Poor management not climate change partly responsible for CA fires

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California's Deadliest Fires Could Have Been Mitigated By Prevention

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During this summer’s fires, outgoing California Governor Jerry Brown blamed the record-breaking fires on climate change. In a press conference he warned that the level of climate change-induced forest fires predicted in 20 to 30 years were “now occurring in real time.”

While the frequency of fire has declined, the area burnt and the cost to fight wildfires have increased. Understanding why this is the case is the critical component in crafting a public policy solution to address the issue of deadly forest fires.

Once again California is the victim of it's politicians.

Please don't dent the planet.

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[jakee 1,254]

airdvr

Once again California is the victim of it's politicians.

"Sparks from damaged or malfunctioning power lines operated by PG&E, a state-regulated electric utility, may have been to blame for the Camp Fire’s ignition amidst rugged federally-managed lands to the east of Paradise."

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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jakee

***Once again California is the victim of it's politicians.

"Sparks from damaged or malfunctioning power lines operated by PG&E, a state-regulated electric utility, may have been to blame for the Camp Fire’s ignition amidst rugged federally-managed lands to the east of Paradise."

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The federal government controls 46 percent of California’s land, much of it managed by the U.S. Forest Service. In the three decades before 1990, foresters harvested 10-12 billion board feet of timber from national forests every year. By 2013, restrictive environmental policies cut that to 2.5 billion.

I have to wonder where those policies originated.

Please don't dent the planet.

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[billvon 2,380]

>I have to wonder where those policies originated.

Perhaps there is a clue in the fact that it started on federally managed land.

But in any case, we now know definitely what caused the fire. It was federal land managers not raking the forests like they do in Finland. So once they get on the ball and start spending "a lot of time on raking and cleaning and doing things" then the problem will go away.

[Phil1111 908]

airdvr

California's Deadliest Fires Could Have Been Mitigated By Prevention

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During this summer’s fires, outgoing California Governor Jerry Brown blamed the record-breaking fires on climate change. In a press conference he warned that the level of climate change-induced forest fires predicted in 20 to 30 years were “now occurring in real time.”

While the frequency of fire has declined, the area burnt and the cost to fight wildfires have increased. Understanding why this is the case is the critical component in crafting a public policy solution to address the issue of deadly forest fires.

Once again California is the victim of it's politicians.

BLM headquartered right down the street from that genius with the forest management degree from Wharton.

A Billion-Dollar Fortune From Timber and Fire
https://www.forbes.com/feature/archie-emmerson-timber-forest-fires-logging/#10a8edb164f9

[ryoder 1,381]

A Finn's response to the Orange Fool:
https://twitter.com/pyryluminen/status/1064159712919334917/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1064159712919334917&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fonpolitics%2F2018%2F11%2F19%2Ftrump-finland-forest-raking%2F2054797002%2F

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I have great respect for someone who will report or post the truth.

Especially on this site.

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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rushmc

I have great respect for someone who will report or post the truth.

Especially on this site.

I can’t breathe!

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billvon

So once they get on the ball and start spending "a lot of time on raking and cleaning and doing things" then the problem will go away.

Americans won't do that work. We need more immigrants (perhaps seasonal).

[DanG 1]

Maybe we can get immigrants from Finland to do it. They might be less offensive to Trump.

- Dan G

[jakee 1,254]

DanG

Maybe we can get immigrants from Finland to do it. They might be less offensive to Trump.

The more you think about it, the more amazing the idea becomes that Trump thought Finland has fewer forest fires because they clear their forests better.

Is it the fact that even southern Finland is 1500 miles further north than Sacramento that makes it so good? Is it that the average annual temperature of the central region is 20C colder? Is it that much of Finland's forests are under snow for 7 months of the year while much of California's wildfire areas have more summer sunshine hours than almost anywhere else in the world? Maybe it's that most of the space in Finland that isn't forest is either lake or bog instead of arid grassland, or maybe the idea that a country of 5.5M people could ever effectively manage fire suppression over 100,000sq miles of forest in the first place.

Put it all together and it might just be my favourite thing he's ever said.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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jakee

***Maybe we can get immigrants from Finland to do it. They might be less offensive to Trump.

The more you think about it, the more amazing the idea becomes that Trump thought Finland has fewer forest fires because they clear their forests better.

Is it the fact that even southern Finland is 1500 miles further north than Sacramento that makes it so good? Is it that the average annual temperature of the central region is 20C colder? Is it that much of Finland's forests are under snow for 7 months of the year while much of California's wildfire areas have more summer sunshine hours than almost anywhere else in the world? Maybe it's that most of the space in Finland that isn't forest is either lake or bog instead of arid grassland, or maybe the idea that a country of 5.5M people could ever effectively manage fire suppression over 100,000sq miles of forest in the first place.

Put it all together and it might just be my favourite thing he's ever said.

Just shows how incredibly stupid the man is. Never mind those who support him.

[DanG 1]

FACT: a forest fire has never destroyed a structure on the entire CONTINENT of Antarctica. Who's not in charge of Antartica? DEMOCRATS!

Case closed.

- Dan G

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