yobnoc 142 #826 May 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, brenthutch said: As Nancy said, “a glass of water with a D could win her district” and as I said, Nancy has her firmly on a leash. She is a useful idiot to quote Lenin. Yeah, except she knocked off the #4 Democrat in Congress (Crowley). Nancy is a little salty about that one, methinks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #827 May 15, 2019 Quite right, and that is why NP is playing AOC like a court jester, she even let her hold the gavel the other day. Whimsical leftist will all gleefully fall into line as Pelosi practices realpolitik. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yobnoc 142 #828 May 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Quite right, and that is why NP is playing AOC like a court jester, she even let her hold the gavel the other day. Whimsical leftist will all gleefully fall into line as Pelosi practices realpolitik. Has it crossed your mind that AOC is well aware of Nancy's disdain for her? What would you have her do? Cross her arms and give a pouty look at Nancy when she offers the gavel? While that would certainly reinforce your view of the "snowflake generation," it's not good politics. Nancy might have set her up for a no-win situation, but I don't believe for a second that AOC is swooned by her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #829 May 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, yobnoc said: Has it crossed your mind that AOC is well aware of Nancy's disdain for her? What would you have her do? Cross her arms and give a pouty look at Nancy when she offers the gavel? While that would certainly reinforce your view of the "snowflake generation," it's not good politics. Nancy might have set her up for a no-win situation, but I don't believe for a second that AOC is swooned by her. Swooned - Probably not - It takes a garbage disposal to do that - Oops - sorry that was Baffle. NC definitely baffles AOC. . . . but then so does a garbage disposal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #830 May 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: NC definitely baffles AOC. . . . but then so does a garbage disposal. Yep, you can feel the fear. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 256 #831 May 15, 2019 7 hours ago, billvon said: Yep, you can feel the fear. The more reprehensible the comments about her get, the higher the probability she is doing the right thing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #832 May 15, 2019 8 hours ago, billvon said: Yep, you can feel the fear. Agreed https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/green-new-deal-divides-democrats-intent-on-addressing-climate-change/2018/12/27/c3b6a144-02d5-11e9-b5df-5d3874f1ac36_story.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #833 May 15, 2019 23 hours ago, brenthutch said: "Like the “world ending in 12 years” thing, you’d have to have the social intelligence of a sea sponge to think it’s literal." She really shouldn't talk about her constituents that way. 20 hours ago, billvon said: an intelligent, outspoken minority woman At least more intelligent than a sea sponge, apparently. 21 hours ago, billvon said: who is bringing new ideas to the table Saying whatever dumb shit you want just to get attention and then calling people idiots for taking it the wrong way doesn't sound like a new idea, it's sounds like Trump. . . .So, to borrow your quote about Candice Owen: "She may well have some good ideas. But if this is representative of her thought process, she's a loon." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #834 May 15, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, brenthutch said: As Nancy said, “a glass of water with a D could win her district” and as I said, Nancy has her firmly on a leash. She is a useful idiot to quote Lenin. You're very far away from accurately describing that quote. It's no wonder you got the previous "world will end in 12 years" one wrong. https://www.newsweek.com/pelosi-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-glass-water-win-district-1397640 I know it's a catchy headline because you can technically say that she said it but her quote was: “When we won this election, it wasn't in districts like mine or Alexandria's. And she's a wonderful member of Congress, I think all of our colleagues will attest, but those are districts that are solidly Democratic. This glass of water would win with a D next to its name in those districts. And not to diminish the exuberance, and the personality, and the rest of Alexandria and the other members...but the 43 districts—we won 43, net gain of 40—were right down the middle. Mainstream, hold-the-center victories." Edited May 15, 2019 by DJL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #835 May 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Coreece said: At least more intelligent than a sea sponge, apparently. And most of the people here, apparently. Quote Saying whatever dumb shit you want just to get attention and then calling people idiots for taking it the wrong way doesn't sound like a new idea, it's sounds like Trump. Saying what you believe in, then calling people idiots who say idiotic or misleading things about it, is what got her elected. She is certainly not politically correct - and that's one of her pluses, not minuses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 25 #836 May 16, 2019 (edited) On 5/13/2019 at 5:51 PM, brenthutch said: Yes, once the concentration of CO2 exceeds 600ppm, the fertilization effect levels off. We still have quite a lot of upside left. and in the real world most "Green Houses" increase Co2 from 1000 to 1500 ppm. for optimal growth, I think GMO are already on this potential problem,just as they did with vitimin A deficency hence golden rice. On 5/13/2019 at 3:20 PM, brenthutch said: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth http://www.fao.org/worldfoodsituation/csdb/en/ Thank you, Good news for mankind in its' waning days of the apocalypse,is a refeshing breath of fresh air. Here in California the Devastating drought is officially over,but it doesn't seem to be news worthy. So right back at you... AOC is an idiot ...ya, thats why they FEAR her.. "I Can Fly, Free apple pie" Edited May 16, 2019 by richravizza I can fly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 25 #837 May 16, 2019 (edited) As an ecologist at heart,I find this quite disturbing.What they dont want you to see. Edited May 16, 2019 by richravizza Added content Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 25 #838 May 16, 2019 (edited) back to the subjuct of FEAR. I truly believe we will come together and embrace nuclear power one day. We will have come fulll circle. From the depths of the psychotic Cold War,the insanity of Mutual Assured Destruction,and all out thermonuclear war. To a place where the benifits to humanity and our environment can equally be embraced and celebrated. Edited May 16, 2019 by richravizza 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #839 May 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, richravizza said: As an ecologist at heart,I find this quite disturbing. O the horror. Now google how many birds are killed by coal power plants. Or by pet cats. What? The denier video you watched didn't mention that? How odd. It's almost as if they don't give a shit about birds; they just want to support their political agenda. Quote Here in California the Devastating drought is officially over,but it doesn't seem to be news worthy. NEWS FLASH! Apartment building does NOT burn down! A dozen families are NOT homeless! News at 11! Think that news station would have anyone watching them? Quote AOC is an idiot ...ya, thats why they FEAR her.. If the right wing weren't afraid of her, there wouldn't be long threads of right wingers attacking her, hours and hours of programming on FOX News trying to discredit her, and right wing talking heads spending entire radio shows attacking her ideas. They'd just ignore her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 25 #840 May 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, billvon said: If the right wing weren't afraid of her, there wouldn't be long threads of right wingers attacking her, hours and hours of programming on FOX News trying to discredit her, and right wing talking heads spending entire radio shows attacking her ideas. They'd just ignore her. LoL,When have I ever endorsed a coal power plant? you assume, us deniers are all alike. Now your going to defend an imbecile,a glass of water? this is going to be good. Did you watch any of the Video? Listen to one word of that poorly educated senior concpricy fellow, Mark Mills Well I got news for you,while your having your campaign socialist debates on the vertue of renewables. Merica just watched the Video, and can recognize a "useful idiot" when we see one. So is Howard Shultz now a right winger? Edited May 16, 2019 by richravizza Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 25 #841 May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, billvon said: Now google how many birds are killed by coal power plants. I took your advice came up with this. The table below shows selected causes of bird death out of an annual total of 186,429,553 estimated deaths caused by human activity. Mark Duchamp, the president of Save the Eagles International is probably the most prominent person to speak out birth deaths at wind farms. He says, "The average per turbine comes down to 333 to 1,000 deaths annually which is a far cry from the 2-4 birds claimed by the American wind industry or the 400,000 birds a year estimated by the American Bird Conservancy for the whole of the United States, which has about twice as many turbines as Spain." and this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 25 #842 May 16, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, billvon said: Saying what you believe in, then calling people idiots who say idiotic or misleading things about it, is what got her elected. She is certainly not politically correct - and that's one of her pluses, not minuses. Run with that, Most of America knows she's a hypocrite,she lives in one of the best cities of America to take mass transit. What does she do? Take a subway, Take a train to D.C.? a Bus to her office? Video conference? Oh no, She says what she beleives all right,and a carbon footprint the size of Al Gore and DiCaprio to prove it. As for her intelligence,well you be the judge "O the Horror" Edited May 16, 2019 by richravizza Horror Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #843 May 16, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, billvon said: O the horror. Now google how many birds are killed by coal power plants. Or by pet cats. What? The denier video you watched didn't mention that? How odd. It's almost as if they don't give a shit about birds; they just want to support their political agenda Watch the video before you opine. He addressed that very issue. My favorite quote, “cats don’t eat eagles, eagles eat cats.” I also liked “now that we know renewables cannot save the planet, will we continue to let them destroy it.” BTW it is NOT a denier video. At no time does he even question AGW. Please watch the entire video and try to refrain from name calling. Edited May 16, 2019 by brenthutch 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #844 May 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Watch the video before you opine. He addressed that very issue. My favorite quote, “cats don’t eat eagles, eagles eat cats. Ah....so then it's only eagles we care about while defending fossil fuel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #845 May 16, 2019 Anyone care to comment on Stossel's vid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #846 May 16, 2019 41 minutes ago, DJL said: Ah....so then it's only eagles we care about while defending fossil fuel? At no point does the speaker defend fossil fuels. It would appear that you are confused. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #847 May 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, brenthutch said: At no point does the speaker defend fossil fuels. It would appear that you are confused. Oh...sorry again. So what are we doing here just saying that wind farms are bad in comparison to nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #848 May 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, DJL said: Oh...sorry again. So what are we doing here just saying that wind farms are bad in comparison to nothing. Obviously you did not watch the video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #849 May 16, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Obviously you did not watch the video. The one about rare earth elements or the one about the birds getting whacked by windmills or the one with the bro in the TED talk or the one with the Voldemort looking guy or the one about birds getting zapped by reflectors or the one about how scary AOC is? Edited May 16, 2019 by DJL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
