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trump's Final Desperate Acts

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As Mueller's findings draw closer to full disclosure. trump's psychosis will manifest itself in increasingly desperate actions to appease his shrinking base.

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Just now, gowlerk said:

Trump may cut a deal with Pence shortly. Resignation and pardon. Just like Nixon.

God Bless America

Not sure his ego would allow for this.

Secondly, I believe there will be enough state level charges that a presidential pardon may not help him very much.

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Trump is never going to resign.  He is the very definition of the narcissistic sociopath.  I have said it a dozen times before.  He will not resign because that personality type has never done anything wrong in his lifetime according to his own dysfunctional internal brain-works.

I am not sure that he would even leave if impeached and told to leave.  Of course that is a pipe dream anyway since Congress abandoned their responsibilities to the country and the constitution a long time ago and we are only reaping the benefits of that now.

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1 hour ago, tkhayes said:

Trump is never going to resign.  He is the very definition of the narcissistic sociopath.  I have said it a dozen times before.  He will not resign because that personality type has never done anything wrong in his lifetime according to his own dysfunctional internal brain-works.

I am not sure that he would even leave if impeached and told to leave.  Of course that is a pipe dream anyway since Congress abandoned their responsibilities to the country and the constitution a long time ago and we are only reaping the benefits of that now.

Right in the first paragraph. Too pessimistic in the second. Its all about the base of trump support. trump lost an important vote this week on the lifting of sanctions on one of Putin's oligarch friends.

House Republicans join Democrats to rebuke Trump on Russia moves    

The latest polls show 57% of voters will vote against trump in any possible 2020 election. Republican congressmen will have to face voters as well. Now they are reluctant to cross him. When disclosures in hearings and the Mueller report comes out. As trump cult support crumbles. Republican senators will jump ship.

Which brings me back to your correct perceptions of his behaviors in your first paragraph. He will go down in the sinking ship with Donald JR., Kushner and Ivanka. Everyone forgets that Mueller has Allen Weisselberg, CFO of the trump Organization, as a co-operating witness.. You call that game, set and match.

Now I bring up a idea core to many trump supporters of guns and the law. The US constitution. Which states:

"Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution requires the President to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” This clause, known as the Take Care Clause, requires the President to enforce all constitutionally valid Acts of Congress, regardless of his own Administration’s view of their wisdom or policy. The clause imposes a duty on the President; it does not confer a discretionary power. The Take Care Clause is a limit on the Vesting Clause’s grant to the President of “the executive power.”

The United States Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, in an opinion handed down just last year striking down the President’s assertion of authority to disregard a federal statute, provided a succinct description of the President’s obligations under the Take Care Clause, as follows:

Under Article II of the Constitution and relevant Supreme Court precedents, the President must follow statutory mandates so long as there is appropriated money available and the President has no constitutional objection to the statute. So, too, the President must abide by statutory prohibitions unless the President has a constitutional objection to the prohibition. If the President has a constitutional objection to a statutory mandate or prohibition, the President may decline to follow the law unless and until a final Court order dictates otherwise. But the President may not decline to follow a statutory mandate or prohibition simply because of policy objections. Of course, if Congress appropriates no money for a statutorily mandated program, the Executive obviously cannot move forward. But absent a lack of funds or a claim of unconstitutionality that has not been rejected by final Court order, the Executive must abide by statutory mandates and prohibitions. "

The President’s Duty to Faithfully Execute the Law

The law and trump. By definition and by actions. Separate in every form, from the aforementioned articles of the US constitution.

trump is making an announcement today about his self made crisis at the border. Keep in mind the above quote and SC interpretation of the Constitution. Because you can rest assured. Despite over 30 lawyers in trump's personal employment in the WH. trump won't.

Finally, the US constitution sets out the standards for impeachment. Its not what many quote "high crimes and misdemeanors". Instead it states:

" The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. "

Numerous reports have been made with regards to the Moscow Tower project. Which trump had been trying to build for decades. The reports suggest that President Putin would receive for free. The penthouse suite, if the project was approved.

"While legal experts scramble to decipher what might be going on in the shady minds of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi — and the even more shadowy Roger Stone, a Trump confidant — too little attention has been paid to the more basic question of what President Trump and his team have been doing as part of an increasingly obvious conspiracy to obstruct the investigation into the Trump campaign’s collusion with Russia during the 2016 presidential election.

It seems clear that President Trump has been dangling tantalizing hints, if not outright offers, of future pardons from federal prosecution to Manafort, Corsi, former national security adviser Michael Flynn, Manafort associate Rick Gates, and anyone else who might incriminate him. Reporting by The New York Times suggests that these characters might harbor damaging information about Trump’s involvement with Russia in the treacherous, if not literally treasonous, effort to attack computer systems in the United States, weaponize information stolen by WikiLeaks and Julian Assange, and deliver Trump the 2016 election.

The Times story shows how Manafort’s offer to cooperate with Mueller was a complete ruse, concocted in coordination with Team Trump to enable the president to plant Manafort inside Mueller’s office as a mole. With Manafort agreeing to this scheme in likely exchange for the prospect of a full pardon, many observers are discussing the respects in which the coordinated effort of the two supposedly adverse defense teams to influence one another’s testimony in Mueller’s investigation, even after Manafort abandoned his defense, might amount to witness tampering or other forms of criminal obstruction of justice atop the Russia inquiry.

In our recent book, “To End a Presidency: The Power of Impeachment,” my coauthor Joshua Matz and I concluded that the “corrupt exercise of power in exchange for a personal benefit defines impeachable bribery.” Apart from treason, bribery is the only abuse of power expressly singled out in Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution as a basis to impeach, convict, and remove a president. Whatever else may count as a “high crime and misdemeanor,” bribery is specifically designated as one of the two paradigm offenses for which a president is removable through the impeachment process. That’s why, in what might now appear to be an understatement, we observed that using “the pardon power as part of a plan to prevent witnesses from testifying, or to discourage them from telling the truth, might well be impeachable.” Dangling the pardon is the quid; getting help in obstructing justice to shield the president is the quo. Quid pro quo: bribery.

Notably, when the Supreme Court, in McDonnell v. United States, in 2016, narrowed the definition of what counts as an “official act,” for purposes of federal bribery statutes, to “formal exercises of governmental power” — which would surely include issuing a pardon — it did not similarly narrow what counts as “an exchange for a thing of value.” On the contrary, the court made clear that receiving “a thing of value knowing that it was given with the expectation” of a future “official act” like a pardon would constitute criminal bribery."

above quote from:

Is Trump guilty of bribery?

 

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Treason is going to be tough to get a conviction on. I've noted this before.

It's clearly and specifically defined in the Constitution. It uses words that include "enemy" and "in times of war".

 

Since we aren't at war with Russia; and while they are certainly and adversary, and a hostile one at that, they aren't really classifiable as an 'enemy', treason really couldn't be used.

 

Even John Lindh (the "American Taliban") wasn't charged with treason. One reason being that if he had been, then the conflict in Afghanistan would need to be called a 'war' and then Geneva Conventions would have had to be applied to all of the 'enemy combatants'. They would have had to be called "Prisoners of War" and the US didn't want to do that.

 

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if the 'bribery' part of the impeachment clause mean taking bribes? Or paying them? Because there's some pretty strong indication that Trump paid bribes to a couple of state's Attorneys General to make the Trump U 'problem' go away, and more that the NYC DA was paid off to make real estate fraud charges go away for Ivanka and one of the sons.

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43 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Treason is going to be tough to get a conviction on. I've noted this before.

It's clearly and specifically defined in the Constitution. It uses words that include "enemy" and "in times of war".

 

Since we aren't at war with Russia; and while they are certainly and adversary, and a hostile one at that, they aren't really classifiable as an 'enemy', treason really couldn't be used.

 

Even John Lindh (the "American Taliban") wasn't charged with treason. One reason being that if he had been, then the conflict in Afghanistan would need to be called a 'war' and then Geneva Conventions would have had to be applied to all of the 'enemy combatants'. They would have had to be called "Prisoners of War" and the US didn't want to do that.

 

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if the 'bribery' part of the impeachment clause mean taking bribes? Or paying them? Because there's some pretty strong indication that Trump paid bribes to a couple of state's Attorneys General to make the Trump U 'problem' go away, and more that the NYC DA was paid off to make real estate fraud charges go away for Ivanka and one of the sons.

" The Constitution elsewhere specifies that treason against the United States consists “only in levying War” against the country or in giving the country’s enemies “Aid and Comfort.” ...

At the Constitutional Convention, an early draft included “treason, bribery, and corruption,” but it was shorn of that last item by the time it arrived on the floor. George Mason, of Virginia, spoke up. “Why is the provision restrained to Treason & bribery only?” he asked, according to James Madison’s notes. “Treason as defined in the Constitution will not reach many great and dangerous offences … Attempts to subvert the Constitution may not be Treason as above defined.” Mason moved to add “or maladministration.”

Madison, though, objected that “so vague a term will be equivalent to a tenure during pleasure of the Senate.” Gouverneur Morris further argued that “an election of every four years will prevent maladministration.” Mere incompetence or policy disputes were best dealt with by voters. But that still left Mason’s original concern, for the “many great and dangerous offences” not covered by treason or bribery. Instead of “maladministration,” he suggested, why not substitute “other high crimes & misdemeanors (agst. the State)”? The motion carried.

Constitutional lawyers have been arguing about what counts as a “high crime” or “misdemeanor” ever since. The phrase itself was borrowed from English common law, although there is no reason to suppose Mason and his colleagues were deeply familiar with its uses in that context. The Nixon impeachment spurred Charles L. Black, a Yale law professor, to write Impeachment: A Handbook, a slender volume that remains a defining work on the question.

Black makes two key points. First, he notes that as a matter of logic as well as context and precedent, not every violation of a criminal statute amounts to a “high crime” or “misdemeanor.” To apply his reasoning, some crimes—say, violating 40 U.S.C. §8103(b)(2) by willfully injuring a shrub on federal property in Washington, D.C.—cannot possibly be impeachable offenses. Conversely, a president may violate his oath of office without violating the letter of the law. A president could, for example, harness the enforcement powers of the federal government to systematically persecute his political opponents, or he could grossly neglect the duties of his office. That sort of conduct, in Black’s view, is impeachable even when it is not actually criminal."

Above from:

Impeach Donald Trump

Starting the process will rein in a president who is undermining American ideals—and bring the debate about his fitness for office into Congress, where it belongs.

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George F. Will (impeccable conservative), Jan 19, 2019:

It must be misery to awaken to another day of being Donald Trump. He seems to have as many friends as his pluperfect self-centeredness allows, and as he has earned in an entirely transactional life. His historical ignorance deprives him of the satisfaction of working in a house where much magnificent history has been made. His childlike ignorance — preserved by a lifetime of single-minded self-promotion — concerning governance and economics guarantees that whenever he must interact with experienced and accomplished people, he is as bewildered as a kindergartener at a seminar on string theory.

Which is why this fountain of self-refuting boasts (“I have a very good brain”) lies so much. He does so less to deceive anyone than to reassure himself. And as balm for his base, which remains oblivious to his likely contempt for them as sheep who can be effortlessly gulled by preposterous fictions. The tungsten strength of his supporters’ loyalty is as impressive as his indifference to expanding their numbers.

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2 hours ago, airdvr said:

Mueller's office disputes BuzzFeed report that Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress

I'll just leave this here for all of you who now need to change your panties

Good.  More proof that Mueller is independent of political influence.

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2 hours ago, airdvr said:

Mueller's office disputes BuzzFeed report that Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress

I'll just leave this here for all of you who now need to change your panties

Well, after all of the 'anonymous source' stories that have come out, eventually one has to turn out to be incorrect. Although, BuzzFeed is standing by their story. 
And does this mean that you will accept what Mueller's report says as fact?
Or is that only for things that match your agenda?

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trumps psychological profile suggests that in the coming weeks he is more likely to strike out to distract. The Mueller investigation disclosures and the trump cave on the wall. Will provide impetus to more desperate actions.

Trump administration ready to suspend Russian arms control pact

"The Trump administration is poised to suspend a landmark, Soviet-era arms control pact with Russia, a move likely to inflame already high tensions between Washington and Moscow. ..

In December, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo gave Russia 60 days to come back into compliance before the United States would suspend its obligations under the treaty. That deadline comes Feb. 2."

U.S. nuclear arsenal to cost $1.2 trillion over next 30 years: CBO

Trump Is Starting a Cold War With China to Distract From the Russia Scandal

 

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One of the reasons Trump is going to withdraw from the INF is because Putin told him to.


There's also the fact that Trump has made it quite clear that he doesn't give a shit about anything outside the US borders. 

 

The INF was mostly to protect Europe from shorter range nukes, primarily 'cruise missiles'. Those don't represent any significant threat to the US mainland (threatened by ICBMs & SSBMs).

Russia has been accused of being in violation of this agreement for a long time. The threat they see, where they need these sorts of weapons isn't the US or Europe, it's China. And China was not a participant in the INF. 
So Russia wants to have these weapons, but doesn't want to be the one who withdrew from the treaty.

So Putin tells Trump to withdraw from the treaty, Russia gets to have these weapons and can blame the US for the failure of the agreement. 

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More distractions, more bones for his base and the hell with everyone else.

Trump steps up attack on Planned Parenthood

Trump's War on California

Meanwhile trump wants to further his war on Iran and this story illustrates his desperation.

Its a former terrorist group and some of its ideals are difficult to believe. "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." Well Americans need to wake up about trump's stupidity of international policy. The references that the story makes to trump state department officials are REAL! Because this group makes the mullahs of Tehran look like Walī (saints).

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23 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Phil,

Re:  trump's Final Desperate Acts

 

 

Just when you think it cannot get any dumber: 

'attempted coup'

 

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47884252

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  He seems to think this type of crap makes him seen as being in charge.  FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IMO, it's not him people should be worried about, it's Attorney General Barr. The liberals are in meltdown mode.

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1 hour ago, headoverheels said:

Ridiculous statement.

No, no, he's right... I just scanned the news and there's actually one outlet (CNN) that even mentions it on their front page. Full blown meltdown.

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