kallend 1,611 #276 September 13, 2019 3 hours ago, brenthutch said: Uh, World War Two started in 1939 NOT 1941 and the Zimmerman telegram was sent in 1917, three years AFTER the beginning of World War One. As I said "stay in your lane" BTW thank you for the complement Nice backpedal (well, not really, a rather lame attempt actually). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #277 September 14, 2019 7 hours ago, kallend said: Nice backpedal (well, not really, a rather lame attempt actually). I appreciate that. I know that when you and BillV accuse me of backpedaling, it is tantamount to you knocking over your king. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,241 #278 September 14, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, brenthutch said: I appreciate that. I know that when you and BillV accuse me of backpedaling, it is tantamount to you knocking over your king. I'm sorry, you've intentionally misundestood the post so you can falsely accuse him of not knowing when WW1/2 started and you're calling that checkmate? What is wrong with you? Edited September 14, 2019 by jakee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #279 September 14, 2019 Kallend implied capitalism was, at least tangentially, responsible for WW2, as if capitalism played some nefarious role in the conflict. If it weren't for American capitalism, he would be speaking German right now. Soveign wealth, however acquired can be used for good or evil. (the nazis were socialists by the way) I get where he is coming from, especially in light of the OP, he thinks; money and guns are inherently evil and they must be strictly controlled by the government and confiscated if need be. He is just wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 615 #280 September 14, 2019 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: Kallend implied capitalism was, at least tangentially, responsible for WW2, as if capitalism played some nefarious role in the conflict. If it weren't for American capitalism, he would be speaking German right now. Soveign wealth, however acquired can be used for good or evil. (the nazis were socialists by the way) I get where he is coming from, especially in light of the OP, he thinks; money and guns are inherently evil and they must be strictly controlled by the government and confiscated if need be. He is just wrong. No, he clearly did not. YOU are the one in the wrong. Again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,241 #281 September 14, 2019 5 hours ago, brenthutch said: Kallend implied capitalism was, at least tangentially, responsible for WW2, as if capitalism played some nefarious role in the conflict. If it weren't for American capitalism, he would be speaking German right now. First, those two things are separate, and most definitely not mutually exclusive. Second, that has nothing to do with you acting like a twat by falsely claiming Kallend doesn’t know when WW2 started and therefore you win at chess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #282 September 14, 2019 6 hours ago, normiss said: No, he clearly did not. YOU are the one in the wrong. Again. "WW2 - a conflict fueled by capitalism" were his exact words. Who is wrong now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman 61 #283 September 14, 2019 11 hours ago, brenthutch said: (the nazis were socialists by the way) Complete and utter bollocks. See below: https://www.indy100.com/article/nazi-socialist-right-wing-white-supremacists-history-twitter-mikestuchbery-7900001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #284 September 14, 2019 (edited) The Nazis were left-wing socialists. Yes, the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany, otherwise known as the Nazi Party, was indeed socialist and it had a lot in common with the modern left. Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist “exploitation” by capitalists , particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their programs called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics. Yet a popular myth persists that the Nazis themselves were right-wing extremists. This insidious lie biases the entire political landscape today. Edited September 14, 2019 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #285 September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: The Nazis were left-wing socialists. Yes, the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany, otherwise known as the Nazi Party, was indeed socialist and it had a lot in common with the modern left. Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist “exploitation” by capitalists , particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their programs called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics. Yet a popular myth persists that the Nazis themselves were right-wing extremists. This insidious lie biases the entire political landscape today. Oh I genuinely thought you were trolling on the other post and chuckled when I saw someone take the bait. And now you double-down on what is easily your dumbest take in months...jfc. I reeeeeally hope this is just a clumsy attempt to maintain the troll, otherwise... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #286 September 15, 2019 (edited) Only half joking. I really don't buy into the far left and the far right as being diametrically opposed. Lets look at what they have in common. One party system (anti democratic) The collective is more important than the individual Promote revolutionary change Planned economy Use of violence, propaganda, secret police and the indoctrination of the youth. Control of religion Responsible for genocide, war, concentration camps and death on a massive scale Any sober analysis would conclude they have more in common then we are lead to believe Edited September 15, 2019 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 615 #287 September 15, 2019 6 hours ago, brenthutch said: "WW2 - a conflict fueled by capitalism" were his exact words. Who is wrong now? Pay close attention to the "fueled by" part of that. You. You're still wrong. Again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #288 September 15, 2019 8 hours ago, normiss said: Pay close attention to the "fueled by" part of that. You. You're still wrong. Again. His comment that WW2 was "fueled by capitalism" was no more inciteful than had he said "WW2, a conflict fueled by bread, potatoes and Spam" Why did he bring up capitalism? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,241 #289 September 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: His comment that WW2 was "fueled by capitalism" was no more inciteful than had he said "WW2, a conflict fueled by bread, potatoes and Spam" I don’t think Spam has ever incited anything, apart from a Monty Python earworm. ”Why did he bring up capitalism?“ He didn’t. Capitalism had been under discussion for for several pages already. Maybe your question should be ‘why did he bring up WW2’ except the body of the post makes it plainly obvious. So how about you drop the transparent shit stirring now? Edited September 15, 2019 by jakee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,265 #290 September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: His comment that WW2 was "fueled by capitalism" was no more inciteful than had he said "WW2, a conflict fueled by bread, potatoes and Spam" Why did he bring up capitalism? Indeed, it was inciteful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #291 September 15, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, jakee said: I don’t think Spam has ever incited anything, apart from a Monty Python earworm. Nikita Khrushchev said that without Spam, the Soviet Union would have been unable to feed its army. It would seem, at least far as the Soviets were concerned, Spam fueled WW2 more than capitalism. We all know that an army marches on its stomach, so that is where bread comes in. As far as potatoes go, they were fermented and distilled to make ethanal for fuel for the V-2 missile. Yes it is obvious that WW2 was fueled by bread, potatoes and Spam at least (and perhaps more) than it was by capitalism. Edited September 15, 2019 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #292 September 15, 2019 Ten tandems today so don't expect me to engage further on this topic today, time for beer and ibuprofen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,241 #293 September 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Ten tandems today so don't expect me to engage further on this topic today, time for beer and ibuprofen. I would never have described what you are currently doing as 'engaging'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,265 #294 September 15, 2019 29 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Ten tandems today so don't expect me to engage further on this topic today, time for beer and ibuprofen. No worries, we're just happy to get you on your slow days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 189 #295 November 19, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 11:05 PM, normiss said: On 8/1/2019 at 9:21 PM, Coreece said: I can make do with shallots. Slightly more bitter to me. Ya, but beggars can't be choosers. I've really noticed the bitterness when I over-cooked them once, much like garlic when it's even slightly burned. Anyway, I'm only coming back here as a last resort to see if you or anyone else has ideas for a restaurant-style Chinese stir-fry sauce - beef/broccoli/peppers/whatever, probably some garlic - not too gingery or sweet. (I'm not against using ginger/sweeter ingredients as long as it's not too sweet and overwhelming if you know what I mean) I've tried everything but just can't seem to find the right mix - either too sweet or bitter. I just can't seem to figure out the chinese-american secret to their cuisine. Apparently it's well guarded against the inevitably destructive nature of excessively greedy American capitalism. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, however please note that any recipe calling for over 1Tbsp of soy sauce will be physically printed up and burned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #296 November 20, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 11:08 AM, brenthutch said: BINGO! So, let's say that it was legal to sell a drug in some states but not others, legal to use it in some method in some states but not others and illegal to abuse it in all. Do you you think there would be an effective way for one state to do anything about breaking the laws regarding abuse of that substance? You can't do much about point of use on a state level if you're not doing anything about point of sale on a national level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timski 80 #297 November 20, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 2:39 PM, Coreece said: Ya, but beggars can't be choosers. I've really noticed the bitterness when I over-cooked them once, much like garlic when it's even slightly burned. Anyway, I'm only coming back here as a last resort to see if you or anyone else has ideas for a restaurant-style Chinese stir-fry sauce - beef/broccoli/peppers/whatever, probably some garlic - not too gingery or sweet. (I'm not against using ginger/sweeter ingredients as long as it's not too sweet and overwhelming if you know what I mean) I've tried everything but just can't seem to find the right mix - either too sweet or bitter. I just can't seem to figure out the chinese-american secret to their cuisine. Apparently it's well guarded against the inevitably destructive nature of excessively greedy American capitalism. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, however please note that any recipe calling for over 1Tbsp of soy sauce will be physically printed up and burned. cut thru the BS with some https://www.amazon.com/Gochujang-Korean-Chili-Sauce-7-5Oz/dp/B00OQGC20U/ref=asc_df_B00OQGC20U/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312193075834&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7988114419382336244&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008020&hvtargid=pla-569021466949&psc=1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #298 December 2, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 3:51 AM, nigel99 said: You really think have armed civilians in Hong Kong would result in anything other than a total bloodbath? i would be willing to bet that if the civilians started fighting back the big guns would come out. I really think that is the most naive fantasy land example. How well did it go for all the good old people in Waco Texas? They had the second amendment and used it... You are siding with David Coresh? The child molester? THAT is your argument? The second Amendment was not "used" correctly, (using your word) Really? That's your argument? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites