must be all the way up and packed to catch as much air as possible in order to work most efficiently. I'm sure native English speakers on here can explain more properly waht I mean, but it is best if someone shows you in person how to pack the slider.

If you're sure that you do these things correctly, it may be that the slider shifts when you put the canopy in the bag.

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On 9/11/2019 at 8:22 AM, davenuk said:

i have a safire 2, the slowest openings come from stuffing it into the bag in a horrible mess, then it billows out, so slow.

if i pack it neat it comes out quicker but i would never say hard.

you've got sliders on these canopies right?

something a little more helpful - 

i tried this sleeping bag roll method a few times and it makes my safire 2 come out sooooo slow.

 

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On 9/16/2019 at 11:32 AM, Baksteen said:

This seems the most likely cause to me. I would ask a suitable experienced person watch you pack.

The first thing I thought was that the slider may not be all the way up against the slider stops, or that it may be incorrectly 'flaked' (translation issue here). The slider must be all the way up and packed to catch as much air as possible in order to work most efficiently. I'm sure native English speakers on here can explain more properly waht I mean, but it is best if someone shows you in person how to pack the slider.

If you're sure that you do these things correctly, it may be that the slider shifts when you put the canopy in the bag.

In the UK we refer to flaking the tail, but describe what we do to the slider as ‘quartering’ :-)

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