Trump's economic plan

[RonD1120 58]

normiss

I wondered today if he realizes he will never receive half the respect that GHW Bush received, even in death.
Especially in death for that matter.

Time will tell but, I do not believe he is concerned at all.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[SkyDekker 1,120]

RonD1120

***I wondered today if he realizes he will never receive half the respect that GHW Bush received, even in death.
Especially in death for that matter.

Time will tell but, I do not believe he is concerned at all.

I think that is one of two things he is concerned with. Money and ego. I think both are going to be heavily bruised at the end of this.

[GeorgiaDon 340]

RonD1120

******He repeatedly fucked other people out of their money, that's not "kept going".

We've been through this before, and it turns out Ron fully supports criminal or con-man behaviour as long as the perpetrator is 'winning'.

I believe the concept you are searching for is pragmatism.One could argue that pimps, drug dealers, and hit men are "pragmatic". They all provide a service that is in demand, for a price. No doubt you find them admirable as well.

Don

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Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)

[jakee 1,254]

GeorgiaDon

One could argue that pimps, drug dealers, and hit men are "pragmatic". They all provide a service that is in demand, for a price. No doubt you find them admirable as well.

Oh no, thats quite different.

See, morality applies to people Ron doesn't like, pragmatism applies to people he does.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[nigel99 143]

RonD1120

***He repeatedly fucked other people out of their money, that's not "kept going".

Bottom line in business, caveat emptor.

The point I am stating is that no one has stopped him. There is no one on this forum that could stand up to the assaults that he has withstood.

You never cease to amaze me with your complete and utter lack of a moral compass.

It goes to reinforce my views that many if not most religious people are unable to accept responsibility for their own actions.

It is amazing that as a ‘Christian’ you support not paying your debts to those you owe in the way that Trump has repeatedly done.

Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

[wmw999 2,116]

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I believe the concept you are searching for is pragmatism

When the Communists said that (the end justifies the means) it was evil.

Do we trust the process, or the end? If the end is what’s important, who decides? It’s usually the guy with the most money and power. If we stick with the process, then everyone has a chance to influence it.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Phil1111 908]

RonD1120

******He repeatedly fucked other people out of their money, that's not "kept going".

We've been through this before, and it turns out Ron fully supports criminal or con-man behaviour as long as the perpetrator is 'winning'.

I believe the concept you are searching for is pragmatism.

At the president’s New Jersey golf course, an undocumented immigrant has worked as a maid since 2013.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/us/trump-bedminster-golf-undocumented-workers.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

During more than five years as a housekeeper at the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J., Victorina Morales has made Donald J. Trump’s bed, cleaned his toilet and dusted his crystal golf trophies. When he visited as president, she was directed to wear a pin in the shape of the American flag adorned with a Secret Service logo.

Because of the “outstanding” support she has provided during Mr. Trump’s visits, Ms. Morales in July was given a certificate from the White House Communications Agency inscribed with her name.

Quite an achievement for an undocumented immigrant housekeeper."

More pragmatism[only for US conservative Christians and their leader D.J. trump]:

Fox News Host, Donald Trump Ally Sean Hannity Tells Potential Witnesses Not to Talk to the FBI Amid Mueller Probe
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-ally-sean-hannity-tells-potential-mueller-witnesses-dont-talk-1247625

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

RonD1120

******He repeatedly fucked other people out of their money, that's not "kept going".

We've been through this before, and it turns out Ron fully supports criminal or con-man behaviour as long as the perpetrator is 'winning'.

I believe the concept you are searching for is pragmatism.

So someone who lies, cheats and steals is ok in your book.

He also bribes public officials to avoid criminal charges, both for himself and his kids.

Somehow I'm not too terribly surprised that you don't have a problem with this.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[Iago 8]

wolfriverjoe

*********He repeatedly fucked other people out of their money, that's not "kept going".

We've been through this before, and it turns out Ron fully supports criminal or con-man behaviour as long as the perpetrator is 'winning'.

I believe the concept you are searching for is pragmatism.

So someone who lies, cheats and steals is ok in your book.

He also bribes public officials to avoid criminal charges, both for himself and his kids.

Somehow I'm not too terribly surprised that you don't have a problem with this.

Ha.

HA.

HAAAAhahahahahahahaha [continued maniacle laughter]

[cough choke snort wipes tears from eyes]

You have just described pretty much every career politician in recent history. The same people that get elected over and over and over.

But somehow, the outrage only comes out now. Repressed for many many years but now it is UNLEASHED because we have Trump, the man who promised to blow up the system and has done so with rockets red glare.

I want all of you to remember that outrage in 2020 when you’re getting ready to pull that lever for “encumbent” in all your elected positions. Then it’s YOUR chance to play the exciting new game show........


HYPOCRITE OR NOT!

Aaaaaaand who’s our next contestant!?!?

[drum rollllllllllllllll]

[crash]

[SPOTLIGHT]

Confirmed cynical sarcastic bastard since 2003

[normiss 620]

President Obama was none of that.
Not in any way.

[ryoder 1,380]

normiss

President Obama was none of that.
Not in any way.

Nor was Jimmy Carter.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Phil1111 908]

ryoder

***President Obama was none of that.
Not in any way.

Nor was Jimmy Carter.

Agree on the aforementioned. Nor G.W. Bush, nor McCain

[Iago 8]

Phil1111

******President Obama was none of that.
Not in any way.

Nor was Jimmy Carter.

Agree on the aforementioned. Nor G.W. Bush, nor McCain

Wheehehehehellllll I did say ‘pretty much,’ didn’t I?

And the electorate covers a much wider gambit than just the President.

Tell ya what, if all you Californians vote that corrupt nutbag wombat Pelosi out of office THEN you can start chucking stones at other people.

Confirmed cynical sarcastic bastard since 2003

[Iago 8]

Oh, and special note how nobody jumped to put the Clinton Crime Family in with the ‘oh they weren’t like that’ crowd. Plenty of you were lined up and ready to VOTE for them, though.

How about Beeeeeernie? The man who preaches the values and benefits of the Socialist/Marxist agenda, makes millions of dollars a year doing so, and owns multiple vacation and lake properties? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Confirmed cynical sarcastic bastard since 2003

[kallend 1,620]

Iago

Oh, and special note how nobody jumped to put the Clinton Crime Family in with the ‘oh they weren’t like that’ crowd. Plenty of you were lined up and ready to VOTE for them, though.

How about Beeeeeernie? The man who preaches the values and benefits of the Socialist/Marxist agenda, makes millions of dollars a year doing so, and owns five vacation and lake properties? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

The GOP spent over $100 MILLION of taxpayer money trying to pin something, anything, on the Clintons, and all they got for it was a stained blue dress.

I doubt any other family in history has been so thoroughly investigated with so little to show for it.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Iago 8]

kallend

***Oh, and special note how nobody jumped to put the Clinton Crime Family in with the ‘oh they weren’t like that’ crowd. Plenty of you were lined up and ready to VOTE for them, though.

How about Beeeeeernie? The man who preaches the values and benefits of the Socialist/Marxist agenda, makes millions of dollars a year doing so, and owns five vacation and lake properties? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

The GOP spent over $100 MILLION of taxpayer money trying to pin something, anything, on the Clintons, and all they got for it was a stained blue dress.

I doubt any other family in history has been so thoroughly investigated with so little to show for it.

Yeah, because anyone who actually knew anything ended up dead.

Confirmed cynical sarcastic bastard since 2003

[Iago 8]

kallend

***Oh, and special note how nobody jumped to put the Clinton Crime Family in with the ‘oh they weren’t like that’ crowd. Plenty of you were lined up and ready to VOTE for them, though.

How about Beeeeeernie? The man who preaches the values and benefits of the Socialist/Marxist agenda, makes millions of dollars a year doing so, and owns five vacation and lake properties? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

The GOP spent over $100 MILLION of taxpayer money trying to pin something, anything, on the Clintons, and all they got for it was a stained blue dress.

I doubt any other family in history has been so thoroughly investigated with so little to show for it.

The biggest problem is you guys are always going about this the wrong way.

CTHULHU 2020
Why pick the the lesser of two evils?
The true American nightmare never dies, only dreams.

Confirmed cynical sarcastic bastard since 2003

[billvon 2,380]

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Oh but it is when managed properly and you refuse to give up just because of a setback. He kept going and now he is the POTUS.

In that case, Obama is ten times the man Trump is.

[billvon 2,380]

>Yeah, because anyone who actually knew anything ended up dead.

Sorry to see you join the Qanon bunch. You seemed smarter than that.

[winsor 185]

billvon

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Oh but it is when managed properly and you refuse to give up just because of a setback. He kept going and now he is the POTUS.

In that case, Obama is ten times the man Trump is.

10 x 0 = 0

[billvon 2,380]

>10 x 0 = 0

But 10/0 = a lot.

[jakee 1,254]

Iago

You have just described pretty much every career politician in recent history. The same people that get elected over and over and over.

That’s nonsense. The ultimate expression of the logical fallacy that is ‘both-siderism’. All other politicians are not the same as Trump. Career politicians are not all criminals.

Pretending they are is just an excuse not to have to think.

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But somehow, the outrage only comes out now. Repressed for many many years but now it is UNLEASHED because we have Trump, the man who promised to blow up the system and has done so with rockets red glare.

In what way has Trunp blown up the system?

Apart from the fact that he simply ignores all the ethical rules regarding conflicts of interest and profiting from the office that other Presidents have followed, which part of the system has he changed?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[RonD1120 58]

GeorgiaDon

*********He repeatedly fucked other people out of their money, that's not "kept going".

We've been through this before, and it turns out Ron fully supports criminal or con-man behaviour as long as the perpetrator is 'winning'.

I believe the concept you are searching for is pragmatism.One could argue that pimps, drug dealers, and hit men are "pragmatic". They all provide a service that is in demand, for a price. No doubt you find them admirable as well.

Don

No, not admirable but real, perpetual and, contain the power of Satan. And that enemy can only be defeated by Jesus the Christ. Without Christ, you have to contend with them.

Do you fight or contend?

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RonD1120 58]

wmw999

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I believe the concept you are searching for is pragmatism

When the Communists said that (the end justifies the means) it was evil.

Do we trust the process, or the end? If the end is what’s important, who decides? It’s usually the guy with the most money and power. If we stick with the process, then everyone has a chance to influence it.

Wendy P.

Good word

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RonD1120 58]

wolfriverjoe

*********He repeatedly fucked other people out of their money, that's not "kept going".

We've been through this before, and it turns out Ron fully supports criminal or con-man behaviour as long as the perpetrator is 'winning'.

I believe the concept you are searching for is pragmatism.

So someone who lies, cheats and steals is ok in your book.

He also bribes public officials to avoid criminal charges, both for himself and his kids.

Somehow I'm not too terribly surprised that you don't have a problem with this.

I do not have the problem. You have the problem of interpreting what I write. And that I will own. I lack the time to write complete essays. I rely on the reader's level of understanding and I am frequently disappointed. It's on me not you.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.