Infrastructure Week

[kallend 1,622]

 “We’re actually calling it Infrastructure Week in this administration.”   V.P. Pence, June 8, 2017

On June 8, 2017 Trump predicted that infrastructure spending would “take off like a rocket ship.”

Oct. 9, 2017: “9 Months Into Presidency, Trump Still Hasn’t Offered Infrastructure Plan.”

Dec. 14, 2017: “Trump’s Infrastructure Plan Is Almost Done — and Already Dead.”

Jan. 24, 2018: “Trump could reveal long-promised infrastructure plan within two weeks.”

According to the Urban Dictionary, Infrastructure Week  is: “A repeatedly failed attempt to stay on-task endlessly derailed by high-profile distractions caused by one’s own ineptitude.”

 

[turtlespeed 212]

You should google "Shovel Ready Jobs" for a comparison.

[normiss 622]

53 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

You should google "Shovel Ready Jobs" for a comparison.

I got Foxconn.

 

Which suddenly seems a rather fitting name.

[billvon 2,392]

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

You should google "Shovel Ready Jobs" for a comparison.

One of those happened right down the street from me; a bypass with new HOV lanes.  It was done by 2013.

[turtlespeed 212]

34 minutes ago, billvon said:

One of those happened right down the street from me; a bypass with new HOV lanes.  It was done by 2013.

When was the planning for that started?

[billvon 2,392]

23 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

When was the planning for that started?

2004?  2005?  Something like that.  It was stalled for a while due to lack of money.

[turtlespeed 212]

So the money became available as planned from before.

Before I give credit, id like to see the allocation of funds.

Especially, since Obama chuckled when called out on it, and said he guessed they weren't quite as shovel ready.

[billvon 2,392]

23 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

So the money became available as planned from before.

The money became available from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.  Was right there on the sign.

But to be fair, they didn't use many shovels; mostly bulldozers and cranes.  So I am sure you can claim it wasn't "shovel ready."

[turtlespeed 212]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

The money became available from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.  Was right there on the sign.

But to be fair, they didn't use many shovels; mostly bulldozers and cranes.  So I am sure you can claim it wasn't "shovel ready."

If that's the case - then awesome - Hopefully you are kidding, and they used more shovels though - it was supposed to put people back to work - not necessarily line the pockets of the already rich.

[kallend 1,622]

And then.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-bipartisan-infrastructure-plan-already-imperiled-as-mulvaney-gop-lawmakers-object-to-cost/2019/05/03/bc1d1e74-6dae-11e9-be3a-33217240a539_story.html?utm_term=.63d4a465dead&wpisrc=nl_rainbow&wpmm=1

[gowlerk 1,904]

18 minutes ago, kallend said:

And then.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-bipartisan-infrastructure-plan-already-imperiled-as-mulvaney-gop-lawmakers-object-to-cost/2019/05/03/bc1d1e74-6dae-11e9-be3a-33217240a539_story.html?utm_term=.63d4a465dead&wpisrc=nl_rainbow&wpmm=1

A massive stimulating federal spending program at a time of already record employment and a booming economy? No, just no.

[kallend 1,622]

Just now, gowlerk said:

A massive stimulating federal spending program at a time of already record employment and a booming economy? No, just no.

Who needs highways and bridges anyway?  They are for the little people who pay taxes.  All you need is your helicopter.

[turtlespeed 212]

On 5/4/2019 at 7:40 AM, kallend said:

Who needs highways and bridges anyway?  They are for the little people who pay taxes.  All you need is your helicopter.

That is only in South Chicago.

Edited May 5, 2019 by turtlespeed

[kallend 1,622]

5 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

That is only in South Chicago.

I suggest you quit posting about a city of which it is apparent you know absolutely nothing.  It just  makes you look ignorant.

[AlanS 1]

2 hours ago, kallend said:

I suggest you quit posting about a city of which it is apparent you know absolutely nothing.  It just  makes you look ignorant.

Wow, what a great contribution this fantastic forum.  No wonder nobody posts here. It's people like you.

 

Edited May 6, 2019 by AlanS

[kallend 1,622]

On 5/6/2019 at 12:51 AM, AlanS said:

Wow, what a great contribution this fantastic forum.  No wonder nobody posts here. It's people like you.

 

No-one is forcing you to read what I write.

[turtlespeed 212]

4 hours ago, kallend said:

No-one is forcing you to read what I write.

People may pay more attention if you posted more than trivial narcissism, contempt, and insults.

The above is why I chuckle when you post things like you did- because it makes you look so childish, while you have this huge self image of importance.

 

The irony alone is entertaining enough to keep me coming back.

Thanks John!

[kallend 1,622]

On 5/6/2019 at 8:51 AM, turtlespeed said:

People may pay more attention if you posted more than trivial narcissism, contempt, and insults.

The above is why I chuckle when you post things like you did- because it makes you look so childish, while you have this huge self image of importance.

 

The irony alone is entertaining enough to keep me coming back.

Thanks John!

I live in Chicago, and it is very clear from your snide comments about the city that you know almost nothing about it.  So, yes, when you post such comments about it I do have contempt for your foolishness. 

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

58 minutes ago, kallend said:

I live in Chicago, and it is very clear from your snide comments about the city that you know almost nothing about it.  So, yes, when you post such comments about it I do have contempt for your foolishness. 

You could always put him on your 'ignore' list. 

You certainly wouldn't miss anything of substance.

[JerryBaumchen 1,047]

56 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

You certainly wouldn't miss anything of substance.

Hi Joe,

^^^^^^^^  This.

Jerry Baumchen

[billvon 2,392]

On 5/3/2019 at 10:33 AM, turtlespeed said:

If that's the case - then awesome - Hopefully you are kidding, and they used more shovels though - it was supposed to put people back to work - not necessarily line the pockets of the already rich.

I didn't see many; you can't really use a shovel out here.  But there were a lot of people building forms when I would drive by.

And if you think that public work projects don't line the pockets of the already rich - I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you that was built only by hourly employees, and didn't enrich any moguls one bit.

[turtlespeed 212]

15 minutes ago, billvon said:

I didn't see many; you can't really use a shovel out here.  But there were a lot of people building forms when I would drive by.

And if you think that public work projects don't line the pockets of the already rich - I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you that was built only by hourly employees, and didn't enrich any moguls one bit.

I am fully aware of the reality.

I was talking about the intent - you know - what it was sold to the people as.

[billvon 2,392]

4 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

I was talking about the intent - you know - what it was sold to the people as.

I don't know of anyone who thought that "shovel ready" meant that people would use shovels, and/or that all the money would go to people using shovels (or laborers using similar tools.)  It meant that the work was ready to go.  And a lot of it was, although not as much as was promised.

[turtlespeed 212]

23 minutes ago, billvon said:

I don't know of anyone who thought that "shovel ready" meant that people would use shovels, and/or that all the money would go to people using shovels (or laborers using similar tools.)  It meant that the work was ready to go.  And a lot of it was, although not as much as was promised.

All - no - Many - or most - yes - 

I work in the construction industry, in the field, and I heard conversations about it all day long as it was being touted.

 

[wmw999 2,120]

A decent sized public project isn’t shovel ready if a fair amount of work hasn’t already been invested in engineering, feasibility, and governmental facets. That takes time. 

So I’d say that anything that was quickly “shovel ready” and had been started after the announcement was half-assed in the extreme. 

Wendy P.