RonD1120 58 #1 Posted May 26, 2019 "Because we fail to differentiate principle from expediency, the average person lacks the discernment to understand the difference between patriotism and true Patriotism, between americanism and Americanism, between god and God, between freedom and Freedom, between liberty and Liberty. Thus, “americanism” is used as a justification by white supremacy groups (calibrated at 150) and lynch mobs, just as warmongering throughout history has been conducted in the name of “God.” The misinterpretation of liberty as license tells us that many people do not know the difference between freedom as license and true Freedom as principle. Learning the difference between principles and their imitators requires experience and educated judgment. The exercise of such discretion is necessary for moral survival in the modern world in general, but is imperative in those gray areas, where ethical ambiguity has been elevated from convention to an art form: the political arena and the marketplace of daily commerce." Power vs Force; David R. Hawkins, MD; PhD Over the years I have come to the conclusion that SC posters struggle with understanding this concept. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,241 #2 May 26, 2019 2 hours ago, RonD1120 said: "Because we fail to differentiate principle from partisanship... That's you. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yobnoc 142 #3 May 26, 2019 53 minutes ago, jakee said: That's you. BAHAHAHAHAHA Nailed it! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #4 May 26, 2019 3 hours ago, RonD1120 said: "Because we fail to differentiate principle from expediency, the average person lacks the discernment to understand the difference between patriotism and true Patriotism, between americanism and Americanism, between god and God, between freedom and Freedom, between liberty and Liberty. Thus, “americanism” is used as a justification by white supremacy groups (calibrated at 150) and lynch mobs, just as warmongering throughout history has been conducted in the name of “God.” The misinterpretation of liberty as license tells us that many people do not know the difference between freedom as license and true Freedom as principle. Learning the difference between principles and their imitators requires experience and educated judgment. The exercise of such discretion is necessary for moral survival in the modern world in general, but is imperative in those gray areas, where ethical ambiguity has been elevated from convention to an art form: the political arena and the marketplace of daily commerce." Power vs Force; David R. Hawkins, MD; PhD Over the years I have come to the conclusion that SC posters struggle with understanding this concept. Which concept - that capitalization is fundamental? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #5 May 26, 2019 1 hour ago, jakee said: That's you. Wow. now THAT is textbook irony. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,241 #6 May 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Wow. now THAT is textbook irony. Yes, Ron's post is textbook irony. So if you know what the word means, I guess you are just too proud to admit it applies in the other thread too. You should spend some time thinking about why that is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #7 May 26, 2019 33 minutes ago, jakee said: You should spend some time thinking about why that is. That is an exercise the student should complete on his own time, not mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,241 #8 May 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: That is an exercise the student should complete on his own time, not mine. if you're not prepared to do any studying, you're never going to learn. Shame really, you could be better than this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,329 #9 May 26, 2019 Ron - You do realize that 'freedom' and 'liberty' and 'patriotism' apply to people who think, look, and believe differently than you, right? And, given that you support Trump, I think you may have difficulty in understanding these concepts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #10 May 27, 2019 9 hours ago, jakee said: if you're not prepared to do any studying, you're never going to learn. Shame really, you could be better than this. You are right. I wouldn't want to make the same mistakes you did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,611 #11 May 27, 2019 3 hours ago, turtlespeed said: You are right. I wouldn't want to make the same mistakes you did. Ignorance is NOT a virtue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #12 May 27, 2019 2 hours ago, kallend said: Ignorance is NOT a virtue. Not always true - I can think of several cases where ignorance is the best thing in the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,889 #13 May 27, 2019 You have found another new prophet! Congratulations, it must be very fulfilling for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #14 May 28, 2019 8 hours ago, gowlerk said: You have found another new prophet! Congratulations, it must be very fulfilling for you. Wrong again. (About the prophet) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #15 May 28, 2019 16 hours ago, gowlerk said: You have found another new prophet! Congratulations, it must be very fulfilling for you. "Indeed, one of the main problems of genius is how to transform that which is perceived in one’s private understanding into a visible expression that is comprehensible to others. The revelation itself is usually complete and self-explanatory to the person who receives it, but to make it so to others may take a lifetime.3" ~Dr. Hawkins, Ibid. It has become apparent that this forum is a difficult medium to share revelation knowledge. Most believe that for every this there is that, linear thinking within the box. I prefer to call it the sphere of consciousness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,241 #16 May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said: "Indeed, one of the main problems of genius is how to transform that which is perceived in one’s private understanding into a visible expression that is comprehensible to others. The revelation itself is usually complete and self-explanatory to the person who receives it, but to make it so to others may take a lifetime.3" ~Dr. Hawkins, Ibid. It has become apparent that this forum is a difficult medium to share revelation knowledge. Most believe that for every this there is that, linear thinking within the box. I prefer to call it the sphere of consciousness. Funny, it’s so complete and self explanatory to everyone else that you believe all this crap because it strokes your own ego to think you’re the only one capable of understanding it, but it would take more than a lifetime to get you to see that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,889 #17 May 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said: It has become apparent that this forum is a difficult medium to share revelation knowledge. Most believe that for every this there is that, linear thinking within the box. I prefer to call it the sphere of consciousness. "sphere of consciousness" AKA hocus pocus. I used to find that LSD brought everything into a large degree of clear focus. Edited May 28, 2019 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,329 #18 May 28, 2019 2 hours ago, RonD1120 said: "Indeed, one of the main problems of genius is how to transform that which is perceived in one’s private understanding into a visible expression that is comprehensible to others. The revelation itself is usually complete and self-explanatory to the person who receives it, but to make it so to others may take a lifetime.3" ~Dr. Hawkins, Ibid. It has become apparent that this forum is a difficult medium to share revelation knowledge. Most believe that for every this there is that, linear thinking within the box. I prefer to call it the sphere of consciousness. It has also proven a difficult medium to share "9/11 Truther" 'knowledge'. Rhys took a lot of time and went to a lot of trouble trying to convince everyone of that garbage. He failed because his "proof" was bullshit. Plain & simple. Not genius. He tried to convince people how smart he was, and how he knew things everyone else didn't. In the case of 'Revelation knowledge', it's pretty much the same. You've made prediction after prediction of the 'Coming End Times', or "The Shit's Going To Hit The Fan... And SOON!!!". And it hasn't. As was pointed out in the other thread, these predictions have been made for something like 2000 years. Give me ONE good reason to think your current ones are any more 'real'. Your QAnon (or Q or Q+) crap is no different. Lots of predictions, ZERO results. I'm certainly willing to 'think outside the box', but I also will analyze claims in a thoughtful and meaningful manner and try very hard not to fall for blatant bullshit. Like "The Boy Who Cried SHTF." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,089 #19 May 28, 2019 When everyone else is incapable of understanding, it might not be them. Wendy P. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,329 #20 May 28, 2019 3 hours ago, wmw999 said: When everyone else is incapable of understanding, it might not be them. Wendy P. Kinda like how you get along with your neighbors. If you don't get along with one or two, it might be them. If you don't get along with any of them, it is most likely you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,356 #21 May 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: Kinda like how you get along with your neighbors. If you don't get along with one or two, it might be them. If you don't get along with any of them, it is most likely you. One "solution" to that is to move to a new place, chosen so everyone in the area thinks like you. Then there's no need to re-evaluate your positions on anything; all your neighbors agree with you and confirm your beliefs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,089 #22 May 28, 2019 Well, I did move to western Massachusetts Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #23 May 28, 2019 7 hours ago, gowlerk said: "sphere of consciousness" AKA hocus pocus. I used to find that LSD brought everything into a large degree of clear focus. How is that possible with pupils so dilated? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,889 #24 May 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: How is that possible with pupils so dilated? It's all about the third eye. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #25 May 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, gowlerk said: It's all about the third eye. And an electric 8 way? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites