billvon 2,379 #1826 October 1, 2019 5 hours ago, brenthutch said: Wow, I didn't know that. Well what is stopping us? Well, Trump and people like you who are doing all you can to stop it. Trump's solar panel tariffs, for example, have significantly slowed growth here in the US. But beyond that not much, other than being able to make enough PV fast enough. (Fun fact - one of the few cash-positive exports the US still has is PV manufacturing equipment.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #1827 October 1, 2019 37 minutes ago, billvon said: Well, Trump and people like you who are doing all you can to stop it. Trump's solar panel tariffs, for example, have significantly slowed growth here in the US. I don't want to stop it, I just don't want to waste taxpayer money subsidizing it. Just recently the borough of State College (where I live) approved a million dollar + expenditure for solar panels at the local jail. I would have rather seen that money spent on drug rehab programs and job training, I guess that makes me a monster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #1828 October 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I don't want to stop it, I just don't want to waste taxpayer money subsidizing it. Just recently the borough of State College (where I live) approved a million dollar + expenditure for solar panels at the local jail. I would have rather seen that money spent on drug rehab programs and job training, I guess that makes me a monster. Are you saying that a million dollars is all they'll ever have? They can do all of it, you know, go get involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,379 #1829 October 1, 2019 26 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I don't want to stop it, I just don't want to waste taxpayer money subsidizing it. Just recently the borough of State College (where I live) approved a million dollar + expenditure for solar panels at the local jail. Cool. Now they will have more money on a month to month basis to pay for drug rehab and job training. Per the County Board Chairman, they decided "to go into an investment strategy that over time will basically pay for itself and actually bring some money back into the county." Win-win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #1830 October 1, 2019 Based on some wildly optimistic assumptions. Reminds me of Georgetown TX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #1831 October 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Based on some wildly optimistic assumptions. Reminds me of Georgetown TX. I would hope they're not going to do something as dumb as tying themselves into a long term flat rate AND be on the hook for the balance of the construction cost. You'd think Republicans would learn that Socialism is bad... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,046 #1832 October 1, 2019 15 hours ago, kallend said: the capacity to manufacture large numbers of items. Hi John, That is how we won WW II. Some of Hitler's generals, who had visited the US in the early 30's, told him about the mfg capacity of the US. He would not believe them. The rest is history. Jerry Baumchen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #1833 October 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, DJL said: I would hope they're not going to do something as dumb as tying themselves into a long term flat rate AND be on the hook for the balance of the construction cost. You'd think Republicans would learn that Socialism is bad... You would be right, the one Republican voted against the project the two Democrats voted for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #1834 October 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, brenthutch said: You would be right, the one Republican voted against the project the two Democrats voted for it. And now you're stuck with the saving from Solar getting shoved down your throat like a polenta kale smoothie. I'm skeptical of such installations too because some of these groups operate with all the effectiveness of a HOA committee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,379 #1835 October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: Based on some wildly optimistic assumptions. You mean like - pretty much every investment, ever? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,901 #1836 October 1, 2019 31 minutes ago, billvon said: You mean like - pretty much every investment, ever? Like....putting cash into a DZ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,114 #1837 October 1, 2019 Funny how some conservatives are all bent out of shape over spending tax money on solar power and other green stuff. But being against the Iraq war, and objecting to having a significantly larger amount of our money spent on it. Wendy P. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #1838 October 2, 2019 I was against the Afghanistan, war from the start. If we wanted to attack the country from where 9/11 was planned, we would have invaded Germany. As far as Iraq, the case for war was so week that I thought the administration had an ace in its sleeve and was holding back to protect sources and methods, I was wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #1839 October 2, 2019 5 hours ago, DJL said: And now you're stuck with the saving from Solar getting shoved down your throat like a polenta kale smoothie. I'm skeptical of such installations too because some of these groups operate with all the effectiveness of a HOA committee. You have no idea how correct you are. Upgrading two miles of north Atherton street has taken two different general contractors, more than twelve million dollars and three years and counting. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwixnvborPzkAhXug-AKHUTyD40QjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.centredaily.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Fcommunity%2Fstate-college%2Farticle216297995.html&psig=AOvVaw2HR111ol6aurqrzHCQwOLC&ust=1570063593934452 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #1840 October 2, 2019 (edited) Double post, sorry Edited October 2, 2019 by brenthutch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #1841 October 2, 2019 6 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi John, That is how we won WW II. Some of Hitler's generals, who had visited the US in the early 30's, told him about the mfg capacity of the US. He would not believe them. The rest is history. Jerry Baumchen As a twenty year veteran in the combat arms, I would like to think that it might have a little something to do with our soldiers, sailors airmen and marines. There is no other fighting force on the planet as effective as the US military. In fact the only fighting force that has been shown to be effective against the military of the United states, is itself. "Roughly 1,264,000 American soldiers have died in the nation's wars--620,000 in the Civil War and 644,000 in all other conflicts. It was only as recently as the Vietnam War that the amount of American deaths in foreign wars eclipsed the number who died in the Civil War." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,046 #1842 October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: As a twenty year veteran Hi Brent, I am a veteran also, 4 good yrs with no regrets. However, both Eisenhower & MacArthur, who served in WWI knew that they would rather lose equipment rather than people. As had been the methodology of WWI. I firmly agree that the American fighting forces are better than all others. Jerry Baumchen 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,294 #1843 October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Brent, I am a veteran also, 4 good yrs with no regrets. However, both Eisenhower & MacArthur, who served in WWI knew that they would rather lose equipment rather than people. As had been the methodology of WWI. I firmly agree that the American fighting forces are better than all others. Jerry Baumchen Hey Jerry, Here's a picture of my dad and some of his Antifa friends over Ploesti, Romania protesting an assemblage of white nationalists. He strongly believed in a strong military but he also believed, as did Eisenhower, it should not be who we are. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #1844 October 2, 2019 10 hours ago, brenthutch said: As a twenty year veteran in the combat arms, I would like to think that it might have a little something to do with our soldiers, sailors airmen and marines. There is no other fighting force on the planet as effective as the US military. In fact the only fighting force that has been shown to be effective against the military of the United states, is itself. I would take that mostly to be in reference to what Lend Lease did for the war effort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,379 #1845 October 2, 2019 15 hours ago, brenthutch said: As a twenty year veteran in the combat arms, I would like to think that it might have a little something to do with our soldiers, sailors airmen and marines. There is no other fighting force on the planet as effective as the US military. Agreed. For some things, socialism works VERY well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loudtom 5 #1846 October 3, 2019 Just saw this. This guy doesn’t sound like an idiot... https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yoKMBMPeNnGQ?t=1m8s huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loudtom 5 #1847 October 3, 2019 You know what? This doesn’t sound that crazy either. huh https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/climate-change all found on The Conservative Treehouse. Com hummmmm... https://theconservativetreehouse.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,619 #1848 October 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, loudtom said: You know what? This doesn’t sound that crazy either. huh https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/climate-change all found on The Conservative Treehouse. Com hummmmm... https://theconservativetreehouse.com/ I'm sure real climate scientists are falling over themselves trying to get published in https://www.churchmilitant.com NOT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,379 #1849 October 3, 2019 21 hours ago, loudtom said: Just saw this. This guy doesn’t sound like an idiot... https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yoKMBMPeNnGQ?t=1m8s huh? "Why @realDonaldTrump did the RIGHT thing on pulling out of the Paris Accords: Get the App!" A new way to sell apps! Clever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,379 #1850 October 3, 2019 21 hours ago, loudtom said: You know what? This doesn’t sound that crazy either. huh https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/climate-change Racist agenda? Vatican conspiracy? How alarming! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
